Twisted Wonderland: NRC Boys Egocentrism Tier List
So, a while ago, I saw this post and I made a comment about how I wanted the shared flaw of RSA's students to be excessive selflessness or sense of duty to serve as a foil with the shared flaw of NRC's students being egocentrism.
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This got me thinking, and I ended up making a tier list based on how egocentric I consider each NRC student to be or how they act when their egocentric sides take over.
While egocentrism is mostly associated with selfishness and a lack of empathy, by definition, egocentrism is simply a difficulty in perceiving and understanding another's perspective. Thus, being ignorant of or refusing to see another's perspective is also a form of egocentrism, even if it comes from something not inherently selfish, like insecurity. Keep in mind that I'm including everything I remember about the character, especially their lowest/worst moments, but I may make mistakes. I'm also only using story details up to book 7.
Explaining some of the less obvious choices:
Silver: Resigning yourself to darkness because you think your family and closest friends will hate you for something out of your control is NOT healthy at all.
Ortho: I know I'm probably going to get flak for putting Ortho so high, but accepting an offer to start the apocalypse from something you know is dangerous because you think it will bring your older brother happiness is DEFINITELY problematic. At least Ortho is otherwise mostly very chill and sweet. (I think the Shroud brothers regularly dox people they get mad at, though?)
Kalim: Another one I'm probably going to get flak for. After all. he's so cheerful and positive, right? But that's the thing: it's TOXIC positivity. It's a mental shield Kalim puts up in order to repress his trauma from the countless times he got kidnapped, nearly assassinated, or worse growing up. It also causes him to be less sensitive towards others' feelings, as shown with how he never actually thought about his relationship with Jamil from Jamil's end until Jamil's Overblot.
Vil: I'd say that Vil is mostly pretty chill, if not snooty, but it's the side of him during him during book 5 that puts him in toxic. Tampering with people's snacks, yelling at them for making mistakes, and not making an effort to help them understand your point of view is an easy way to antagonize your teammates.
If you have any other questions or want to give your own opinions, feel free to leave them in the comments!
You know a trend noticed: gay men will just be absolute besties with women, but hate the shit out of straight cis men.
Ya know what's even funnier? If the TWST boys are just nice/polite/very respectful to the disney princesses but the second an RSA counterpart gets within a two mile radius there's a fucking manhunt.
Also my theory is that all the gays end up at NRC while all the straights or stuck in the closet go to RSA.
It's just like this:
NRC with princesses: oh dear oh dear gorgeous
NRC with male counterparts: you fucking donkey!
Well who is gay or not is up to the viewers eyes (although I do think Cater and Trey are great together)
Also do I sense a Gorden Ramsey reference 🤔
So when it comes to the princesses they try to be polite to them considerung they are royalty and they dont wanna be rude to people who are historical figures.
I think about every Disney Character is a historical figure in TWST, but that is just my opinion
But when it comes to RSA.....yeah they are not so friendly or atleast more passive aggressive, due to losing against them at every event
The RSA boys are almost completely oblivious to it
Yuu is pretty much neutral about it. They are nice to the princesses and nice to the RSA boys, because honestly they dont care for their rivaly.
Its their fault if they cant change their strategy and work together to win 🙄
Finally, a day off for the houswardens. The sun is shining and the weather is warm. A list of errands rests in their pockets as they, willingly or unwillingly depending on the person, head out to complete the tasks. They decide to walk either due to weather or "it is faster this way". They turn the corner to spot Yuu... who is being (uncomfortably) hit on by someone.
Please tell me:
1) How they intitally react to the sight.
2) What they proceed to do.
3) How they comfort Yuu.
4) On a scale of 1 to 10 (one lowest, ten highest) how likely is this person going into a trap?
Thank you so much for this ask, friend! I love talking about our Saw AU together :)
I received clarification from @kimium that I am other characters within the different houses may be included as well💜 So I will likely include them in parts of the answers, but I will group them by their housewardens.
Riddle Rosehearts:
How they initially react:
Riddle is surprised initially. Not because Yuu is being hit on, because he thinks they are absolutely a 10/10 on the scale, but at the audacity of a person to make Yuu so uncomfortable. His first instinct, once he recovers, is to shout at them to stop.
2. What they proceed to do:
Riddle starts a long ramble about the appropriateness of hitting on someone, on the reading of body language and cues when engaging in flirty conduct, and the importance of "No means No". He literally steps between Yuu and this person just so he can launch into a terrifyingly long rant. It's so long that by the end of it the person bothering Yuu is on their knees with tears in their eyes, apologizing and pleading for forgiveness if only to get Riddle to stop talking.
3. How they comfort Yuu:
Riddle takes Yuu out for tea after; making sure he takes them specifically to Trey's bakery for treats on the way home. He shoots off a message to Trey on the way and by the time they get there Trey has an entire basket full of all Yuu's favourites. Cater shows up and brings Yuu on an outing to see some sights and walk together. He takes many photos. Ace and Deuce round off the day with video games and movie night!
4. Will the person end up in a Saw trap:
Not this time, but they're on thin ice. Riddle likes to bide by the rules, though, and since the person apologized after his long scolding, he lets them go. But, he keeps tabs on them. Ace and Deuce tail the person at least once a week for two months to make sure they don't chase after Yuu anymore; and if they do then the directions are to take them immediately to Riddle.
Leona Kingscholar:
How they initially react:
Leona. Is. Pissed. I mean, really, how many times does Yuu have to say "no, thank you" before that idiot gets the point? He's got his death-glare on in seconds.
What they proceed to do:
Leona slips an arm around Yuu's shoulders and tells the person to "fuck off". When the person gets upset and acts indignant, Leona, who is barely keeping in mind that he's a prince so it would be troublesome to get in a fight, picks Yuu up potato-sack style and carries them away. He ignores the person calling after them.
How they comfort Yuu:
Leona decides to forgo the rest of his activities for the day (read: he gives his list of things To Do to Ruggie, who ropes Jack into helping him) and brings Yuu to his place. He was planning on just taking a nap together, but alas...Cheka is there! So, Cheka gets to braid Yuu's hair while Leona rests his head in Yuu's lap. (Ruggie is cranky af when he gets back and finds out Leona passed off the list to him for this. He wants to spend time with Yuu too.)
Will the person end up in a Saw trap:
Yeah, absolutely. Leona knows John has this whole "it can't be personal" thing going on, so he's careful. He has Ruggie and Jack dig up whatever dirt they can on the person and uses that to build his case so he can get the greenlight from Jigsaw. The instant it's approved he goes "perfect, because I literally have the person in the trap right now".
Azul Ashengrotto:
How they initially react:
He doesn't lose his smile, though his eyes become icy. Jade and Floyd are with him (because of course they are; those three are rarely apart). Jade manages to keep his cool just as well as Azul, but Floyd is chomping at the bit for Murder.
What they proceed to do:
Jade has to restrain Floyd with an iron grip on his shoulder. Azul is the one who slides in smoothly, interrupting the person hitting on Yuu, and claiming he needs Yuu for some Lounge-related things. He whisks Yuu away.
How they comfort Yuu:
They bring Yuu to their home. Floyd latches onto them as soon as they're through the door and Is Not letting go. Jade makes some tea and Azul manages to navigate Yuu (with Floyd attached) to the couch so the three of them can spoil Yuu with tea, snacks, and chat with them.
Will the person end up in a Saw trap:
This isn't even a question, in Azul's mind. The person will end up there, he will see to it. Rather than have Floyd and Jade dig up existing dirt, the three of them orchestrate a scenario that will pressure the person into acting horribly in public, to guarantee they can trap them. Then, they swoop in a day or two afterward and snatch them off to the trap, ahahaha.
Kalim Al Asim:
How they initially react:
Kalim is surprised, much like Riddle, that someone would be so obtuse and rude as to hit on someone who is clearly uncomfortable. Jamil is less surprised, but just as annoyed.
What they proceed to do:
Kalim interrupts them loudly and invites Yuu to go with him. He's apologizing to the stranger, but only for the sake of appearing innocent. At one point, it looks like the stranger might actually put up a fight, but Jamil glares at them from over Kalim's shoulder and they suddenly feel Very Afraid.
How they comfort Yuu:
Kalim suggests Yuu join them! They're going to a trade discussion, and then afterward to a fancy dinner with some of their business partners. Yuu accepts the invitation (after being reassured it would not be a problem) and Jamil fires off a text requesting an outfit be prepared and ready for Yuu as soon as they reach their destination.
Will the person end up in a Saw trap:
No. Much as Kalim loves and adores Yuu, he is very hesitant to put people into traps, especially based on just one interaction. He does not put the person in a trap. Jamil keeps tabs on the person afterward, just in case. If they fall off the wagon, he'll put them in a trap. If not, he will respect Kalim's decision and leadership and let them be. But that doesn't mean he won't keep watching.
Vil Schoenheit:
How they initially react:
Vil is immediately annoyed and protective. He clocks the situation faster than even Rook does (let's be honest, Vil's been through this himself) and is at Yuu's side immediately.
What they proceed to do:
Vil manages to politely excuse Yuu from the situation and scoop them away. Rook joins him on Yuu's other side to help shield them from onlookers and ease their embarrassment. Vil does have to warn Epel not to engage the person in a fight, because he is more than ready to do so. Epel listens because he would much rather be around Yuu anyway.
How they comfort Yuu:
Impromptu shopping trip! And a stop at one of Rook's favourite cafes. Yuu gets treated to a delicious snack and tries on some very lovely outfits. They have no idea that when they return home, each thing they tried on that was up to Vil's standards will be ordered and arrives within a few days.
Will the person end up in a Saw trap:
Not yet. Vil wants to, very much so, which is a shock to even Rook because Vil usually tries to wait until someone shows they are absolutely too far gone before resorting to a trap. But, this time, Vil really wants that person to pay for upsetting Yuu. However, he's not stupid and doesn't want to break his usual way of doing things because he's aware that lashing out at anyone and everyone who upsets him could trigger Jigsaw to put him (back*) in a trap himself and Vil does not want to relive that...
Idia Shroud:
How they initially react:
Idia is shy, that much does not change. He gets shocked because he wasn't expecting to see this, and it takes him a second to get his brain back online. However, when he does, he manages to separate Yuu from the person hitting on them.
What they proceed to do:
Idia shouts at them. He actually yells. His hair is flaming and orange and he's standing between Yuu and the stranger to protect Yuu while he yells at the stranger. That is, until his burst of courage runs out. Then, he grabs Yuu's hand and bolts down the street to an arcade or internet cafe. He calls Ortho to come help, mostly as a reflex because the situation is over, and his brother arrives shortly after.
How they comfort Yuu:
Idia and Ortho take Yuu to play video games in the arcade. Yuu has a lot of fun, and Idia wins them ALL the stuffed toys from the claw machine. They can't see over the pile of prizes in their arms. Idia and Ortho completely clean house and Yuu's discomfort goes away entirely as they giggle and get spoiled by the brothers.
Will the person end up in a Saw trap:
No. Idia doesn't think they even deserve to be in one of his traps. His traps are too good for them, and he doesn't think they deserve the chance at salvation through a series of tests. No, instead, he doxxed them and dropped all the info on public forums full of eager social justice warriors, using an anonymous account and stating the person harasses people. The stranger never stood a chance. Idia does not let up and repeatedly finds their info over and over no matter where they move to or what job/university they change to. They had to get plastic surgery in order to go out in public again...
Malleus Draconia:
How they initially react:
Malleus's first instinct is to bundle Yuu up and whisk them away; and he would except Yuu has specifically asked him to please not do that sort of thing, especially in public.
What they proceed to do:
He comes over with a deadly smile and gently asks if Yuu is alright. To Yuu, the smile is innocent and kind. To the stranger harassing Yuu, it is deadly and cold. He invites Yuu to come with him, and since Yuu knows how important invitations are to their dear Hornton, they gladly accept.
How they comfort Yuu:
Malleus brings Yuu to his home. He offers them tea, snacks (not made by Lilia) and takes them for a walk around the grounds. He points out the architecture, especially the gargoyles, and takes them through a little garden that is full of gorgeous roses. Even when he is called away for official business, he requests Sebek and Silver accompany Yuu and keep them entertained.
Will the person end up in a Saw trap:
Yup. To Malleus, there is no sin more cardinal than upsetting Yuu. John can't even argue with him. He doesn't really try to. Malleus is gonna do what he wants, and John just kind of sits in the corner and throws his hands in the air like the "I guess" meme. (John isn't too annoyed. He thinks Yuu is nice and wants to protect them, too. He just wishes Malleus would at least try to find a little more dirt on the person before jumping to Saw Trap Time).
*According to Saw Lore: there are copy-cats, who may not have had to suffer through traps, but anyone who is a Jigsaw Apprentice has been through and survived their own Saw trap. Not every survivor is an apprentice, but every apprentice has been a survivor. Since we pretty much decided in our text messages previously that the Housewardens and their assistants are apprentices, I am treating them as such in my answers. Note that I doubt Jigsaw would put Vil back in a trap, but Vil strikes me as the cautious type so I think he would always keep that in the back of his mind, as there is precedence for this.
Hope you enjoyed these answers! I had a lot of fun writing them. Let me know what you think of them!!!
It would be interested everyone in House of Mouse learned about Twisted Wonderland. Imagine Yuu brought photo book filled with photo when they spent time in Twisted Wonderland event to show their adventure
Mickey see photo book that Yuu holding: What's that?
Yuu: Oh! It's the photo I take picture when we having great worst time in Twisted Wonderland for memory collection. You wanna see it?
Mickey being curious: .... Sure
Yuu began show the photo of spending time in world of Twisted Wonderland and tell story about it NRC cast pray that Yuu didn't take something embarrassing moment about them.
Oh that would be really cool!
Yuu showing them photos of these memories and the photos moving is such a cool idea. Especially since so the people from the house of mouse can see how the events looked like.
However....that was one of the photo albums Yuu had and this one was for nice and sweet memories.
The real embarassing photos are in another album hidden by Yuu
So the NRC cast are sorta heard but also not.
Ace: I'm just really glad there are no embarssing photos of us 😮💨
Yuu: You guys were pretty nervous were you?
Epel: Ofcourse we were
Jack:......wait didn't you took a photo from when Ace, Deuce and Grim when they had the anemons?
Yuu: well...
Deuce: Wait are you implying.....?
Yuu: 🙂
Sebek: HUMAN YOU BETTER NOT TELL US THAT YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT ALBUM WITH EMBARASSING PHOTOS OF US! 😡
Yuu shouldn't blame others in the 2nd Halloween given that they went along with Malleus's plans that almost got everyone an heart attack.
Yuu: Seriously, can we just have a normal Halloween?
Ace: Not our faults and besides, you went along the 2nd Halloween incident. I haven't forgotten on how we were possessed including me.
Floyd and Leona: A wonderful experience *Smirk*
Well yes they did went along with Malleu's plan on giving the ghosts a Halloween party and invinting the others to celebrate aswell.
However they didn't got told that Malleus and Lilia were to straight up kidnap some students and let some ghosts posses them. They thought those two were to invite the students with those inventation cards as shown in the event.
It was only after they and Grim stopped the fighting and saw the distress of the students that made them realize how they actually got into the spectral dimension.
And Yuu was *not* amused in the slightest. They literally berated Malleus and Lilia on how dangerous and messed up it was to kidnap some students amd let ghosts posses them and making tje other students worry about them.
It the end the party went good, but Yuu was sorta in the same mood as Ace.
So yeah they agreed to Malleus plan but were pissed off at the way he "invited" the students
The Teachers after getting to know Wednesday!Yuu a bit more
Crewel (Proud Father): She’s at that special age where there’s only one thing on her mind
NRC Students (Hopeful): …Boys?
Wednesday!Yuu: Homicide
Look me into my eyes and tell me the Teachers wouldn’t watch her like a proud father/uncles/mother/grandfather as she scares off any potential suitors with her…tools
One thing, apart from magic and emotional repression, that all of NRC shared was their pridefulness.
Be is so that they don't ask for help for said emotional problems, that they show off their magic at every opportunity and how smart they are or just something as simple as continuing to open a jar without help despite struggling measurably. They were all prideful I one way or another.
And this pride was especially in effect when it came to a certain, heart eyed Heartstaybul little shit with his pretty pouty lips, rose cheeks, lightly tanned skin and gorgeous body. Yep. For as long as they live, the NRC students will absolutely refuse to acknowledge the feelings they hold for a certain Ace Trappola
