#muttonchop discourse

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cyraniadebergerac replied to your post: “cyraniadebergerac replied to your post: “cyraniadebergerac replied to...” :

Other fans have noted he wouldn't have the authority to order something like that, pointing that he was overemphasizing his role there.

whether he had the authority to give that order or not is kinda irrelevant in the face of the facts that

he did it and

that’s why they were banned

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cyraniadebergerac replied to your post: “cyraniadebergerac replied to your post:  “˜the day i betrayed the...”:

Which seems to have been a lie to goad Zeb into fighting angry and making more mistakes if he was at all truthful at the moon.

ehm, muttonchop’s use of them is what led them to be banned. it wasn’t a lie.

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cyraniadebergerac replied to your post:  “˜the day i betrayed the empire was the day i stopped betraying myself’...” :

Some people have theorized that the bloodthirstiness then was him seeking to assuage his guilt for Lasan by imaginging that all lasat were like the one that slaughtered his unit once they were out and had no way to fight back yet left him alive. A wrong and evil sentiment, yet an understandable one when anger and vengeance are often used to to fight guilt and grief in an Empire that already indoctrinates its people with anti-alien sentiments.

idunno man, it takes a particular kind of sadism to turn weaponry designed for use in ship to ship combat, and later banned by the galactic empire, on people and enjoy using it, and boast about enjoying using it

there is like

zero handwaving that can excuse that

edit: like. let’s not forget. this is the same empire that blew up a whole entire planet. and would have done so multiple more times if the rebel alliance hadn’t stopped them. they ain’t squeamish people.

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cyraniadebergerac replied to your post: “˜the day i betrayed the empire was the day i stopped betraying myself’...”:

I admit, they should have handled that moment your talking about better when going for the redemption plot.

cyraniadebergerac replied to your post: “˜the day i betrayed the empire was the day i stopped betraying myself’...”:

So you don't count his horror when Tarkin had the two officers executed? I could see that also being him simply in fear of his job, but the expression was different from when he thought Zeb was going to kill him.

this is the same muttonchop who kicked a stormtrooper off a ledge to his death for asking an awkward question back in s1. until his weird pastede-on-conscience-attack in Ice Moon Quality Tiem, he didn’t give a fuck about rando imperials who were not him, never mind non imperials. granted one could argue that the stormtroopers are not officers and thus more expendable in his mind but that’s not exactly a ringing endorsement...

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‘the day i betrayed the empire was the day i stopped betraying myself’ says agent muttonchop, who was very clearly enjoying himself smacking the shit out of zeb while gleefully reminiscing about the wholesale slaughter of zeb’s entire people back in s1

like

if he’d shown even the tiniest bit of conflict back then i might be willing to try for the suspenders of disbelief. but until ice moon quality tiem? herr facial hair? showed exactly 0 (zero) scruples about literally anything

This Is Really Bad Characterisation, Filoni

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fettjango replied to your post “you know what i don’t care what he ‘risked’ during his stint as...”

Right? Like they should have hauled his ass to Sunspot Prison the moment the Ghost landed on Yavin 4 with him.

YUP

i mean i know i keep banging on about atla like it’s a fucking good show or something but god damn even zuko caught more flack for his shit and he was nowhere near as objectively awful a human being as kallus. and yet kallus just saunters in and everyone immediately loves him.

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you know what i don’t care what he ‘risked’ during his stint as fulcrum, it highkey amazes me that literally anyone in the rebellion trusts kallus to so much as tell them the time never mind do anything of actual consequence

“he’s a criminal D<” kallus has the audacity to complain about a contact. like. okay. first of all, legality and morality are not the same thing. secondly, so are you, dipshit.

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sithrecluse replied to your post: “the thing that aggravates me about kallus’s heel face turn is that i...”:

Filonis kin with kallus

is it really kinning if it’s your own oc tho like

wouldn’t that just make kallus his self insert