#phfinale

[sossajes]

I can't eat! There's too many emotions!

Me

[sossajes]

He went on Kathie Lee & Hoda - he took his shirt off!- I know that that man is in the autumn of his life, but my God! when that linen came off, it sure felt like summer.

-Playing House, on Kenny Loggins

[ryoura]

I'm surprised no one's talking about Ada besides the Vincent/Ada sinking of 104. Ada was sent back to her present alone, not knowing what was going to happen to the people she'd left. Her uncle was murdered by her father, who was then killed by a Chain and died cursing her brother, who himself saved the world but never came back. She had three deaths to mourn, one of which had to be in secret, all on one horrible day; it's sad that all anyone seems to care about is her relationship with Vincent.

You are absolutely right; in the space of only 2 days or so Ada has lost all of her remaining family to the most horrendous circumstances… That page of her on Eques in 104 made my heart sink the first time I saw it and I couldn’t quite figure out why… but I think it is because in the pages before we had Barma and Sheryl, and Reim with Sharon (with Lily in the corner), but Ada is shown all on her own, with tears in her eyes… I like to think that Gilbert was there with her and that they supported one another in their losses, but even then we know he dedicates himself to Leo, so where does that leave Ada, but all alone? (Though I like to think she and Gilbert kept in contact over the years, like they did before). The poor girl… I like that she appeared to move on with her life though; I hope she found happiness!

To be fair to the fandom, though, as much as I like Ada her role within canon was pretty much for Vincent. From the moment she re-entered the series there was mention of her being in love with someone, and following Lutwidge we really only see her in relation to Vincent (save Oscar’s death, helping show that Zai wasn’t 100% evil, and saying ‘who cares?’ about Oz not being her father’s son and Gil and Vincent being Baskervilles). Even in the Finale she is only spoken about in relation to Vincent, no mention of how she reacted to Gil’s news about Oz, so I suppose it’s no surprise then that the fandom focuses on what we are given. I really wish there had been more moments between Ada and Oscar, or Gilbert, or Oz (I know this is my bias speaking up, but it still upsets me that the moment she was sent away in Retrace 102 and had that final farewell with Vincent, Oz already knew that either the world was going to end or he was going to die, and he missed out on his final chance to say a single thing to his sister), but overall she wasn’t central to their growth so we were never going to get it…

But I digress… Poor Ada went through so much and it is a shame her character revolved primarily around one relationship… but I suppose it’s up to the fans to give her a little more focus than the series was unable to give her ;w;

[ryoura]

I am glad I’m alone in the office ‘cause I just teared up listening to ‘I’ll Think of You’ in relation to Oz, Alice and Gilbert.

I always connected this song to the trio and liked to imagine them singing it together some lazy summer day (with Oz singing Sam’s parts and Gil as Kurt’s; Alice has to cover the two girls @w@). The message of always being together even when they are apart and even the ‘long and winding road’ reference just seemed so fitting, especially since I always kind of worried the series would end with the three of them unable to be together for one reason or another, so I thought this song was a little sad but sweet... Now, knowing the events of the series end, it actually fits a bit too well ;w; (Kurt’s part at 0:51-1:06 just made me think of Gil’s 100 years and how the memory of his friends would have helped him keep going ;w;).

Ahhhh I have a problem but I don’t care TwT

[ryoura]

If the 100 year cycle is done and Oz and Alice are around fifteen when we meet them again, does that mean that Oscar, Break, Elliot, Echo and Noise have all been reincarnated around the same time? Omg its like every one of MochiJun's aus just became canon. The high school au's obvious, but maidora hearts would totally be a hilariously terrible historical reenactment their friends put on as a joke (and Oz, his humor fighting his desire for accuracy, finally sides with his friends).

If the 100 cycle is 100% accurate wouldn’t it mean Oz, Alice Oscar, Elliot, Break etc. are all teenagers now what??? XD I don’t image its that accurate but its a weird though! XD And I think the ‘dream’ at the start is 104 could be seen to support the idea that impossible AUs are possible and seeing as the cycle of rebirth goes to different times and endless worlds yup all AUs are canon in some universe pfft :P

... Okay that is kind of hilarious and adorable to imagine oh my god XD;;; Just imagining Oz feeling conflicted before giving in to crack and dragging Gil along with him PFFT class xDDD

[ryoura]

historical reenactment omg how weird. like even if their houses don't become museums they shaped that country's history so much they're all probably in history books. i know they told the public that oz died on his fifteenth birthday (elliot says that anyways) but if the four dukedoms got punished for their behavior and pandora pulled apart they mustve found out the truth somehow. so maybe they did tell them about oz and alice and what they did. Id be a nice contrast to jacks fake hero status.

Can you imagine??? Oz would look so natural in the costumes though :P

I wonder what would have happened to the houses… some would probably be for tours but some could have been taken over by other families or re-purposed for other uses. I do wonder how much was revealed following these events though… The Crown MUST have known about Abyss and Chains, even if the general populous didn’t, which allowed the creation of Pandora and the granting of power to the Dukes after the Tragedy. By the look of it the Chains probably only attacked in Sabrie so they could potentially make a cover up, but the powers were still stripped from the Dukedom. Maybe they made up a reason to cover up Abyss? 

It would be nice if, even if most people didn’t know, there was some kind of record about what really happened in the end. Gilbert probably has it, but I wonder if the Crown knows… It’s interesting to ponder~ (Though yaaaaa the public was told Oz died/disappeared and 10 years later when earthquakes have started across the land Pandora issue an announcement saying that Oz Vessalius is the cause of it and people will get a reward if he’s handed over how did that work exactly how did people react? XD;;;)

[ryoura]

anguria17 replied to your post “If PH's cultural timeline mimics Europe (as it seems to), Oz and Alice...”

Omg I actually roleplayed a modern au where they're all reincarnated and all the mansions are museums and stuff, I should draw something from that òwò/ I 'd write a fanfic too, but I don't know if I can properly write it in English çwç

Ooooh that would be so fun to see! *^* I wish you luck if you decide to write or draw anything, it would be great to see peoples interpretations of what happens after the story! :D

Imagine the trio seeing their former homes like that though... would be so strange for them if they had all their memories back @w@

[ryoura]

Thanks for the detailed summary! That's pretty much what I surmised. With the way the chapter is, it appeared as if EVERYONE DIED ALL AT ONCE but that's not the case so that's a little more comforting, I guess. ;_; I'm just sad at the thought that everyone's period of reincarnation/life are not aligned (make sense?), so there's never going to be a period when they can all be together at the same time ugh. I JUST WANT THEM ALL TOGETHER AGAIN, ALIVE OR IN THE AFTERLIFE. :'( So I'm happy and sad.

I feel the same way, I was really worried by Gil’s words that he’d be following after Vincent soon; if he dies now there is pretty much no way that he, Oz and Alice will ever be in the same time together again ;A; So I choose to believe he will live out the length of their lives and they can all be together again… in every lifetime ;w; This is ignoring the fact the group will never be back together unless there are a number of tragically short or incredibly long lifetimes to match them up… It’s sad but I suppose we should be thankful at least the trio got to meet again!