#marcel lefebvre

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"Os verdadeiros amigos do povo não são revolucionários, nem inovadores, mas tradicionalistas."

–S.Pio X - Carta Encíclica Notre charge Apostolique

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When someone says to me, 'You are going to cause a schism,' I answer that it is not I who am causing a schism; I am remaining in a completely traditional line. So I remain united to the Church of two thousand years, and I am doing nothing other than what has been done for two thousand years, than what I was congratulated for doing, for the same thing, I am condemned! It is as if I am expelled, I am almost excommunicated; finally I am suspended, whereas I am doing exactly the same thing as I did for thirty years of my life, during which time I was given every possible and imaginable honor.

Mgr. Abp. Marcel Lefebvre, August 3, 1976 A. D.

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Tbh, I agree with a lot of tradcats criticism of the Church but I just can't get behind them in their want to abolish the Novus Ordo Mass and their sympathy and sometimes support of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. If you don't think that the Pope has an authority to excommunicate anyone then you might as well be a protestant.

And if you'd rather go to an SSPX Latin Mass because it's more aesthetically beautiful than a reverently done Novus Ordo Mass with no liturgical abuse, I would say that you're not getting the fullness of God's grace in their sacraments because of the society's awkward position in the Church.

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“The Novus Ordo Missae, even when said with piety and respect for the liturgical rules… is impregnated with the spirit of Protestantism. It bears within it a poison harmful to the faith.”

- Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Open Letter to Confused Catholics, p.29.

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My Journey out of the Lefebvre Schism

If you're a Catholic who's faithful to the Church's teaching Magisterium, you've probably met up with followers of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvr

Archbishop Lefebvre insisted that his irregular consecration of bishops without Rome's permission was carried out in a state of necessity. However, the Holy See foresaw the situation in which the archbishop found himself before he consecrated the bishops, yet still denied him permission to proceed with such an action. As Cardinal Gantin, on behalf of the Holy See, wrote in a letter to Lefebvre dated June 17, 1988: "Since . . . you stated that you intended to ordain four priests to the episcopate without having obtained the mandate of the Supreme Pontiff as required by canon 1013 of the Code of Canon Law, I myself convey to you this public canonical warning, confirming that if you should carry out your intention as stated above, you yourself and also the bishops ordained by you shall incur ipso facto [by that very fact] excommunication latae sententiae[imposed automatically] reserved to the Apostolic See in accordance with canon 1382."

A mere discipline of the Faith, is a law, a custom or practice originating from the Church as a means of safeguarding the good order of the Church. To establish ecclesiastical discipline, the Church must ask herself: What is the most practical way of protecting the doctrine of the Church here and now?

In essence, the Holy See did not agree with Lefebvre's analysis of the situation in the Catholic Church, namely that a sufficient emergency existed to warrant the consecration of bishops without Rome's approval. This is an important point in resolving the dispute between Archbishop Lefebvre and Pope John Paul II, for where there exists a difference in interpreting the application of canon law, canon 16 states clearly: "Laws are authentically interpreted by the legislator and by that person to whom the legislator entrusts the power of authentic interpretation."

In Lefebvre's situation, he knew in advance that his interpretation of canon law in this case was not acceptable to the Roman Pontiff, who is the highest legislator. So even though Lefebvre disagreed with the Roman Pontiff's interpretation of canon law, it nevertheless remained up to Pope John Paul II to interpret that law authoritatively. Therefore, because the idea of a state of necessity in Lefebvre's circumstances was rejected by Pope John Paul II, I came to realize that I could not legitimately invoke the state of necessity canons in defense of Lefebvre's consecration of bishops without Rome's permission.

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Just as Our Lord Jesus Christ chose the fruit of the vine and wheat for His Eucharist, and these elements are crushed in order to become the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ--for it is bread and wine that Our Lord chose as the matter of the Eucharist--so also the olive is crushed to become the sacred chrism used in Holy Orders. Why choose these different fruits, which must be crushed? Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself said: 'I have trodden the winepress alone' (Is. 63:3), yet in some way it was He Himself who was the winepress. It was He who was going to suffer and be crushed, and who was going to shed all His Blood for the redemption of our sins. He wanted therefore to choose for the Sacraments creatures that would also be crushed like Him in order to produce the holy oil, the bread or the wine which would become the instruments of our sanctification. If Jesus wanted to choose the elements and to crush them, it is because we also must become victims with Him; we also must be crushed by penance, trials, and sacrifice, in order to unite ourselves more with Him. For it is to unite ourselves with Him that we eat His Body and drink His Blood and receive the holy chrism.

Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Homily, Écône, April 16th, 1981 A. D.