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Some tender WillMane/Harrattraction, I wanted to re-create that LegoshiHal pose with them the second I first saw it!

First two tiny sketches have a third stage but it's too spicy for Tumblr and also turned out terrible lol

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Will Harris and Mane Attraction in real life

What makes Will being called small and him calling himself medium is that he is the largest breed of a domesticated goat. Boer bucks (males) commonly weigh between 200–340 pounds (90–155 kg), some even 400 pounds (182 kg). They are the premier meat breed due to their rapid growth, muscular build, and high-quality carcass. Known for their white bodies, red/brown heads, long pendulous ears, and short, sturdy legs. They are highly adaptable to various climates and are efficient browsers. Will is on the smaller side and is adaptable.

Andalusian horses date to the Middle Ages. They were bred by Carthusian monks. They were originally used as war horses, and it wasn't until 1962 that they were exported from Spain to other countries. Today, Andalusian horses excel in multiple disciplines and are beloved for their beauty, intelligence, and temperament.

Intelligent & Willing: Quick to learn and eager to please, making them excellent for dressage and liberty work. Docile yet Spirited: They are generally quiet and gentle, but possess a lively, energetic "fire" when asked to work. Sensitive & Responsive: Highly tuned to the rider's aids, requiring soft handling. Loyal & Sociable: Known to form strong bonds with owners and get along well with other horses. Courageous: Possess a brave, confident nature, historically used as war horses.

Those are not the same breads but imagine this picture as them.

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they should just kiss

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willmane nation we could've had it allllll

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The Thorns members relationships

In this post, I would like to discuss the members of the Thorns and their relationships with one another.

Let's set aside the obvious. Jett doesn't like her teammates. From her conversation with Flo, I gathered that due to her play-style and the fact that the Thorns never won the claw, teammates are constantly being swapped out (with the exception of Jett) to create a team that finally breaks the curse and wins. It's no wonder they couldn't win. Not only because Jett was playing alone, but also because the members swapped so often that they didn't have the opportunity to learn to play together as a team. This is my interpretation, when she looks at the team having fun without her, she looks like she wants to join them but thinks it's too late because she's burned all the bridges. You've probably seen the movie, so you know their relationship has healed.

Now about Olivia. She's very interesting. Archie's daughters call her Auntie Olivia, at least in the Polish dub. I know that in many cultures, any older woman is addressed as "auntie," and this film has a lot to do with Black American culture. But I prefer to believe it suggests a deeper connection. Jett keeps to herself at this point in the story, and the girls' mother is nowhere to be seen, presumably dead, so Olivia is the only female figure in their lives. I doubt Olivia took the role of their mom, cooking, cleaning, and doing important things like going to the doctor or daycare/school. She seems too young and immature for that. She seems like the kind of person who would happily entertain Archie's daughters, share their love of girly things like fashion, and keep an eye on them while Archie cooks, cleans, or just relaxes. I assume (based on my inferences from the film and extended sources) that she and Lenny joined the team around the same time. They seem to be close and have a lot in common. They pay a lot of attention to their respective devices (They seem almost addicted to them.) They have long necks. (They might bond over similar experiences. Neck pains, getting them caught on something, etc.) They are the closest to Will in terms of age(Or at least acting his age, more in the post about their ages.) and personalities, chill and friendly, but with a bit of attitude and sass. I really like how she brings Lenny down to earth and makes him come out of his shell. In the YouTube interview, she makes him pay attention, and brings up him being a rapper to Will. There are many possibilities. Maybe Lenny is famous, but Will simply doesn't know it, which I find unlikely. Considering Olivia spends so much time on social media, I think the most likely scenario is that she simply found one of his music videos or something about his rapping career, and that's how she and the rest of the Thorns found out. I like to think she's his biggest supporter in his career, she can help him with his social media and be his spokesperson because he's so humble and shy and his "problem" is communicating with people. I'm not hiding my bias here, I ship it. But I like my ships with potential and some logic. Olivia, being the social butterfly ostrich she is, could easily unite members who don't have much in common, for example, by getting Archie and Lenny to spend time with her at the same time.

Besides Jett, Will has the most interactions with Modo, which mostly boil down to Will being scared or weirded out by Modo, Olivia, who I just discussed, and Lenny. Their first interaction takes place on a plane. Will wants to sit across from him, but the seat is designated for his legs. Later, when they finally play together, Will gives him a high-five (or rather, a high-three), which completely surprises him. Afterward, the entire team (except Jett) bonds and creates a diss track. It's very sweet and simple. My question is: does Lenny really need that seat for his legs, or did he say that to get rid of Will? I think he really needs it. He's huge and needs extra space even in that luxurious plane. I get cramps just from sitting on a train for 2 hours, and I'm not a giraffe. If he didn't want to spend time with Will, he could just put on his headphones, close his eyes, and relax. He could have put it in a nicer way. Despite my love for Lenny, he's no saint, I think he looked down on (wink, wink) Will for being small. But after witnessing with his own eyes that Will can play, he changed his attitude. However, in my opinion, that little high-three really resonated with Lenny. Remember, he was bounced around from team to team like a whore ball, so it's important for him to have a teammate who genuinely wants to be his friend. Archie has a moment when he protects Will as if he's his child. It's played for laughs. You can interpret it as Archie becoming more fatherly towards Will. Another important character is Dennis. Will is the only one who initially listens to him. Both are dismissed by the team, but as the film progresses, this changes.

Archie becomes protective of his team, including Jett.

Jett isn't mean to her team anymore.

Last and unfortunately least is Modo. I'm sorry. I like him. Aside from the running joke about him being weird and being part of a collective that dislikes Will, then likes him, is disliked by Jett, then is liked by Jett he has nothing. You might say that this whole post is me grasping at straws, creating whole relationships from dialogue and interactions that could've landed to any of these characters (Anybody could've mentioned that Lenny is a rapper.) or jokes, but in the case of Modo, there's nothing for me to grasp. There's potential for an interesting dynamic, with him owning the Thorns now, but we have to wait for a sequel or a show.

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How old are the Thorns' players?

A big part of the movie revolves around Jett's age and that she's past her prime and getting too old to play.

I was wondering how old the other characters are, especially the other players, because it would be really stupid and hypocritical how others make fun of how old Jett is when the other players are not much younger than her.

I already did a bit of theorizing how old the characters are. I know there is a novel that apparently states that Will is at least 20 but there are clear differences between the movie and the book. Like how in the same novel Will is a feet smaller than in a movie. However, it doesn't mean it's completely useless for our discussion.

In the novel Jett played for 20 years not 15 like in the movie, so we can assume a 5 year difference between a novel and a movie.

It basically makes my theory about Will being around 16 correct. Yuppy!

If we assume Jett joined the team as early as possible, at 16 (like Will) or 18 (adult), we add 15 years to that, meaning Jett is 31-33 years old.

Lenny is next, because his story is very interesting. I don't know if I remember correctly, or if the translator got it wrong, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Lenny said he played for 10 teams in 10 seasons.

I'm no basketball expert. I just like the movie and know that the ball has to go in the basket (and that points vary depending on how far you shoot it). I tried doing some research, one Google search, I'm still confused. To me, 10 basketball seasons translates to 10 years. Let's do the same thing we did for Jett. He started playing professionally as soon as he could. That would make him 26 - 28 years old. As I suspected, not much younger than Jett.

Olivia is very new to the team. She just got there a year ago. By applying the same rules, she should be 17 - 19 years old.

Archie is surprisingly hard to pinpoint. He has young daughters, but it's hard to guess their age. In movies, it's common for child characters (or really all characters) to act more mature or immature, depending on the tone of the story. 3–4 Years: Children communicate in full, often complex sentences, and can hold a conversation. Let's round it up to 5. Thanks to Frank, we know that animal pregnancy in this world is the same as in real life. The pregnancy of the Indian rhinoceros lasts about 14–15 months. Assuming in good faith that Archie did not have children while he was a minor that would make him around 26 - 30/32 years old.

Modo is next and I have nothing to say. He could be 17 or 30/32 for all we know about him form the movie alone. But the fact that it is a reptile raises an interesting question. How long is a life spam for those animals? If it were natural, Frank would have died in about 3 years. It could be that everyone lives as long as the average person, that only reptiles can live longer.

The only other character I can guess the age of is Mane Attraction. He won 2 times in a row. That makes him 18 - 20 years old. Oh no, my ship has a problematic age gap. I have to write it now that Mane Attraction and Will start dating when Will is 18. Or go with a novel. Or just don't care because those aren't real people and don't act like their ages anyway.

Final Thoughts:

I bet some people are disappointed that Olivia is so young. Older people can be addicted to their phones too!

But those same people will be happy that Archie has children while Jett doesn't, even though she's older than him.

Many might be surprised by the small age difference between Will and Mane Attraction. This explains Mane's immature attitude. He's a teen star, his ego growing, until Will showed up.

I think the reason everyone mocks Jett, even though many of the players are around her age or probably older, is because of the high expectations. Nobody expects anything from Lenny or Archie. And even though many of the players are categorically inferior and older than her, at least their teams won the Claw. It just goes to show that even with the best player or players, if the team doesn't work together, it doesn't matter.

I find it funny how old Lenny is. His friendship with Will and Olivia, despite the age difference. Going back to their interview, I can picture his mother asking him ''When will you get married?'' and ''I want some grandchildren before I die." Especially if one of his younger teammates was already married and has kids.

Also, as a Lenny x Olivia shipper, I can imagine Lenny bringing Olivia as his fake girlfriend. Or the media and their parents, going absolutely crazy over their age gap, but not them being different species. (More on that in another post.)