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Loki as the assassin poisoner prince who does the evil "feminine" type of murder would fix a lot of ambiguity in the Thor movies. They would both be murderers, but one would do so legally and "honorably" and the other "dishonorably" while doing Odin's dirty work under the table.

1. Why do they prefer the prince that nearly started a war over name-calling when they have no evidence of the other's involvement in plots against Asgard? Because Thor is the one that does things in the Odin-honoring way, to their knowledge!

2. Why do they trust an enemy king more than one of the princes? Because the prince is dishonorable and kills in the evil gay way and thus ranks even lower in their eyes.

3. Why is one prince so distrusted and challenged despite his position? Sif was ready to attack him as he sat in the throne. People gloss over that. It wasn't just "Loki got mad they looked at him wrong." Because they can't have someone like that corrupting the throne, so they can revile him.

4. It adds some extra fucked up context to Loki being so proud of his attempt to annihilate Jotunheim via means that don't involve Asgardian troops. He proudly proclaims it to Odin. I think this hints he has done stuff like this before but on a smaller scale at Odin's behest. How many political enemies has Loki assassinated?

5. It speaks to Loki's self-sacrificial nature in a very sinister and villainous way. Loki is being self-sacrificial but for evil! Loki is willing to be the scapegoat for the realm! Willing to stain his hands and reputation for the sake of Asgard, even if he is reviled in turn. Odin and Thor can remain being honorable as long as Loki does the dirty work. When Loki learns that it's not what Odin wanted. That he failed to be of use, he attempts suicide.

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Huge fan of the MCU implying Odin fucked with Loki's physiology in some permanent or semi-permanent way.

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What's "Cast Out"?

I'd forgotten about it. It's an AU were Odin returns Loki to Jotunheim and Loki whump ensues because he's a runt, a bastard, and he killed Laufey, and his brothers are pissed.

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12 for both myth and MCU Odin

12. What's a headcanon you have for this character?

Myth!Odin: He's a paranoid bitch just like me. He fears what he can't control and breaking everything in his attempts to control. He has a grim countenance as if he mourns prematurely because he does because he's seen too much. He dresses in royal blue. Often he stares into space after his quest for knowledge. The ravens anchor him back to the present. Loki and Frigga fight over him because I think it'd be funny. He's gay and homophobic. I mean, him and Loki fight over who is gayer in the Lokasenna. LMAO. He can't kill Loki and Loki can't kill him due to their oath.

MCU!Odin: He didn't have Hela with Frigga. He was the one who changed Loki into Asgardian. I think he was abusive to the entire family (including Frigga). I'm thinking of the deleted scene where she's asking for him to bring Thor back. It shows no one in the family can bring Thor back. He is very manipulative. He knew how eager Loki was to please him and exploited that by making him an assassin/poisoner, dangling the idea that Loki's shameful sacrifices will earn him his approval and the throne, which were conflated in Loki's mind. I think he was very neglectful of Loki's health and physical needs for the sake of appearances and that it ended up causing health problems.

He wanted Loki more than Frigga did at first, because she was going through post-partum depression and a stillbirth of Baldr. And he thought Loki might be his new useful little henchman, and it was satisfying to have an enemy's child under his command. I think he's homophobic but he cares less if it's Loki, because it makes things easier for him if Loki is undermined, because it would make it easier to put Thor in the throne instead, and makes Loki easier to control if he learns that he lacks the authority Odin and Thor possess and that he technically did that to himself (convenient to throw back at Loki). Thor, on the other hand, has to keep up this image of the ideal Asgardian with no room for deviation.

He went mad when Frigga died.

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Hela was Odin's executioner. Meant to make examples out of any that stood in the empire's way. Meant to strike fear and bring realms to a heel. Meant to crush defiance.

Loki was Odin's assassin. Meant to remain unseen and unheard. Requires traits deemed disreputable in Asgard. Getting his hands dirty to polish Asgard's gilded veneer through "necessary evils".

Thor was Odin's champion. Reframing Asgard's crimes as glory. Reframing Asgard's imperialism as necessary. Thor embodies Asgard's ideals and as its champion is walking propaganda.

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To me, MCU!Odin is homophobic, but he's okay if Loki is known to be queer because it undermines Loki in the eyes of his subjects (he prefers Thor as his heir). He will also throw back at Loki how he should be grateful he hasn't been disowned yet, and uses that to manipulate him. He also points put often how difficult Loki's life would be if he was disowned and lost his title, much like a threat. So Loki needs to prove his worth to him through a bunch of 'errands' that if they came to light, would sink Loki's reputation even further. He guilt-tripped and threatened Loki into being a henchman for free.

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An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Thor (Movies), Loki (TV 2021), Marvel Cinematic Universe Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence Relationships: Loki & Odin (Marvel), Frigga | Freyja & Loki (Marvel) Characters: Loki (Marvel), Odin (Marvel), Frigga | Freyja (Marvel) Additional Tags: Eating Disorders, Trauma, Assassination Plot(s), Child Soldiers, Bullying, References to Illness, Teen Loki (Marvel) Summary:

Loki is the assassin prince of Asgard who has poisoned many dissidents. Surrounded by a feast, he can't make himself consume even the tiniest morsel.

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We never see Loki never get any sort of positive affirmation in public from anyone D:

All he gets publicly is condemnation, humiliation, and violence. Notably being restrained, told he's the worst and deserves to die, and death threats.

There's very few moments where he gets some affirmation, but it's not in public, and yea, as mentioned before, the word 'love' is never said to him.