#maymoth

[toserenity]

[ladymiraclewings]

Miraculous Ships

(Fr) Dans l’ordre, les couples/ships de Miraculous que j’adore

(En) In order, the couples / ship of Miraculous that I like a lot 

Marichat

Adrienette

Lukanette

Marcaniel

Roseka / Julerose

Mayumoth

Ladynoir

[maymothsandmiracles]

So like

People have got to think Hawk Moth and Mayura are a Thing. There must be tabloids on it. Pictures of that time Hawk Moth rested his cheek in Mayura’s hand, speculative articles about that time he jumped in to defend her and rescue her...

Now let’s say the “Emilie is evil” theory is true and she wakes up and becomes an even bigger bad than Hawk Moth

can you imagine how pissed off Paris’s tabloids are going to be that Mayura got “dumped”?

[baronessedcheese]

Let’s talk about body language

I’ve been thinking (and then slacking off), so here is my take on a certain topic I got hooked on in Miracle Queen. Needless to say, I will speak spoiler language. Proceed at your own leisure.

First of all: we were all waiting for a GabeNath kiss to seal the ship’s treasure chest, right? Well, I’m not sure we’re going to get one at all, at least not in the foreseeable future.

But that doesn’t mean that nothing happened between them. I’m pretty convinced that a lot happened off-screen, we just didn’t see it. Let’s not forget that we are talking about an extramarital affair, and this show is mainly for kids (I know that two episodes are still missing, but I won’t get my hopes up for any clarifications). Something definitely happened because the episodes of the finale (and even the episode Ladybug if you think back) show a huge change of dynamics between our beautiful villains. And these little, now explicitly intimate moments are messages to the adult audience that this relationship is more than platonic now, and I will even risk saying that there is a chance that it already went waaay past kissing.

Here’s my scale of the romance that we were given, just because I want to commemorate these moments is one post:

We got fluff stuff in the form of face touching from both sides (Hawkmoth even leaning into Mayura’s palm like a kitty-cat) and the look Gabriel gives Nathalie at the end. It’s all very cute!

As a side note, remember when Hawkmoth akumatized Nathalie back in Heroes’ Day and then in Ladybug? When he puts the akuma on the tablet is a reused animation, but when he grabs Nathalie’s wrist is not. Can you spot the difference (on his face)? (And hers?) Yep.

But there is stuff that goes beyond fluff. It ranges from how Hawkmoth murmured to Mayura from behind her in Loveater, to how he immediately grabs her shoulders when he joins her on the rooftop in Miracle Queen, to how he khm… squeezes her body to his.

And let’s not forget Mayura’s declaration of love. When you know that your love interest has a wife, you don’t just go around saying things like “From the first day I met you I knew I’d do anything for you”  while you basically lock waists with him. That’s very immoral, Nathalie! Everything was so sexually heated there (for all the wrong reasons if I might add), that it urged me to write this text.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were already smoochies exchanged, but we will only get to see one when Emilie is completely out of the picture, because cheating on her is not cool. (But it’s not at all off the table that she will return. Gabriel keeps on going full criminal, even though by now it is so clear that he is infatuated with Nathalie that it pierces my eyeballs. I really don’t know what the hell he wants at this point.)

So my point is that… don’t freak out? The ship probably sailed.

Okay, you can definitely freak out, because if I’m right, then it’s one of those ships where you can see almost no building up and things just happen.

And second of all: what was that melodrama all about on the rooftop?

The whole thing with Mayura collapsing and Hawkmoth’s monologue was such a theatrical moment that my first reaction was laughing, and only after that did my brain process it as an “aaaw, it’s lovely and wooo… smuxy” moment. And I’m a GabeNath fan (someone save me)! My third reaction was that the whole scene was so artificially dramatic that is it possible that Nathalie intentionally initiated it? Of course Hawkmoth was more dramatic, but he always is. I don’t know why, and I have to think about this more, but Mayura collapsing after Hawkmoth turns away and then making a smug face after her declaration of love, and then instantly making a sentimonster without trouble is very fishy. At first I was terrified that Miracle Queen really rampaged and hit Mayura (as the theories flew), or that Nathalie really betrayed Gabriel (a theory that was out there but I never believed would happen). Whatever was going on in that scene got my mind to label Nathalie as suspicious. I’m keeping my eyes on you, lady.

Thank you for reading the interpretations that my mind came up with at 10 PM after days of massive sleep deprivation. May you always have cheese in your life if you love it!

[blackfliesinbluesugar]

[nathalie-sancoeur-assistant]

Miracle Queen

At long last, my late Miracle Queen analysis is here....I apologize for the wait, this would have been out yesterday but unfortunately I realized I had places to be. 

As usual, spoilers are below

Marinette and Luka

DId anyone else take Marinette asking Luka about that “perfect tune” as a different take on asking someone out? Because she asked about it, but then Luka didn’t play it because she was still thinking about Adrien.  Then at the end of the episode, he ass “Are you sure you want to hear it” after she was done thinking about what Master Fu said about life not always giving you what you want or expect but it not necessarily being a bad thing. 

Low-key I interpreted the end of Miracle Queen being the start of a Lukanette relationship. 

And he pulled a Chat Noir here.

“No!” for once when Adrien doesn’t want someone’s advances they actually stop. Kagami respect.

“I mean, yes!” This boy is so confused... I mean, clearly he likes Kagami. He could probably see himself being in a sucessful relationship with her but he’s so confused by his feelings for Ladybug, these surfacing feelings for Kagami and his repressed feelings for Marinette...poor kid.

“Your indecision is hurtful, Adrien” I like that she’s not pushing him, but letting him know that he needs to gather himself soon. 

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“For a moment there, I thought you only had to wear glasses to get a miraculous” 

Hawkmoth and Mayura: Well....

“Dont know this one, he’s cute,  but he gets his clothes from a dumpstser” Luka X Chloe has been canonically shot down. 

Okay so...now Hawkmoth knows the identies of ALL the miraculous wearers outside of Ladybug and Chat Noir...what now? I mean, these all have to be people Ladybug knows and trusts right?- Hawkmoth now knows all their identities, so, he can find out what they have in common. 

They all go to the same school. If he found that out, he could narrow it down to have Ladybug be going to their school as well. 

Then, he could find out WHO they all have in common. Most of them are class mates, so it’s likely someone in THEIR class, but what about Kagami and Luka? The classmates all have relationships with their fellow classmates in common, but Kagami and Luka? Who do they have in common with the class? 

Marinette and Adrien. If it weren’t for Kagami, Juleka. So this is actually kinda dangerous for Marinette if Gabriel and Nathalie followed that line of thinking. 

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Oh my sweet stars...

She’s going down

He’s yelling timber

No but like she was legit just falling down and he just

I don’t know I just get the feeling this scared him.She completely rag-dolled like on some of those video games, and his instinct wasn’t to just catch her either, no, it was to just completely wrap her up in his arms like a burrito.

Then he’s asking her forgiveness, like...he knows he’s in the wrong letting her use it even if she is willing to help him or not. But he can’t do it without her. 

“Don’t blame yourself. From the very first day, I knew that I’d do anything for you.”

So basically what happened was, she was quite fond of Gabriel and loved his family before all of this. But as soon as he told her he was going supervillain, she got smacked in the face with something more because she got to see how much he was willing to do to keep his family intact. 

And he pulls her closer

And then just absolutely melts into her hand

And I am here for it.

I love them and they love each other. 

She’s so pretty. Now, that aside- she brought back Hawkmoth’s sentimonster. Is it a new one or the same one? It certainly looks the same...but what emotion has it been created from, exactly? Does that matter when reviving a sentimonster, assuming it’s supposed to be the same one? Or is it completely different aside from appearance? Her eyes are pretty in these shots.

I am in no way attracted to Gabriel but when we get shots like this I can kinda understand why Nathalie would be.

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This positive reinforcement...absolutely wonderful. She already had a breakdown and was on the verge of another. Chat kept that from happening and did his job as her kitty to keep her grounded and focused. They’re starting to see each other in different lights, her opening up to him so much emotionally like that proves that no matter what they’ll always have an unbreakable bond. They’re literally each other’s pillar of support.

“Littlebug” I love it. Imagine if that’s what he calls his future daughter assuming they get together in the future? Adorable. 

“No, its to dangerous! To many powers at the same time”- Master Fu has obviously been teaching Chat Noir too. He’s been getting all the info Ladybug has it seems, just from that line. I like that detail. 

Sometimes I like to imagine Gabriel or Nathalie in place of Hawkmoth and Mayura and this started cracking me up because it reminded me of Simon Says. Flutter flutter. Flap flap.

Who knew snakes liked cheese?

Cutie. And I like how the second time Adrien got the snake miraculous, he was actually able to wield it as necessary because he wasn’t trying to impress Ladybug, 

Okay so, I like how in this shot they didn’t have him breathing or talking and all the noise seemed to kinda stop. It’s realistic and I like that attention to detail.

Gabriel, honey...ily but you’re dumb. Ladybug is right there, her purifying that akuma before it even reaches it’s target was predictable. 

Also when Chloe opened up there, and Ladybug’s face as she realized exactly what all of this was about- I think it hurt both of them. But Ladybug’s already explained herself. Chloe should have known that if she wanted her miraculous back from Ladybug it wasn’t going to be easy. She already told her so...yeah I understand though. She’s just hurt and let it get the best of her. Girl needs to get her emotions in check. 

Sometimes you an really Tell Gabriel lives in the present without thinking much about the consequences of certain things. He looks so freaking happy about Chloe being so adamantly against Ladybug now and wearing all the miraculous, but how is she going to know what to say to transform before Ladybug gets the miraculous away from her? I understand the excitement of a new ally but “I don’t even need to do anything” Idk if you really want her to be able to use all the miraculous and potentially lose her mind as implied from Kwami Buster you might want to distract Ladybug and Chat so she can figure out the right transformation words. 

“Checkmate, Ladybug!” I have little to say except I love it when villains say “checkmate” during battle. 10/10 dialogue. 

He evil laughs so much in this sequence. I wonder if he’s practiced it? Has Nathalie ever walked in on him practicing his evil laugh in the mirror? and this...

Don’t say checkmate until the opponent has no more pawns to move, And the reactiosn the kwamis have? How many masters have they grown to love and admire that they lost just like that? Also I recall someone saying that this thing has a plot hole in it, but I think that Master Fu really was the true guardian of this particular box just from the backstory he has, he was given the miraculous box and grimoir by another master to protect. So he was in a way established as guardian of that box and so I see no reason why he shouldn’t be able to hand ownership over to anyone of his choice. 

“Hawkmoth! Tell them to give me my box back!” Did anyone else find that hilarious? Like a spoiled child running to a father who has the backbone of a chocolate eclair. 

Except in this case he has the backbone of like...a steel rod. 

And then he just goes to scoop up Mayura. 

“How disappointing...”

I like Mayura’s face here too. “Oh, he’s picking me up? Alright, okay I guess so, that’s fine.”

I literally slow down the playback scenes to watch these scenes go slower. It looks like their heads are touching.

That’s a whole mood. Me too. 

“Im going to New York with Mommy!” Chloe you’re a comedian. 

Wow, she really looks like she’s hurting. 

“Oh my Nathalie...” 

There’s not even a comma, he called her his. 

“There are no words to express how sorry I am”

“No, not for nothing” she still remains the optimistic one. She’s comforting him when she’s the one in need. He obviously thinks she should be upset with him but she just continues telling him its okay. All she cares about is making sure he’s happy and doesn’t want him to blame himself for her choices. Gabriel get this woman a ring. 

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“Goodbye....Master”

I feel so bad for these kwamis. How long does it take before they break after watching everyone they love eventually just die? Have any of them ever emotionally distanced themselves from mortals to avoid the heartbreak when they inevitably lose them? And without Wayzz how long does Master Fu have left being almost 200 years old?

Chloe is really putting on her clown wig in this episode. Mommy is staying in Paris so she can’t go to New York now. Karma, am I right?

“Even if like doesn’t give us the gifts we were hoping for, the true gift is life itself”....And that’s why I think Lukanette is basically canon by the end of the episode. Master Fu’s words play out in her head as she sits next to Luka and she’s not stuttering around Adrien. Her ice cream changes, and I just can’t help but feel like the whole melody thing was symbolic of her accepting Luka’s love and deciding to move on.

They can finally be together...

“Thank you young lady, I will never forget you” if only he knew...

And the way it ended, the endcard...it was all just very sweet and fitting. I do hope Marinette and Adrien will be together by the time Miraculous ends (it’s obviously endgame) but them developing a strong, loving friendship that isn’t plagued with stuttering and stalking is going to be crucial for them to really have a chance at making it. Adrien and Kagami and Luka and Marinette do make sense as couples as we get to know Kagami and Luka more. Still though, I do hope that Adrien and Marinette find each other in the end. There’s to much symbolism pointing to them being (as much as I hate the term) soul mates for them not to. 

And for the record, same with Gabenath imo. Gabriel IS losing his certainties, after all...

[justnapping]

Back to back, because we can't talk to each other normally

[robotslenderman]

AU where everything is the same, especially between Gabriel and Nathalie, but Mayura and Hawk Moth are having a raging affair

(Whenever one meets the other in their civilian form, the supervillain hits on them mercilessly and the civilian gets all flustered)

(Bonus points for the empathetic powers of their Miraculouses feeding back on each other when things get steamy)