Ngl your art of Locke has piqued my interest in Warframe more than anything ever as, cute ocs with tragic stories make me wanna gnaw on the bars of my enclosure 💜
fdjkfksdnfkdsf this is like the greatest compliment I could ever receive <33333 THANK YOU SO MUCH IM CRYIGN!!!
I'm so happy that me insane-posting about Locke has gotten other folks interested in the game. It's honestly such an amazing game run by a group of super passionate people so if you ever do get the chance to check it out PLEASE DO!
This made my day lol thank you <333 I am off to make more Locke art as we speak to hopefully draw even MORE moots/followers into Warframe ;D <3
Out of curiosity, what were Sullivan’s, Amicia’s, and Kara’s backstories? Specifically their time with the Sabbat. Were they any of the ones listed out in the Night Road game or were they original?
... Sorry anon, bad news, but the question you've asked has an answer which is actually a bit complicated.
(Okay it's not REALLY, but you got me talking and I talked far more than you probably actually WANTED. SORRY NOT SORRY)
So basically you gotta keep something in mind: Amicia and Kara were made by @nightingaletrash, and Sullivan is mine. They are all the childer of Millicent Rue, much like the canonical Lasombra courier from Night Road. They were all shovelheads, and after two years and her third surviving fledgling Millicent went "fuck it, I have three kids now, I'm never doing this again." After Millicent basically ditched the three of them, to survive, Kara went into working with artefacts, and Amicia and Sullivan became couriers. Kara would eventually be reunited with her biological daughter, who's a Ravnos named Evie (who you've probably seen me talk about -- Sullivan dotes on her), and at some point Amicia moved to Seattle, started a blood den, and became sexually and later romantically involved with Prince Cross.
That's where the simple bit ends.
In reality it's actually a bit complicated past that because of a few things.
Biggest thing: @nightingaletrash and I both have our own separate continuities. For the most part, 95% of what we talk about happens in both, but I essentially have a copy pasted version of Sullivan running around in her head, and she has one of her lot running around in mine.
The biggest differences in our separate universes are these:
In @nightingaletrash's continuity, Evie was the canon VTMB fledgling and Amicia was the canon VTMNR courier.
In Maddyverse (my continuity), Madeline (thus the name) was the canon VTMB fledgling, and my canon VTMNR courier was someone entirely separate called Elisa Mulgrew, my Gangrel, who is Lettow Kaminsky's childe.
So because of that there's minor differences in backstories. For example, I can't quite remember what Evie's backstory is in Maddyverse, where she's not the Fledgling (I have it somewhere!), but obviously she didn't have to deal with all the bullshit the Fledgling did so while she's still independent she's probably less anti-Sect than she is in @nightingaletrash's continuity. And in @nightingaletrash's continuity, Amicia was the canon VTMNR courier, so in her universe Amicia would've had more money sooner and therefore would've met Prince Cross and become influential over there a lot faster than she would have in Maddyverse.
We don't actually talk about the differences much, we just talk about what each universe has in common and if I've had to I just slightly adapt it in my head to fit Maddyverse, and I've always assumed she did the same thing for hers. I've never asked her her explicit thoughts on it but the way I see it, her version of Sullivan is just a duplicate copy that she can do whatever she wants to because my Sullivan is over here in my head, hers is an AU version of mine. She can do whatever she wants to her version of Sullivan because it doesn't have any effect on my (Maddy)version of Sullivan.
I don't do whatever I want with Kara or Amicia though because we've never actually explicitly discussed this and I don't want to be disrespectful of her ownership of her characters, as I know my interpretation is pretty laissez-faire compared to how most people feel about other people playing with their OCs. In any case, both universes have so much in common it's never had to come up, because they're all Millicent's childer, Amicia always ends up in Seattle, Sullivan always ends up working for Amicia -- the only thing that really changes between our heads is when it happens and what Amicia was up to and what Evie's backstory is.
(Am dying to know what Elisa'd probably be up to in her universe, though -- she'd have never diablerised Aila, and presumably wasn't able to come back to Tucson in 2019 because Lettow explicitly requested her as courier just so he could have his estranged childe close by to keep an eye on her. If Elisa was working in Tucson at the time, she'd have been given all the assignments, not Amicia, so there's no universe where Amicia is the VTMNR courier where Elisa could have been present. And given the Tucson court went tits up in @nightingaletrash's universe when Amicia betrayed them to the SI, either Lettow was destroyed before he could ever be reconciled with Elisa, or he went on the Beckoning before they were ever reunited. Which makes me really sad to think about because Elisa was struggling, and VTMNR was when the hardest part of her life as a vampire was finally put behind her. SO THAT GIVES ME THE SADS. Damn, now I've got a plotbunny biting...)
But if we look at their Doylian backstory it gets even more complicated lmao.
Because like. as a character. Sullivan actually started off as an AU version of another character.
(and feel free to tune out at this point because I realise this actually has nothing to do with your actual question of his IN-UNIVERSE backstory, AT ALL, lmao, sorry, it's more his out-of-universe backstory)
So. Maddyverse is Maddyverse because the fledgling is Madeline Jones, my first ever vampire OC. She had an identical twin sister called Meredith. Meredith went on to marry a Welsh trans man named Jonathan Grey and opened a pharmacy in Seattle. Here's a picture I made of him with Artbreeder before everyone realised how fucked up using AI was:
Meredith was walking home in December 2019 when she got involved in the mass Embrace. She is my canonical VTMB2 main character, although that may change by the time it finally fucking comes out.
I played with Jonathan a bit. I decided after Meredith's disappearance he closed their pharmacy and moved back to the UK, taking their twin daughters with him.
As he was a pharmacist, eventually he got the attention of a Brujah who wanted drugs, and was ghouled. Yeah, Jonathan had a fucking meth lab. He absolutely hated being a ghoul and as he got older and didn't age, he was forced to distance himself from his daughters and basically be a disaster father figure to protect them and also himself.
His Brujah domitor had a Lasombra enemy, who, while fucking with the Brujah, noticed that her ghoul seemed to be pretty resilient to her fuckery. Jonathan was pumped full of Brujah blood, so had a huge "FUCK YOU" streak. Lasombra got distracted trying to fuck with Jonathan and eventually tried to Embrace him.
It took her four attempts, that's how fucking stubborn and how much a fighter Jonathan was. But she managed it. Ended up being a bad idea, though: the first thing Jonathan did when he woke up from his Embrace was stake her ass and leave her out for the sun. And then go back to running his pharmacy.
Problem with this backstory is... Meredith was Embraced in 2019. With the amount of time that passed, by the time Jonathan was finally Embraced we're looking at it being after 2050 in the timeline. So I adored Jonathan and was itching to play him, but I'd never be able to in a modern game because he's too far ahead in the timeline.
But I wanted to play him in VTMNR. I wanted to play him badly. So I tweaked a few things -- he still has the wife that went missing, still has twin daughters, still trans, still Lasombra... but he was Embraced in 1994 instead. He doesn't become as bitter and hateful towards Kindred because he didn't spend thirty or so years as a ghoul, and he had his sisters show up shortly after his Embrace, so he never lost that goofy part of his personality (even if there's very few people who are aware of it).
Given their near-identical appearances, Sullivan is now Jonathan's biological uncle who went missing when Jonathan was very young, almost too young to remember him. The two of them later would meet, towards the end of the 21st century, in Seattle, and Sullivan would attempt to take Jonathan under his wing, but by then Jonathan utterly despised every Kindred he'd ever meet and barely tolerated him. While I haven't decided for certain Jonathan will probably, at some point, be destroyed at Sullivan's hands for Embracing a powerful-ass vampire hunter and siccing him on the vampire populace of Seattle. Even as a Lasombra, given that he was Embraced as a Brujah ghoul, he still has a lot of Brujah traits -- and I don't see Jonathan ever fully toeing the line as a Cainite.
Jonathan might get away alive. Ultimately, he's still got that Brujah in him, and Sullivan doesn't like to physically fight unless he really has to so has few physical skills. But if Prince Cross, his beloved sister's lover, tells him to put him down, then he intends to finish the job. They might end up chasing each other all across the US for decades, who knows... depends if I want Jonathan to live or not I guess, or if I want to keep playing with a story that's nearly a hundred years away and will probably never get to write out (how many VTM fanfics take place in the far future like that?).
UH. ANYWAY. As for Amicia' and Kara's backstories, I'm sure @nightingaletrash will add those on when she can!
Beckett marks off "they are sooo cool looking," "if they were real I would be afraid of them" (because if Beckett is real, WoD is real, and Oh Shit), "if they were real i would marry them," "they're like a blorbo to me," "they're deeper than they seem," "like them enough to project my own issues onto them," "i want to carry them in a handbag like a tiny dog," "free space," "why was this character in the work at all" (me @ the Year of the Scarab Trilogy).
Thank you for playing Bingo with me @nightingaletrash!
I did a quick google search on the names Dai and Ryusaki for funsies and figured I'd share the results with you ^^
Ryusaki brought back results for Ryuzaki, which translates to 'Dragon' or 'Imperial,' otherwise Ryusaki returned no translation results that I could find.
Dai was a bit trickier to pin down, though most of the sources I found claim that it means 'Large' or 'Big' with some possible alternatives depending on how it's written in kanji. So assuming that Ryusaki has the same translation to Ryuzaki and the kanji spelling for Dai translates to big, Dai Ryusaki was literally called Big Dragon...
Either he chose the name for himself ala Voldemort or his parents didn't hesitate.
Oh, that’s really interesting! Thank you for sharing! :)
I have to say, I love the name “Big Dragon” – and honestly, both of your explanations sound great to me. And yeah, there’s definitely something going on with a dragon when it comes to “Ryusaki”. I don’t know if you’ve seen the post I made a while ago where I discussed the whole thing with Jacob believing there’s a dragon at Hogwarts and the WIW’s tattoo. Of course, I wrote it before we learnt about Dai Ryusaki, but I still think it’s not just an accident.
Now, I’d like to add to “Dai” because I looked it up myself, and it apparently can be a given name, though it’s primarily a male name of WELSH origin, meaning beloved. Many other sites talk about both Welsh and Japanese origin. Other meanings can be a friend or to shine as well. But either way, it got me thinking… Perhaps this name was chosen on purpose as a clue that Dai Ryusaki was half-Japanese, half-Welsh, for example?
Here’s the thing. One thing that always bothered me about the inclusion of Mahoutokoro is that it’s just… so random. Like, the Cursed Vaults are all about Hogwarts which is in Scotland. It’s not even close to Japan. I mean, it does make some sense, yes, because if you want to hide something, it’d be probably harder to find if you take it possibly far from home. Still, very random. My brain simply needed some explanation for it. But… let’s say that Ryusaki was half-Japanese, half-Welsh. He spent most of his life in Japan. However, once he needed to hide his Dark Scroll, he decided to turn to the other side of his ancestry and come to Britain. Maybe? I think it does make some sense.
I’m not holding my breath that it’ll be addressed, but if Ryusaki was created by the original team (and I’d say he was), it’s quite possible they put more thought into it.
Brother, Mentor and Sparrow!! (and happy late birthday!!)
(thank you!!!!)
Brother; Being almost 7 years apart, Birdie and Logan’s relationship has fluctuated wildly throughout the years, but no matter what happened, they still had love in their heart for the other. In their early childhood, they were the best of friends in a typical rambunctious sibling way, back when their family was whole...
They would get into mischief and play outside, read books to eachother and play music and sing together (as their parents were very musical folk that passed down their talents to their children). Often, Birdie would watch as Logan played the guitar or the lute on late sunny afternoons in the palace gardens, drinking lemonade provided by Jasper, who would look on with a smile. Logan was fiercely protective of his younger sister, a trait that would continue on, if in less obvious ways, for the rest of his life.
Unfortunately, things wouldn’t be quite so happy for long. After Sparrow’s death, 11 year old Logan, who idolized and was quite close with his father, drew into himself. Now that his mother Naomie was ruling until he was old enough to take the throne, he was thrown deeply into kingly preparations and work, leaving 5 year old Birdie alone in the palace most of the time, sometimes causing trouble just to try to get his attention (very Frozen). Music no longer echoed through the halls of Bowerstone Castle.
They still loved eachother very much, but as time went on the two grew more and more distant, and eventually Birdie gave up trying to get her brother’s attention, finding a friend in a young boy named Elliot, and Logan fell deeper and deeper into his work, becoming king at age 15 following his mother’s untimely death.
The two were quite distant going into Birdie’s teenage years, with Logan being far too busy with his duties and Birdie going through a rebellious phase- Logan knew the importance of appearances and would occasionally criticize her on her slacker behavior, to which she would amplify that behavior, which drove even more of a wedge between the two. But the two would still occasionally joke when they got the time, enjoying the precious few moments of downtime.
Then, after encountering the Crawler in Aurora, Logan became paranoid and irritable, and their tense interactions became far more frequent as Birdie continued to hang around Elliot and began repeating his progressive beliefs. This all culminated in, as you know, the Choice Logan offers, trying to prove to her that life isn’t always so easy or black and white. Birdie wasn’t able to do the greater good, and picked Elliot to live. Birdie would hold this grudge for the rest of her life, and we all know what came next.
All this being said, Birdie still chose to spare her brother at the end. He was her family and she knew he had good in him, she knew what the Crawler could do to your mind at this point and she wanted to move forward with him in her life. I like to imagine in my mind that Logan was more present with the preparations going forward like he was originally supposed to be. I also like to think that she kept him as an advisor, and their relationship became warmer from there eventually getting into more of a lighthearted rapport, despite all that had happened.
She ended up pushing him out of the castle to start his own life somewhere, but that’s a story for a fanficiton i will never write another time :)
Mentor; Walter WAS Birdie’s father, and that’s the full and honest truth. Birdie never really knew Sparrow, and Walter was always there for her, to comfort her and to train her and to have fun with her. He was where she got a lot of her wise-cracking behavior from, and the two were the closest they could be- Birdie idolized him like no other.
She always tried to do right by Walter, but being a bit of a spoiled brat especially at first, she made a wealth of selfish or irresponsible decisions that Walter disapproved of. In Shadelight, Birdie tried to brush off Walter’s fears just as he was doing, but was inwardly quite nervous the entire time. After he was blinded, she absolutely refused to abandon Walter, even trying for a moment to drag him, holding back burning tears, and the trek through the desert was one of the most miserable moments of her life.
Killing Walter may have taken the cake on that, however. He will never stop being her hero for as long as she lives, and the only reason she was able to negotiate her feelings of guilt and grief was by thinking of what Walter would do- and what he would say. Walter was her father.
It’s a funny story really, because Freya’s sire managed to hide his appearance from her for about a month.
To understand how Freya was turned, you need to understand Icarus. Icarus was a cleopatra, beautiful and vain, but also an accomplished painter. He caught the Nosferatu’s eyes fairly quickly after doing nothing but selling paintings of himself and was visited one night by a Nosferatu vampire.
After his embrace he faked his own death and spent a time in seclusion, away from any prying eyes including other kindred. He destroyed any type of mirrors or reflective surfaces in his home ashamed and horrified of his appearance. But despite it all, he still continued as an artist. But with the massive change in his un-life, he wanted to study a new kind of art. And so like the inspired and not exactly subtle person he was, he wrapped himself in bandages, put on a trench coat, and applied to a university.
Long story short, he met Freya at the same uni, the two hit it off and eventually became friends. He then made another stupid decision that would cost him his un-life. He decided that immortality would be lonely if he didn’t have someone to bounce artistic ideas off and so one night he told her he wanted to show her something and well, you know the rest.
🖤 How do they feel about being turned? (How did they adjust? Do they feel differently now than they did when they were first turned?)
