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Hello, I was wondering if there might be any Irish-speaking dirtlings? My next tattoo is going to use ogham script to spell out from eden. In fitting with the theme, I'd like to translate from eden into Irish, but the various translators I've found have come up with different answers.
ó Éidin (from Google Translate)
Ó Éidin
Ó Eden
I was wondering if any of you guys might know enough to be able to help me figure out which one is correct? With Ogham script I think capitalization matters less, so it's more of the spelling issues I'm worried about.
Thanks, -Reid
Aisling - Dream, Hope, Fantasy
Dóchas - Hope
Ogham symbols resources: Iphin (thorn/pine)
Iphin symbolism - Living library blog
Celtic Ogham Alphabet Symbols
Ogham Symbols And Meanings - Thrive On News Library
Ogham Staves 101
The Ogham Stones of Wales
Feel free to add more!
Got some nifty ogham script done yesterday. "I will take what is mine"
What am I doing?
@sanerontheinside so I just went looking for stuff on written celtic language and holy hells, I just realised something fascinating about HP and JK’s use of Runes
In Britain we had Ogham, which is a precursor Celtic script which was used between the 1st century BC and 9th century AD in Briton. Though there’s a general belief it was used between the 4th and 10th century AD.
If Morgan was born around the end of the 10th century, or became known by this point, then it’s entirely conceivable that the language of Runes for her would have been Ogham. And likely most of her spells and works would have been written in Ogham, not the Elder Futhark runic alphabet JK uses in the Harry Potter universe.
The Elder Futhark runic alphabet was commonly used between the 2nd and 8th century AD.
On the Pottermore site it says that Merlin used a ‘mysterious rune’ to mark his belongings. Since, according to JK, Merlin was born like 10 years after Morgan, it’s entirely possibly that the runic language he used was in fact Ogham script.
On top of all that, Ogham is called the “tree alphabet” and is actually used in modern-day Wicca (my mam has a set of Wicca cards with the alphabet on it, but interestingly it’s never actually called Ogham).
Since I mentioned before that the wizarding world is easily 200 years behind the muggle world, what makes it interesting is that this script is known in the muggleworld but, most likely, not in the wizarding. It’s likely been forgotten. So it’s entirely possible that the could be elements of conspiracy and such for why it’s not the ‘Ancient Rune’ language used in Harry Potter or Wizarding Britain.
We’ve already discussed the very real likelihood that Morgan le Fay was the victim of a smear campaign due to the schism but what if we were to take it further and suggest that the smear campaign extended to all Celtic magical practices and the language used by Celtic magical users?
It would make sense why the Ogham script became virtually unknown in the magical world, why Merlin used a ‘mysterious rune’ on his belongings, and even why the Elder Futhark runic alphabet became the language of Ancient Runes in the wizarding world.
I’m turning Harry Potter in a huge magical conspiracy/cover-up and it’s all your fault omg
Irish ninth century copy of a Latin grammar, the Institutiones grammaticae by Priscian (c. 500), contains alongside the usual prayers and complaints a curious marginal gloss in ogham script.
It translates to: “Massive hangover”.