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ourprolifegeneration replied to your post “lov3for3va reblogged your post and added:People are so ignorant it’s...”

Nah, it's pretty pro-abortion, because it ignores the choice of one of two humans involved. It's about as pro-choice as being pro-murder is being pro-choice.

I checked out your blog and noticed that your bio said you promote pro-life values through love and understanding. Do you really think calling a group of people who are trying to protect women’s bodily autonomy murderers is the best way to do that?

Pro-life/pro-choice fundamentally disagree on what constitutes a person with rights. We don’t think a zygote should have more say over a woman’s body than she does. From what I can tell pro-lifers think life begins at conception, when the person in question is a tiny bundle of cells. So from your standpoint it’s murder, from ours it’s not. That’s a tough one for you to get around emotionally, which I do understand.

Is there not a hierarchy of autonomy, there? Why should the embryo get more say than the woman who actually has to carry it?

I have literally never in my life met a pro-choice advocate who didn’t think abortions were sad and unfortunate. No one likes getting one. But carrying a baby to term, even if you don’t plan to keep it, will dramatically change your life, affecting your work, your relationships, your health, mental and physical. It takes a massive toll on a person, and I guess I don’t believe that sticking a pregnancy and childbirth on a person as a punishment for getting pregnant is appropriate or humane.

Pro-abortion would be telling anyone who gets pregnant and is unsure about whether they want the baby to have an abortion. That’s not what pro-choice is. We simply want women to have access to all their options, to make sure they are informed and can make that decision in a space where they are not being pressured or called murderers. We don’t want people to get abortions, we want them to have the option if they consider it the best choice of action.

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ourprolifegeneration replied to your post “I hope you never have to watch, in real time, your right to control...”

You know what’s really, really sad? I thought for a brief second that this had to do with the people being killed in abortion. But it only has to do with someone who thinks they should have the right to kill someone else who has done nothing wrong. I'm glad you'll never be killed simply for being inconvenient for someone else, because that's what happens to millions under politicians like Clinton.

my dude there are... so many things i could launch into to try to make you understand my position, but perhaps the most effective one is that nobody is pro-abortion. i’m not even pro-abortion. it’s called being pro-choice because i’m not arrogant enough to believe that my own personal beliefs about whatever the spark of creation and human consciousness is, and my own beliefs about the human soul’s developmental timeline in relationship to the physical realities of, in most cases, a non-self-aware, physically unable to survive outside the womb bundle of cells, should have any influence whatsoever over what you are allowed to belief and how that belief should influence your healthcare decisions.

some people are Jehovah’s Witnesses who are deeply, religiously, and morally opposed to blood transfusion, and some are Christian Scientists who believe that medical treatment interferes with prayer and faith as a method of saving lives and curing illnesses. They have a right to believe that and I have a right to disagree with them.

I might easily make the argument that their misguided beliefs lead to the destruction of an innocent human life, but I don’t, because I believe that I do not have the right to impose my personal understandings of divinity and of science on other people who are grappling with their own understandings of spirituality, science, medical realities, and their own mortality to make some of the most difficult, personal decisions they will ever make. I do not believe that I or the government should be able to tell that person what they are and are not allowed to do when weighing their personal healthcare with their religious or personal beliefs and trying to come to terms with their choices and the possible consequences.

That’s very definition of being pro-choice. I believe in and will firmly fight for your right to run your blog and firmly, passionately stand for your convictions. I do not, however, believe that you should be involved in my own healthcare decisions. I have no idea what I would do if I became unexpectedly pregnant. I can tell you that I would be in one of the most gut-wrenching positions of my lifetime, and that I would not, in any capacity, take the choice lightly. But it is almost impressively arrogant for you to believe that your personal understanding of the beginning of spiritual, sentient, independent human life vs. the beginning of physical, potential, concrete medical facts human life should have iron-fisted, law-clad influence over that incredibly private, personal moment. I would not deign to express the same control over a Jehovah’s WItness about to die rather than receive a surgery because of their understanding of their religion as it relates to blood transfusion. I cannot begin to imagine that choice, and I believe it should be left to that patient, with all spiritual and medical options safely accessible.

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ourprolifegeneration answered your question “Question About Crisis Pregnancy Centers for Anyone Who Might Know?”

If it qualifies as a medical clinic (which it does if it's offering pap smears), it's fine? CPCs help tons of people, I'd recommend checking them out! They're chill non-profit pro-life organizations dedicated to helping women.

No offense, but I grew up practically raised in CPCs and they’re some of the biggest liars and bullies, both as institutions and individuals running it. Also, in case you missed my username, I’m a lesbian. So a CPC is my last resort for a bunch of reasons. But since the great state of Georgia defunded Planned Parenthood and the Medicaid expansion to fund CPCs, I don’t see much other choice. :(

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ourprolifegeneration replied to your post “Ignoring someone else’s wishes and forcing them to continue a...”

Ignoring the bodily autonomy of another human being and giving possession over their body to someone else is not pro-choice in any way.

Congrats, you’re right. Ignoring the bodily autonomy of another human bring and giving possession over their body to someone else is literally being pro-life. Forcing someone else to continue a pregnancy they don’t want to is violating their bodily autonomy and is definitely not pro-choice. And it is definitely unacceptable.

(Although I think you were probably trying to state that abortion violates a fetus’s bodily autonomy, which would be incorrect because a fetus doesn't HAVE bodily autonomy, you just ended up explaining what pro-choice means: allowing someone to have bodily autonomy and not letting it be violated by someone else because they and they alone are in possession of their body.)

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ourprolifegeneration replied to your post “captaindowhatiwant replied to your post “Just as you can’t be a good...”

It's interesting you're condemning someone who wants to protect the human rights of both parties involved in abortion while simultaneously claiming that you're the one who is supporting human rights... think of everyone, not just one party.

It’s interesting that you don’t realise how unintentionally ironic you’re being.

“ think of everyone, not just one party. “ lol

Think of everyone and not just the fetus, why don’t ya? You can’t “protect” the rights of the fetus without taking rights away from the pregnant person.

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In RE: To the Cal Zastrow post

ourprolifegeneration said: The wording is weird but I don’t understand why y;all are so mad at someone’s choice to not kill their kid. Or is it not a choice after all?

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“The wording is weird...”

The wording is racist. The wording is ignorant. The wording is condescending.

Their choice on reproductive matters is up to the patient and the patient alone. Cal’s interpretation of it is endemic of the racism and islamophobia in the pro-life movement.

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