#map discourse tw

[invisibleoctopus]

if saying that pedophiles deserve therapy and support instead of the death penalty makes me a "pedo apologist" then im a pedo apologist

and this is coming from someone who had a pedophile teacher in middle school and is traumatized from the experience bc i kinda had a weird fucked up crush on him???

so dont try to pull the "but what about the children!!!!" card with me if you decide to discourse on this post because i WAS the children.

[whogivesa-ship]

Hey antis, you want to be considerate of survivors? How about you stop calling people MAPs* over fictional ships.

I’ve seen survivors in the pro shipping community say over and over again how they get triggered when they’re accused of being MAPs or MAP discourse is randomly brought up in conversations about fiction. Even within our own servers, any discourse involving the term MAP is confined to specific channels because a lot of people want to avoid it. So bringing it up in the middle of talking about fictional ships is pretty inconsiderate to say the least.

The pro shipping community and the MAP community are entirely separate.

Yes, some people who identify as MAPs may hold pro shipping views. They may also be members of a political party and have an opinion about pineapple on pizza. That’s about as relevant as their opinion on shipping discourse. Just because a MAP likes pineapple on pizza doesn’t mean all people who like that particular topping are MAPs.

Not all pro shippers support the MAP community.

I’ve been in the pro shipping community for more than a year (not counting the recent hiatus) and I’ve seen a wide range of views on the MAP community. I’ve only met 1 pro shipper who wholeheartedly supports it. Far more pro shippers are uncomfortable with it, triggered by it, or downright loathe it. Pro ship does not equal pro MAP.

It’s just not necessary.

If you want to argue about fiction, that’s fine. If you want to argue about MAPs, that’s fine. But bringing up MAPs in an entirely unrelated conversation is like putting a dead bug in someone’s sandwich. It’s just rude and uncalled for and likely to trigger a panic attack.

*MAP means Minor Attracted Person. It’s a term used in psychology to describe pedophiles and other chronophiles attracted to minors. MAP discourse is commonly centered around noMAPs, no-contact MAPs who have made a decision not to harm minors and formed an online community mostly for the purpose of supporting each other. 

[who-gives-a-ship]

Hi so I get that anti-NOMAPs are bad b/c it contributes to a systemic abuse and oppression of a group that doesn’t really have control over it, but on the other hand it’s a it really wrong to not want to be involved with people who make you uncomfortable? Like I dislike hanging out with men not b/c they’ve done anything wrong personally but they as a whole make me uncomfortable? I’m new to this topic and these are my first thoughts and I wanted to hear from u and see if u could tell me yours.

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being uncomfortable. You don’t have to wanna hang out with them. The stuff I really object to is the graphic threats of violence and doxxing that comes from antis. Of course you should worry about your personal safety above anything else. Social stigma is a big problem for nomaps, but that’s not why I’m against antis. I’m against antis because they’re actively trying to hurt people.

Fun fact: A group of frogs is called an army.

[kokichis-dead-dove-club]

what so do you have against non offending pedophiles

what part of "don't involve me in map discourse" isn't fucking clear????? leave me the fuck alone you cunt

[kokichis-dead-dove-club]

ayy someone said you're pro-MAP and uuh,, That isn't true right? Please dude? I'm sending this non-anon so you can answer private if you need to (because not sending asks about MAP discourse) but i really need to know, You aren't pro-MAP right??

oh FUCK NO im not! i am 100% anti-MAP, that i can assure you of.

[kokichis-dead-dove-club]

(different anon) d*ku’s a fuckin **what**

a fucking nomap

(i dont think ur asking for a definition but just in case: nomap stands for “non offending minor attracted person” which. i dont want to get deep into the subject on here but it’s something i absolutely do not support)

[kokichis-dead-dove-club]

so anyway, i don’t understand how this could possibly be a wrong thing to say, but:

DO NOT FUCKING INVOLVE ME IN MAP DISCOURSE. DO NOT RANDOMLY BRING UP MAP DISCOURSE TO ANYONE. DONT FUCKING DO IT.

[kokichis-dead-dove-club]

Ofc feel free to not answer this, but that blog is run by an altar of Deku’s. That probably doesn’t make things any better though

i wasn’t aware deku was part of a system, and i apologize for that; i don’t want to tag him just in case he doesnt want to be involved in any of this, but if he sees this: i’m sorry, deku. i shouldn’t have taken anons at face value without looking further into them.