#marvel plot holes

[sssiriusly]

End Game is so fucking confusing for some reason. Like and the TVA is kinda stupid or just hates Loki.

Like, Avengers time traveler and came back but also did Thanos, but Thanos died in End Game but that is not the Thanos that killed Loki or Asgard, that's a Thanos way before GOTG.

So like, the whole plot of the movies was Thanos but if Thanos left he opened another timeline because Thanos wasn't supposed to be there he was supposed to die by the avengers and not to see.

Like... You get what I'm saying, where was the TVA when this happened. Bitches literally opened a new timeline when Thanos came to fight them in 2024.

Because if Thanos died before Infinity War, that means he never killed Vision, he never killed Loki and destroyed Asgard, that means WandaVision never existed in that other reality because the pasita never got the infinity stones one by one. That also means the blip never happened, which means Tony never discovered time travel, which means Steve never went back with Peggy, The Falcon And The Winter Soldier never happened because man never time traveled

But then again, when it comes to Marvel and plot holes I've just learned to ignore them.

[captainwaffles]

From what I can tell Civil war took place in April/March of 2016. Homecoming takes place two months later making it around June, Peter should be done with school, homecoming happens in the fall. The decathlon sign we first see says October 13-15

I just, there’s a lot of time plot holes

[perfectlywisedelusions]

Why Steve Roger’s End In Endgame Was Wrong

At the end of Avengers: Endgame, we find out that Steve chose to stay in the past with Peggy. While a sweet sentiment, this ending has one massive issue. In The Winter Soldier, we find out that Peggy married another soldier and had a daughter. When Steve went into the past and stayed with Peggy, this girl was never born. We don’t know if Steve and Peggy had any children, and even if they did, it would have been a different genetic combination. Peggy’s daughter does not exist, and it’s on Steve. He knew about Peggy’s daughter and knew that if he went back, there was a child that wouldn’t exist in an alternate reality. This becomes even more of a plot hole when we take into consideration that Steve’s mission was to avoid changing the timelines in other realities. If Peggy’s daughter influenced the timeline or if she had children and they influenced the timeline in any way, then an alternate timeline would be created. One was created upon the Infinity Stones leaving the timeline, as even though they were replaced, there was a divergence. Even if there wasn’t an alternate timeline created, it wasn’t Steve Rogers who ended up with Peggy all along. When he visits her in a nursing home, she clearly does not recognize him as her husband. She says that he “came back,” and we see a picture of another man. It is obvious she married someone besides Steve. His going back might have created an alternate timeline through his actions, and could also be responsible for the lack of existence any number of Peggy Carter’s descendants. 

[noonemakesitoutoflifealiveblr]

In Thor Ragnorok, Thor and Loki are forced to cause Ragnorok and completely destroy Asgard in order to protect their people who are all on one ship. Infinity War opens on the asgardian ship with everyone dead or dying. We all know what happens the Hulk attacks Thanos and loses; Himdall uses dark magic to summon the Bifrost and sends the Hulk to Earth and then gets stabbed through The heart by Thanos for it; Loki tries one last time to kill Thanos but is killed; Thanos adds the Space Stone to his guantlet, uses the power Stone to destroy the asgardian ship, and then teleports away. When the Gardians arrive to help Thor is the only one they see alive and if anyone else was alive Thor would have brought them to the ship the moment he woke up, which he doesn't. That tells us that all of the Asgardians with the exception of Thor are dead. If that isn't enough evidence of their death, when Thor is talking to the Dwarf that will make his axe he tells the Dwarf that Asgard is gone and Thor sees Asgard as a people not a place, so he is telling the Dwarf that all of the people are dead. Now after all of that I would greatly appreciate it if someone where to explain to me exactly where the fuck the people in New Asgard in 'End Game' came from, expesialy Valkrie and Corg who when on the ship and should be dead with the rest on Asgard in space. Yes, this is a pretty big oversight on the part of Marvel but I might be able to overlook it if the new Thor movie 'Love and Thunder' wasn't supposed to be about Valkrie becoming the queen of Asgard. An entire movie is going to be about someone WHO IS DEAD. So I guess we are all looking at a very bright future for Marvel.

[to-fall-or-not-to-fall]

ok so

we agree steve's weirdass time travel thing at the end of endgame was absolute garbage yes

like first of all how tf did he make it back onto his og timeline??

is there some weird tva backstory in there wtf

BUT

today my little brother brought up an absolutely wild question ive never thought of for some reason

but we see that crusty grape breaking steve's shield in the final battle right

and then later he hands sam a completely whole one??

so disregarding how he got back on that timeline in the first place or how the time heist would even work with the tva like are there timelines within timelines now etc

all i can picture is endgame steve going back to the 1940s

acquiring an ice pick or a large drill

digging down to where his frozen ass is in the arctic

stealing his shield (and clothes bc id imagine peggy would be VERY confused otherwise.. although if he did explain she would take it like a champ and then yell at him about abandoning his friends and kick him out yayy)

and then probably murdering that steve for good measure because otherwise it just means a whole mess later

hehe