#minghwa

[peachatini]

I saw this Minghwa moment in a compilation and I had to clip it to have to hand forever.

Seonghwa's face 😂😂

[thirstkanaphan]

saw you mention minhwa as a favorite rarepair of yours in tags, and i've relatively recently been enlightened. would love to hear you elaborate on them!! ✨

Thanks for the ask! I'm delighted to have received a bunch of asks for different pairs, and I will respond to each one in time!

Ah, Mingi x Seonghwa... I find them SO compelling. I think if you were to pick two members who are least likely to have been friends if they hadn't joined Ateez, it would be them. AND YET, they have more in common than we think, and they've clearly worked hard to understand each other. There's a lot of care and respect and affection in that relationship.

I'm going to quote myself a bit, because I've written meta about them before.

On the surface, there is much to differentiate these two. Seonghwa as an idol is polished and practiced and crafted, whereas Mingi's charm is that he is instinctive, unpredictable, and ungovernable. Seonghwa is very socially intelligent and can pivot from cute and silly to bold and sexy, depending on the scenario; Mingi lacks that ability and cannot mask in the same way. I will also note that Mingi understands this about himself and will sometimes use it to his advantage to make himself the center of attention.

Mingi defies/resists Seonghwa in really interesting ways. He cannot be nudged along with subtle cues like Seonghwa does with the rest of the '99 line. Seonghwa's advice doesn't reach him, because they have expressively different outlooks on life.

One thing they always emphasize about themselves and each other, is that Mingi is a classic "T" personality type and Seonghwa is a classic "F" personality type. Mingi describes himself as being literal-minded and bluntly honest, but also receptive to feedback and quick to adapt. He'll eschew social niceties in favor of cutting to the heart of the matter.

From an exchange between the members in 2022:

Mingi: Obviously I'm in ENTP, and especially when I'm with the members, I'm trying to be more considerate of them rather than just being an F. I guess only the members can tell if that works, though. I'm trying like this, but that doesn't mean I don't like my personality. I like being an ENTP. When I thought it wouldn't be so good if a member did something, I didn't beat around the bush and directly said: "Hey, don't do that."

Seonghwa: Before MBTI existed, we came to Mingi with a plan. When we told him carefully, 'Mingi if you do that, wouldn't it be a little weird?' Mingi was like, 'Yeah, okay. Sorry.' But when he told me carelessly 'I don't like you doing this,' it made me crazy. That's where all the misunderstandings begin. When I say such things, he's totally fine, but when he does - I'm not [fine].

Mingi changed his manner of speaking to be less blunt, out of respect for members like Seonghwa who prefer to approach confrontations/discussions with more circumspection.

Mingi appreciates and acknowledges Seonghwa's ability to do emotional labor for Ateez, as a mediator for the group.

Mingi's message to Seonghwa: "Hello. Did you know that understanding and comforting others around you is difficult in some aspects, but you are doing it so well? It shows how warmhearted you are. It is a pleasure to see you loving those not only around you but also yourself."

And while Mingi doesn't let Seonghwa "parent" him the way he does with other members, Mingi does reach out to Seonghwa for comfort. He said on Idol Radio that Seonghwa is the one he goes to when he's having a hard time. There's a safety in knowing that Seonghwa won't push him away if he really needs physical affection.

When you consider them as artists, they have a lot in common. Mingi has very clear goals and ideas of what he wants as an artist and shamelessly pursues them, even when that puts him at odds with the idol persona. Seonghwa too has his own agenda, but finds ways to mold his idol persona around those aspirations so they appear seamlessly integrated into his character lore. They both have extremely high standards for themselves and their art. Seonghwa has confessed in the past to being really hard on himself for not meeting his own standards, contributing to a lot of his issues with self-esteem. Meanwhile, Mingi has always held a rigid idea of what success looked like for himself and their group and has grappled with the harsh realities of the music industry, both domestic and international.

As someone who has experienced tremendous anxiety, Mingi can understand (perhaps better than most) Seonghwa's own personal journey to loving himself.

From 2021:

Mingi and Seonghwa are also two of the most frequent contributors to the Ateez official tiktok channel. They understand the work that goes into keeping fans serviced.

They both have striking visuals that are considered non-traditional for kpop idols, yet which have opened doors for them in the world of high fashion model editorials. They are both savvy self-promoters and networkers who have forged partnerships and collaborations without KQ's help.

I think Seonghwa is disarmed by Mingi's ability to move through the world without much social tact but has immense respect for Mingi as a performer. I think he sometimes envies that Mingi gets the "sexy" parts, and that manifests in him teasing Mingi when they're in front of atiny, but it's a form of flattery too. They rarely interact on stage, but when they do, it's explosive.

He repeatedly highlights Mingi's charisma on stage and praises the energy he brings to every performance. I get the sense that this is not something Mingi hears from him in private (given his surprise at Seonghwa's answer), but Seonghwa always makes sure to say stuff like this when they are on camera.

Seonghwa also defends Mingi against others who misunderstand him. There's an old Weekly Idol episode where the hosts ranked Mingi last for "who would be generous with gifts" which clearly upset him and the other members, so Seonghwa defended him:

I like how they both offer praise to the other members and perform acts of service often without expectation of credit.

We've also gotten glimpses into their lives at the dorm where they have a softer dynamic, filled with dry humor and deep conversations. I think they've both gotten closer as they've grown and matured, so there's probably a lot about their relationship we don't know or see.

Going back to the conversation from the video above, I do think Mingi's own journey towards letting go of his rigidly-held beliefs of how things should be has allowed him to mature into less of a perfectionist and someone who can inhabit a more comfortable season of his adulthood; in contrast, Seonghwa mentions that his own "lukewarm" persona is something he now seeks to discard to show the "hotter" parts of himself. They seem to have met briefly in the middle of their respective journeys and are once more heading in opposite directions. I wonder if they'll ever again meet in that place.

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[kinkteez]

Hi hi~

I wanted to ask was there anything special you guys did for Valentine’s Day (both wholesome and spicy)?

I’ve been keeping up with the blog and I wanted to say how much I love it so far!

A/N: This is a poly-ATEEZ kink ask blog! Feel free to ask any of the eight members a question! :) Reblogs are very appreciated!

San: Hi hi, and thank you for your kind words!~ Ah, Valentine's day... This year, we had our concert in Denmark on the 14th, so unfortunately we were not able to really do much. Some of us got little gifts for each other, mostly just snacks and flowers. In fact, Jongho gave each of us eight red roses!

Mingi: It was so thoughtful of him! He's a proper gentleman. 10/10, I blushed.

San: Me too.

Yunho: Me three. He's really got it all figured out. And he did get a blowjob or two for his efforts after the concert - as he should.

Mingi: [Subconsciously licks his lips, nodding] Mmh! I was so tired, but... Someone had to, you know?

Yunho: You mean aside from Hongjoong?

Mingi: ...Yes.

Yunho: [Laughing] Of course!~ But I think after the concert and various mouthly activities, we all just cuddled up with someone and went to sleep. Another year though... All we had was a fan meeting in the late afternoon, so some of the gang went out for dinner after, and Wooyoung and I stayed in and played video games. And eventually got jokingly mad at each other and fucked. That counts as pretty romantic, if you ask me.

San: [Laughs] Wonderful!~ Yeah, that year I took Yeosang to a lake near our house, for a stroll in the sunset. We got tteokbokki from a street vendor after, and it was so peaceful. Well... It was until we got home and heard you guys in the living room. We went into the YunSang bedroom to not have to listen to you guys arguing, and we... Had a nice time~

Yunho: [Gasp] A nice time... In my room?!

San: [Winks]

Mingi: [Laughing at Yunho's misfortune] I was in the group that went to get dinner; Seonghwa, Hongjoong, Jongho and me. It was very romantic, or as romantic as we can make it in public, anyway. It was a very nice chinese place with screens between the tables for a bit more privacy. But like, it was in public. So we didn't do anything more scandalous than have very intense prolonged eye contact across the table. Until we got home, at least... Hwa and Jongho set up a thing.

San: ...A thing?

Mingi: Mmh, yeah, like a scene I think. They had me and the captain lie down with our heads next to each other, but like with our bodies in opposite directions. Jongho was, uh... Well, he was taking care of Hongjoong, and Seonghwa was taking care of me. But they told Hongjoong that each time he misbehaved, I would be the one to be punished for it! [Pouts dramatically] It... It was really nice. They set up some rules, and you know Hongjoong, of course he had to test them. And each time he did, Hwa would, uhh... He would do really mean thing to me. I liked it, of course I liked it, but Hongjoong got all soft and started to behave. Don't think he liked to let me take his punishments. And uh, yeah, we both got all mushy and obedient and stuff. And they took very good care of us. It was so hot to hear Hongjoongie so close to me. You know how he sounds when he gets just like, railed into next Tuesday. Which he did, eventually. And I did too. We held hands at some point, I'm pretty sure.

[feellikeasadsong]

HAPPY BIRTHDAYY TO HWAA!!!

[thirstkanaphan]

Not the puppy eyes!! Oh Mingi, I hope you never figure it out.

[thirstkanaphan]

This clip made a return to my timeline and I think it's one of my favorite MinHwa interactions from recent memory. Mingi's just come back from one of his side quests (I think a gallery or fashion brand opening?) and he's all dolled-up. Seonghwa has been chilling with atiny and Mingi stops by to say hello.

Mingi, doing a bit like he stumbled on Seonghwa's live and is acting surprised: "Seonghwa-hyung I missed you! Ah, you were doing a live~?"

Seonghwa: "Why are you being so awkward? Where are you coming from?"

Mingi: "Well, just this and that - an event. Hello!"

Seonghwa: "You have hair and makeup done, I see... You look pretty"

Mingi, exaggerating and speaking in English for atiny: "Ah, that's me everyday, right?"

Seonghwa, deadpan: "That's not it"

Mingi: "I'm going~ I'm very tired"

I mentioned in another post that one of the things that compels me about the MinHwa relationship is that they are not sweet with each other. They don't need that from the other. In a strange way, I think Mingi gives Seonghwa permission to be catty and petty and a touch cruel (in a way you can only be with family) because Seonghwa knows Mingi can shake it off. Mingi has his own insecurities and anxieties but they are not necessarily inflamed by any kind of competition with Seonghwa. Seonghwa is competitive with other members for certain things (I just watched their production behind for IOMT and he is not pleased to have lost out on the lines he wanted in the audition process), but not necessarily with Mingi, who plays a very different role on the team. I also don't think Seonghwa can dominate Mingi the way he can dominate the others; he cannot be governed by the subtle "mothering" techniques he employs on the rest of the 99' line.

I shouldn't say that they never compete with each other: whereas Yunho made reference to Mingi's "chocolate" (abs) for his Calvin Klein campaign, Seonghwa divulged that Mingi was having a tough time preparing for his shoot -- but then he redirected attention to his own forthcoming magazine spread.

I think there's an interesting identification happening, actually. Mingi has very clear goals and ideas of what he wants as an artist and shamelessly pursues them, even when that puts him at odds with the idol persona. Seonghwa too has his own agenda, but finds ways to mold his idol persona around those aspirations so they appear seamlessly integrated into his character lore. They both have extremely high standards for themselves and their art. Seonghwa has confessed in the past to being really hard on himself for not meeting his own standards, contributing to a lot of his issues with self-esteem. Meanwhile, Mingi has always held a rigid idea of what success looked like for himself and their group and has grappled with the harsh realities of the music industry, both domestic and international.

They both have striking visuals that are considered non-traditional for kpop idols yet has opened doors for them in the world of high fashion model editorials. They are both savvy self-promoters and networkers who have forged partnerships and collaborations without KQ's help.

I think they are so similar that it makes them incompatible (not to refer again to the fortune teller episode), but that's where I find their tension so interesting. They would not be friends if it wasn't for Ateez, but they clearly have worked hard to understand each other.

[kinkteez]

mingi, do you have a favorite dom? if so, what is your favorite thing to do with him?

A/N: This is a poly-ATEEZ kink ask blog! Feel free to ask any of the eight members a question! :) Reblogs are very appreciated!

Mingi: A favorite-- [huffs indignantly] Why would I have a favorite dom? I love everyone, but I don't sub, not really, so why--

Seonghwa: [looks at Mingi, expressionless]

Mingi: ... Right, uhm. I guess if you count me as a submissive... In those situations... Agh, it's hard to choose who I like better. It all just feels good, you know?

Seonghwa: [keeps looking at Mingi, expressionless]

Mingi: Shit, uhhh, I guess Jongho? He's got a calming presence and he's so dependable. I trust him a lot. So much. If I'm upset, he just needs to look at me, and he knows what I want. Or like... Need. Sometimes it's just a hug or praise, sometimes it's uhh, other, more involved things. But he's so calm about it, you know? He'll just do the things, without asking too many questions I don't know how to answer. And I trust him to do the right things, because he's never been wrong, I don't think. He's really attentive too, I only have to wince and he'll change up what he's doing. So uh yeah, Jongho. I love everyone else just as much too, though, don't get the wrong idea!

Seonghwa: That's what I thought.

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