#madoc

[marrr444]

Towards the end of The Cruel Prince, Jude catches her mother's reflection at the Lake of Masks. But her mother isn't alone, she is with Madoc. They don't recognize Jude, of course, because how could they? But they do look at her through time and are delighted that she is a human. She is but a random face to them, after all.

But do you think Madoc ever looks at either Taryn or Jude all grown up and this same memory comes unbidden in his mind? A memory of a time when he was truly happy, with the love of his life?

Do you think he ever realizes that it was one of his wife's daughters, one of his daughters, that he had looked at?

Do you think he recognizes that face, that expression, as Jude's, even though he had never been able to tell the twins apart before?

Do you think he realized when he first saw them as children, as seven year olds in shock?

Do you think he did and he realized that this would come to be because he would take them with him and raise them as his own? It's doubtful he was thinking of anything other than the now dead woman at his feet but plausible.

Do you think their own mother ever realized while in the mortal world, going over her happy memories of faerie that at some point, somehow, her kid would end up in the place she'd fled.

Do you think it scared her? To think her kid would end up making the very same mistakes she did?

[the-badger-mole]

You really think Madoc loved Jude and Taryn? They didn't seem to.

The girls were wary of Madoc, and for good reason. I think Jude knows that Madoc loves them, but she also doesn't think that his love would protect them if he decided they were in the way. As for Taryn...I don't know man...maybe? She probably has a similar understanding of Madoc. It's not as if he makes a great big secret of caring for them. Even Oriana points out how he dotes on the girls. Jude loves him, and I don't think she would have gotten to that point if he didn't show her love, too. We don't hear Taryn say it, but it's not going too far out on a limb to say she loves Madoc, too.

The thing is they thought Madoc's patience with them had an extremely short limit, but I don't think that's true. Vivi outright disrespects him to his face and does whatever she feels like, and I know Jude thinks its because she's the only one of them who is related to Madoc by blood, but she's not great at reading people. Look all the things she got away with, after all. Okay, yeah, Madoc ended up stabbing her, but you also have to remember he's a Fae with a finely honed instinct for battle. Him treating her as an equal on the battle field was a show of high respect, and doesn't necessarily mean he didn't love her. Later he goes on to try to give her legitimate guidance for acting as the sole ruler of Elfhame. He also never intended for Jude to be bound to the Jorel and Nore, and if they had succeeded with their scheme, I think he would have sworn violent and bloody vengeance on them. Madoc is for all intents and purposes, an actual, natural born, boogieman-story monster. Of course his version of love is going to look crazy.

Madoc loved the girls, but his mistake was not understanding their vulnerability. If he had acknowledged the fact that the twins, in particular, were in danger despite him claiming them as his own, and acted accordingly, they probably would have made much different choices. He didn't protect them as well as he should have, but that was more an issue of him not recognizing the subtler dangers the girls were facing than him not caring. That's why I will never hear anyone who says that Oriana didn't care about the girls. She may not have loved them like a mother, but that doesn't mean she didn't love them in her own way. I will die on the hill that she did her best to look out for them, although it's clear her authority over them was very limited.

[masasinsanity]

Eva and madoc were the real beauty and the beast actually

[limoni-owo]

I think Dain helped Eva and Justin escape. And Oraina knew and thats why she married Madoc. Because why would you go marry the strongest ally of Dain to keep a secret from him?

[madockisser]

Madoc being a big gardener in the mortal world meanwhile oriana loves to be surrounded by greenery and plants oh these soulmates

and what if he does it to keep her comfortable and more likely to stick around

if holly doesn’t give them a happy ending i may riot

[jessie-reads-books]

Fuuuuuuuuck, this almost makes me wanna cry. I can’t even dislike Madoc. I love Madoc 😭💔

[hunt-the-hare]

@d1rtyair said: hold me down and breed me. ( Carolina/madoc) fill me up !!

                       Clothes  had  already  been  discarded,  strewn  across  that  ugly,  orange  shag  carpet.  Everyone  else  had  it,  it  seemed  only  fitting  he  did  too.  But  it's  no  matter,  not  when  Carolina  had  been  beneath  him.  God,  the  way  she's  spread  out,  calloused  hand  gripping  just  right  behind  her  knee,  pressing  it  towards  her  chest.  The  grin  he  wore  on  his  lips  was  something  stupid,  even  he  can  admit.

                       "  Baby...  "  He  says,  hips  gently  rolling  into  her.  He  teases,  cock  brushing  that  sensitive  spot  he  knows  oh  so  well  at  this  point.  "  You  ain't  gettin'  anything  if  you  don't  ask  properly.  "  He  slows  his  thrusts.  If  anyone  is  making  demands  here,  it's  Madoc.

                       "  Use  your  nice  words-  "  There's  a  sudden  sharp  thrust  of  hips.  "  Then  maybe  I'll  think  about  it,  sweetheart.  "

[limoni-owo]

Okay okay okay

So as Jude assumes Madoc will use Oak to get the crown because he wants more power and more bloodshed. While i think thats true i think there mighve been more to the picture as we never learn his plan.

First I think of Oriana’s reasoning for getting married to Madoc. Which was to protect Oak, specifically for Dain to never know and for Oak to never be involved with the crown politics.

I was thinking how Oriana has some restraint not to murder Madoc after he does what she SPECIFICALLY married him NOT to do. But then he did, in a very fea way, keep his promise.

It was always a risk for Oak to be discovered as Dain’s son. And it would have only gotten worse the older he got and the more like Dain he looked. The first person Madoc murders is Dain. So he’ll never be a danger to Oak. And the plan was to get the blood crown on his head which would guarantee protection from the people sworn to it.

The question is how was he going to get the crown on Oaks head. Theres some extra scenes and one is an au where Balekin becomes king and as Jude says Madoc couldn’t have predicted that every sibling wouldve refused to crown him ( except the one who got killed by some who wasnt on his orders).

I think the plan was for Balekin to be crowned high king. I think Madoc wouldve let Balekin be king for a long while. Long enough for him to turn his subjects against him. Balekin wouldve been a horrible king and Madoc knows it. The high court would be in disarray, the folk would hate him. I think thats where Madoc woulve swooped in as a savior. With the power of the army and a greenbriar heir he woulve forced Balekin to give the crown to Oak and ruled through him with the support of the people grateful to be rid of Balekin and have the joy of bloodshed to restabilize the courts and his rule.

( even tho Balekin would have the blood crown it doesnt protect him entirely form harm. As he poisons Cardan while he is crowed. I think he would give it away to save his own life. I dunno if this is because Balekin is royal and didn’t technically swear to the blood crown)