#packing ftm

[sapphuric-acid]

I've seen plenty of resources on where to get or make packers but not a single one has taught me how to not look stupid while trying to wear one

[starskipper]

making this another post just to get it out there and i really want to talk about someone with it

but one of the things thats getting to me now is that theres no real great solution to prosthetics in the pool, bath or sports, let me break this down.

the two types people use(or whats most recommended) are silicone and diys with fabric or yarn. silicone because its the only skin like material that can be properly sterilized and cleaned, it also lasts the longest and is the most realistic(thats if you get a silicone soft enough, if you have to powder it then its soft enough) it can be repaired too, with sil-poxy.(this is a toxic finicky chemical please dont attempt this without looking up proper safety guides first, i have explanations and guides on my blog in the masterlist) and theres adhesive to adhere it so you dont have to use straps or bras if thats not your thing(also lets you keep the prosthetic on while naked ei sleeping naked, showering if you have ph neutral body soap)

i got off topic uhhh im saying you cant bring them into bubblebaths or the pool becasue the liquid isnt ph neutral, bubblebaths arent ph neutral and neither is chlorine.

and then fabric/yarn diy type prosthetics (sidenote you can absolutely diy silicone, i want to make guides on this eventually) but you cant bring this into water either because it soaks up water like a sponge and the plush filling would mold and it would be a hassle to ring this out wash it dry it every single time you want a bath or shower or go to the pool or work out or do sports (i live near alot of water i know most people are in and out of it every day and thats not even counting showering every day having to wash and dry a prosthetic every single time would be a major waste of time)

anyway what im getting at is there needs to be a better way to do this ive tried some things, dried rice and beans mold and sprout, the pellets in stuffed animals give it a nice weight and are waterproof but are too heavy to fill a prosthetic completely and they dont have realistic give or squish, and moister wicking fabric still holds water, not in the fabric but in the prosthetic where the filling is trapping the water there.

what i ended up planning was using the mesh lining from swimming trunks as the outside fabric, a loofah as the inside plush for squish, and weighted beads just a little at the bottom to give it that realistic hang. but that way between the holes in the mesh and loofah it wont trap water, and the beads dont absorb water either. the loofah gives it realistic plush and the beads give it realistic weight. while the mesh outside layer makes it so the loofah isnt irritating any skin, its a barrier as much as it is an actual skin, and i have tested the beads are big enough to not fall through the mesh.

now i just need a loofah and swimming trunks to sacrifice for this, but i need to buy actual priority type things first so unfourtuneately actually testing all this will have to wait

but im excited!! i think i really found a solution!! this is a big deal!! now people can have something to work out in that wont deteriorate, trap sweat, trap water, and can handle not being in neutral ph! bubble baths, working out, water sports, showers, pools, ocean, surfing, canoeing, whatever!!

also all the patterns in case anyone wanted to make this before me or just make fabric, crochet, knitted, prosthetics in general the patterns are linked and free on my masterlist, packer and breast forms.

i think the only maybe difficult part would be learning to stitch through mesh

[the-t-boy-king]

Tips from your trans big brother: Packing

Alright homies, it's time for packer talk. A quick trigger warning. Most packers look like penises. If you don't want to hear about that, keep on moving. Please take care of yourself and I hope you will have a nice day/night! Packer talk under the cut.

So what is packing? Packing is when a trans man, (such as myself) or a trans masculine person uses something like padding or a packer to make a bulge in their pants. Some people use it as a way to fight bottom dysphoria, others use it to help pass, and there are many reasons why someone might want to pack.

There are 3 types of packers based on what they are used for. I'll run through them right now and I'll give recommendations and leave links for them. I'll then go over packing gear. Buckle up homies, it's going to be a long post.

Soft Packers

To start with we have soft packers. It's a packer that is made to look like you have a bulge in your pants. It can't be used for anything else. Soft packers are normally made with two types of material: elastomer/thermal gel and silicone.

Elastomer/thermal gel. This type of material is very soft and squishy. It's not very durable. It can tear easily and you can't really sanitize it the normal way ie with boiling water because it will melt.

People who have sensitive skin can break out due to the material so it's not recommended to wear it against the body without a barrier for long periods of time. You can use packing underwear or a packing pouch to keep a barrier between the packer and your skin. You also have to powder it so it's not sticky.

Silicone is more durable, firmer and less stretchy, and will last you a lifetime if you handle it with care. These are a lot easier to clean and sanitize since for the most part you can run them through the dishwasher or boil it in water (unless the company you get it from tells you otherwise that is).

For soft packers I recommend there are two. The 1st one is a Mr.Limpy . It's made of the elastomer material, but it is a great way to test to see if packing is something you want to do. The second one I recommend is the Classic Silicone packer from AXOLOM. I just got it a few days ago and I already love it. It bends down itself so it makes packing so much easier.

STPs packers

Stand to pee, or STPs are just as the name implies. It's a packer that helps people to stand to pee. These can help trans guys who have dysphoria when it comes to sitting to pee. It can also help them feel safer in the men's bathroom. STPs are hollow, a bowl at the end, and a shaft to pee with. Often you can use a STP both for packing and peeing but some are better than others. Packing with these can be a bit harder since they are firmer. It's because they can keep their shape when peeing.

These are made of silicone, and since you are using them to pee with, you need to sanitize them so you don't give yourself a UTI. When using a STP for the 1st time, I recommend starting in the shower 1st naked then slowly moving up to using a toilets/ urinals because trust me, you'll pee on yourself.

STPs are harder to recommend since everyone is built differently when it comes to where your urethra is and how fast you pee. Hell, I haven't fully mastered my own STPs. However, I have a STP Freely from Transguy Supply and I've been getting better at it.

Pack and Play Packers

Pack and play packers are packers that can be used for sex. You can often find 3 in 1 which is packer, STP and play. It mostly comes down to if your packer comes with a rod that can be put inside of your packer to make it stiff enough to penetrate. I haven't used one yet so I can't recommend one but you can use STP Freely as a pack and play as long as you buy the rod that goes in it.

Packing Gear

Packing gear is a thing that are made to make packing easier. There are 3 many types: packing underwear, packing harness and packing pouch. These are thing that will hold your packer in place and prevent it from falling out of your pants.

With packing underwear there's two types. Normal packing underwear that comes with a built in pouch that will hold the packer in your underwear. STP underwear is made with STPs in mind. They come with a O ring that'll hold the shaft in place when peeing and come with a button fly you can open so you can pee.

I personally use the Sport Packing Pouch. It's a pouch you put your packer in and pin to your underwear to keep in place. As for STP underwear I use the Cake Bandit underwear. Keep in mind that packing underwear is expensive. However you can make your own by sewing a pouch into underwear you already have.

So that's about it when it comes to packing. Packers come in all shapes and sizes, so it's up to you how big you want your dummy peen to be. Keep in mind that most cis guys' penises are about 3-4 inch when soft so you don't have to use a 8 inch packer. Bigger is not always better. Packing is a deeply personal thing so do whatever feel right to you. Good luck on your packing journey!

With love, Miles, your trans older brother.

[leckmeinestiefel]

I packed with a pair of socks and it made me horny

Okay then

[tis-i-espresso-magpie]

packing’s all fun and games ‘till your cat tries to steal your dick

[newarked]

Real Talk does anyone know if there are any european companies that sell STP packers? i’ve been doing research an all i can find us american companies and i’m so fucking tired of buying stuff from the US cuz they can never seem to figure out how to get their stuff through customs without me having to take a day off work so i can go pick up my stuff from the customs office.

[selfmademen]

Hi yes I’m I have no idea how to wear my packer/stp. Like I’ve tried wearing it so I can just take it out and pee and that was uncomfy, I tried wearing it as just a packer but it looks like I constantly have an erection. I had to fold it and use a rubber band to keep it folded because it’s so weird, any help??

I don’t pack myself personally so I don’t have much advice to offer unfortunately. What I can say though is that if you know the brand and model there’ll likely be plenty of videos on youtube about how to pack properly with that make. From what I know it’s more difficult to pack with a 2in1 stp/packer as the stp needs to be a little more rigid. You can get some that are more realistic but they’re a lot more expensive. Chase Ross on youtube does reviews of packers and stps and how best to use them if you want to check his channel out.

Rodeohs sells packing boxers, and I believe FtM Essential’s sells harnesses designed to hold the packer in place.

[the-t-boy-king]

STP Tips from your trans big brother

Hey ya'll. I thought I should share some STP tips I have learned over the last couple of months I learned while trying to use my own STP.

Quick trigger warning: I will be showing actual pictures of the STPs I use and they are prosthetic penises so they will look like a penis. If you're uncomfortable with that, please keep scrolling.

So I use a STP Freely and the XL version of it from Tansguy supply Is pictured here:

This one is the uncut version. The shaft is about 4 inches long from the top, 3 inches from the bottom, inside the cup is 3.5 inches, and outside is 4 inches.

This is the Freely XL cut version. The shaft is 5 inches from the top,4.5 inches from the bottom, inside the cup is 3.5 inches, and the outer cup is 4 inches.

Tips for beginners

I'm going to be upfront and say that I'm still learning myself. I have peed with a few times successfully at home. I have not taken it in public yet nor have I used the STP boxers I got yet. . However, I have learned a lot from my trial and error and I want to pass those onto y'all.

To start with, try to find your urethra. I know it can be hard for some due to dysphoria but if you can, try to find it. Knowing where it is can be a big help. When you do find it, try to place the STP in a position where you will being peeing into the shaft rather then the funnel. The shaft is what your aiming for, the funnel is there to catch any pee that doesn't go down the shaft. If your position is too high, it'll spill over the top and the sides, if too low it'll spill from the back. Try to control how fast you're peeing. If you pee too fast, it'll fill up and spill. On some of them, you can cut the hole in which the peeing goes through bigger. The Freely XL has a bigger pee hole so if you pee fast, the XL might help.

I highly recommend starting in the shower naked because you'll pee on yourself and it's a pain to have to keep changing your pants and underwear. Make sure the water is off so you can feel where you're spilling from. Plus it's easier to clean up the mess since you just have to turn on the water. Once you feel confident in peeing the shower, you can move to the toilet naked. You should have a towel down in case you pee on yourself and the floor. Once you got it naked. Try it with boxers. Try to have ones that open in the front so you can poke the shaft through. Again, once you got it with boxers, try wearing both boxers and pants.

Once you're ready to go in public, try to wear dark pants in case you make a mess. Dark pants are the best at hiding wet spots. Also drink lots of water because it will dilute your pee and make it smell less like pee. In public you can start in a stall and work your way up to a urinal.

Packing with STP

STPs can be harder to pack with since they are stiffer than soft packers so they can hold their shape when you need to pee. There's a few ways to pack. I'll add a picture of the different packing ways but I'll also explain them. These apply to both soft packers and STPs.

Packing down is where you take the shaft of the STP and put it down over the balls. This way makes the biggest bulge so unless you're trying to make it really noticeable, i don't recommend this one.

Packing up is where you take the shaft and put it straight up. This way makes the bulge more manageable, but it can be a bit uncomfortable depending on what pants you're wearing.

Packing left/right is taking the shaft and putting it along your hip. I have never done this style, so I can't say if it's good or not.

You can use normal underwear with STPs, but they have to be tight to keep the packing position. I recommend get STP underwear because they have an o-right to keep the STP in place.

Cleaning

You want to keep STPs clean since you can get a UTI from it, and it can start to smell bad fast. If you're able, give it a quick rinse in the sink. If not, use toilet paper to get the outside and possibly the inside of it dry. You can put it on the top rack of your dishwasher or boil it to sanitize it. You can also use hot water and mild soap to clean it.

That's all the tips I know and learned from others. Good luck and happy pissing!

With love, Miles, your trans big brother.