Eh, I wouldn’t? Consider it bad personally because if you think about how, natal charts can be snapshots of the political climate of a certain time period - then I wouldn’t consider it bad personally (and also because Saturn is a social planet? It’s - not immensely personal but it can have a strong influence on the person and how they come up)
Generationally, it can indicate you being able to perceive how certain authorities (Saturn) may be opposing changes certain generations is trying to make. Making improvements against these mindset/goals hard to reconcile, because they’re looking at opposite/coming from different environments/intents/wanting to preserve different things (Saturn opposition Pluto). You may be able to see both sides of the story, or you may learn on one side and refuse to the see the other (opposition) - what matters is that when these are in opposition to each other - both may feel strongly about what they stand for (Saturn and Pluto) and what they’re losing as a consequence of moving one way or the other (i.e. progress vs conserve) which is where the core of the problem lies.
On a personal note, if you think consider Saturn to be an important influence on your life (which is the case for Saturn dominant people) - you may be very perceptive and adept at picking up when certain figures in your life do not have your best intention at heart, or if it opposes your view on certain things. This may often be perceived as them threatening your sense of stability/foundation in a way, this aspect could point to the individual’s search for their own meaningfulness and position in life through their own research/discovery. Thus, any opposition that comes your way may often be perceived with them being ‘against’ you. Watch for defensiveness or black/white thinking when you ‘feel’ like others are ‘bringing you down’ - understanding that changes have to happen, and is constant in life, will also come with learning how to accept and be more open/willing to change outside of your own foundation/stability which could be helpful to you as well 🖤💖🦇 Alright, I think that’s it. 🖤💖🦇 I hope this helps! 🖤💖🦇
Can you describe venus square pluto in the natal chart? I heard it makes someone very possessive and fall for people that’s not good for them(?) I feel like it’s the reason I have no luck with finding someone.😔
Hey there! 💕 You’re plenty lovable 💕 You have your own charm and people do like you, it’s just a matter of understanding yourself that’s going to help 💕
[Below Cut: Natal Venus-Square-Pluto and How To Help ]
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Everything in their chart can point to them being a ‘soft’ person (with high moral integrity).
But when it’s put into a context that ‘activates’ Venus-Square-Pluto, they may find themselves discovering a deeper, darker (and more passionate) part of their psyche (Pluto) that empowers them to seek dominance or monopoly of their Venus-activated subjects sometimes.
Venus-Square-Pluto people might find themselves reacting instinctively-- often illogically and passionately devoted to someone/something.
Venus, as a planet of social relationship, romance, artistry and when creating friction with Pluto that embodies powerful discovery, transformation, passion and deeper psyche -- can often ‘transform’ the person into wanting sovereignty over their relationship/reacting intensely to something/someone without consulting their other placements.
Thus, why it seems illogical. But at the same time they possess an almost self-sacrificial ability to give everything to their lovers. Their only compensation is trying to make sure that the other person does the same.
This leads them to ‘prompt’ the other--- ‘demand’ something from them or sometimes be possessive/manipulative in order to ‘secure’ the relationship.
They might find themselves repeating cycles/patterns with their lovers, because they truly want to understand, connect and ‘unravel’ the other person entirely. This is insatiable drive that they often does constantly, in order to see the ‘results’ they want-- that the other is just as equally passionate as they are.
*While it may seem ‘bad’ or detrimental it’s also a part that we have to understand in order to overcome/work through it better.
The thing with Venus-Square-Pluto (or the lesson they have to learn here) is that all the negative thoughts; all the whys and hows --- is a reflection of themselves that they are projecting onto others, which is what’s causing the tension in the first place.
See, Venus is also about reflection. (Think 7H/DSC) You want your partner to be like you or ‘reflect’ the things you want to see. The lesson Venus bring is self-reflection, the Venus-Square-Pluto person has to realize their need to control the others/feed on the other so much is because they need to be just as thorough with themselves.
Romantic relationship gives them a ‘subject’ they can sink their teeth into. When really it should’ve been themselves that they actually want to understand, discover and see all the uglies with.
In a way, there’s a subconscious fear of seeing all their own uglies in Venus-Square-Pluto aspect. Which is why this control/possessiveness can be projected on the partner. And thus, the manipulation/cycles happen.
Love (Venus) and Power (Pluto) -- if you think about it as Venus-Pluto as is, it’s supposed to be talking about ‘Love of Power’ right? And if add the ‘self’ (instead of the ‘partner’) -- it would be ‘Love the Empowerment of Self’ instead.
Manipulation happens when they ‘Love the Empowerment they Have Over Others’ (replacing the ‘self’ with ‘others). Look to see where it stems from, usually it’s a fear of their own self-worth or the self.
A way to help with this placement is to confront the cause of fear the Venus-Square-Pluto stem from. If it’s something like ‘I always get into terrible fights, because we’re possessive over each other’ -- what’s the main cause of that possessiveness? Surface stuff like lack of time, lack of interaction isn’t cutting it.
Sink deeper into the reason, is it loneliness? Is it telling you you’re a lonely person at heart and with/without a partner? Maybe you’ve always felt lonely by yourself-- so now that you have someone who fills it up, you’re unwilling to part with it so you don’t go back again?
The cause of Venus-Square-Pluto’s tension is always from themselves. And it’s always something to do with their psyche. So try to discover your own psyche and it’ll help you learn how to build a more equalized, stable and probably more fruitful relationship.
Also, realize that it’s all just a part of nature. There’s nothing to be ashamed of if you don’t ‘fit’/‘succeed’ at falling into what we consider to be a ‘healthy/conventional’ relationship instantly.
Understanding the psyche also means understanding/accepting/tolerating what you were feeling/doing honestly as well. Nature can be helped through nurture.
That’s all I have for Venus-Square-Pluto in the natal! 💕 I hope this helps 💕💕💕 Thank you for sending it in! 💕
