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So, I may have sent this before, I'm not certain, and I apologize if so. Basically as an casual Namor enjoyer, one idea I had regarding him and Sue, is that the reason behind him still being ocasionally depicted as into her, is because he felt guilty after Dorma's death, feeling bad about ignoring her affection back in the day while going after Sue, so he's been trying to convince himself his thing with her was something far more meaningful and deeper than it was and/or that after all the other women he loved and lost, he's subconciously afraid of genuinely getting close to someone like that again, so he hits on the one woman he admires, but knows would always reject him. Could something like that work?

Namor going after the "unattainable" invisible woman is something I have given considerable thought to over the years, and honestly you start to see a shift in Namor's character after the death of Marrina, and then the rejection by Carrie, where Namor isn't constantly chasing after love/romance, and I don't think your theory is unfounded so much as it's never really presented that way in the comics because every writer has Namor making an ass of himself for Sue in Fantastic Four comics. He is constantly written as a Man who was told No and can't accept it for an answer but writers literally just ignore the many times Namor has accepted Sue's choice and even tells Sue or Reed "I hope you will be happy/Treat her right" etc. so it's a disconnect between Canon and the Fanon that writers think is Canon bc they just slap the whole "reset Namor back to man who needs to woo Sue" whenever they are put on page together.

And it's not like Namor hasn't had other romances after Dorma (but before Marrina), in The Defenders (1972) #116 Namor is enjoying a night with Valkyrie swimming in the ocean, and when Valkyrie kisses him he breaks it off because he isn't over his love of Dorma.

The main issues with Namor/Dorma, or Dorma in general as a character is that she is a woman character being written in the 60s, 70s comic and she was not the focus of the comics, she was the leading lady of Sub-Mariner comics, the damsel in distress, the betrayer, the lover, the savior of Namor, etc. but we rarely got her own story that wasn't about/connected to Namor in some way, and she had basically been around the comics for a while that writers just said "well we can't have Dorma here, we can't have Namor married and happy, we want to send him to the surface, or have him be the third wheel in ReedSue for drama or whatever" so they pushed forward the wedding/death of Dorma for maximum Angst for Namor and set her up to be that one perfect true lost love that he will never get over. Which makes me angry because Dorma may not be a perfect character but she was interesting and she deserved better than to be used like that. Namor and Dorma don't have a whole lot of courtship on page because I guess writers thought wasn't interesting? I'm not sure, but it is clear that Namor did love Dorma deeply even if he was an idiot who didn't realize just how much Dorma meant to him until it was too late.

So headcanoning that Namor thinks of Sue as the "safe" option because he knows he can't have her and thus won't have his heart broken again is an interesting way of putting it but in all honestly if I just go by canon stuff it's not something that holds up, because even after Dorma, Betty, Marrina, and Carrie, we still have countless moments like Valkyrie, then we have that full on romance/break up with Abira in Namor: The First Mutant.

Honestly I feel kinda crazy sometimes when I try to talk about this subject because I want to imprint into people's brains that Namor being written in Fantastic Four comics is Not a good version of the character and if you really want to get into him then read his own comics or something like The Defenders where he is on even footing with other characters and not being used as a romance sub-plot device.

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Keep your ship hate out of the ship tag, you dumb bitch.

Hmmm which ship? Bc the only one I constantly criticize is NamorSue but no one's ever called me a dumb bitch for hating on it.

So this must either be about wandavision or rogueremy aka romy since I criticized both, again the key word there is criticized not blindly posting hate. I look at their relationships and break down why I don't like them. If you don't like that then block me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#imp answers #namorsue #wandavision #romy #i make like 1 post about the negative aspects of a ship and thats bad apparently #bc as we all know we cant criticize media we consume 🙃

So, I know you're not a fan of Namor/Sue, and I totally agree with your reasons, but also I kinda like the idea that they still engage in a playful flirtation, even though they both know it won't go anywhere? Do you think that's workable? Granted, this is mainly because I feel it makes Reed more awesome.

I mean I have very strong feelings against Namor/Sue, I don’t want to read about them unless it’s in a friendship relationship or if it’s Namor/Sue/Reed where everyone is on board with this and no cheating happens. If you want Namor/Sue then there is plenty of AUs where Namor and Susan do get together, the best one would be, What if? #27 (1989) Where Namor joined the Fantastic Four.