#pro itachi

[maricacarica]

[comikas-fandom-dump]

Saying "Itachi is the main culprit of the massacre" is actually such a pro-Konoha take. Like, what. You're telling me that Konoha not only succeeded in its efforts to groom and frame a child for the ethnic genocide of his own people, but you also bought their propaganda that it was all his fault?

[itachis-eyes]

Sasuke Every Day Until He's Freed From Tree Prison: Being pressured to enact genocide to possibly prevent a world war? Root Leaders HATE this one trick: just say no!

January 7th, 2025

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[theheirofthesharingan]

The reason most of the discourse on Itachi makes little sense is because how severely lacking it is in empathy for him and his circumstances. A child soldier, grew up with nothing but watching violence and death in his short life, abandoned by his own family in favour of a political cause, naive and emotionally abused by the adults, then used by both the sides for their own gain without his well being in their minds — why does he always make the disastrous decisions? Must be because he's evil and not influenced by the circumstances. Labeling him evil to prove your moral superiority is not cute.

[sadlittleratboy]

On Sasuke and Itachi

It kind of makes me rabid when people say Itachi "loved" Sasuke, as if his entire motivation isn't love and was instead something else. Itachi's motivation is entirely Sasuke and his safety, and Itachi had a lot of ideas about what would make him happy too, and I love that. Itachi is HORRIBLY flawed, but to say he didn't love Sasuke is weird. You can love someone and hurt them. You can love someone and be abusive to them in the same breath, ESPECIALLY when you think you're doing the right thing. I know a lot of people think Itachi's og motivations were retconned (I actually think this could be true myself), but then they use that to dismiss the story in front of us. To be honest Itachi is extremely parentified. Itachi sacrifices everything for Sasuke in the same way a parent should, and he's seen taking care of Sasuke constantly when they're younger. He worries about Sasuke's wellbeing, picks up on things their father doesn't, and even puts Fugaku in the position of having to go to Sasuke's graduation by saying he wasn't going to go on an important mission with the intent of making Fugaku say he would go instead, because Itachi knew what that meant to Sasuke. Despite Itachi's mission and intentions we even see him stop putting on his act of being disgusted with the clan AND apologize specifically because Sasuke called out to him and begged him to stop (I suppose there are a lot of ways to interpret the scene, but I do think it rings as Itachi honestly backing down because of Sasuke).

Itachi is almost yandere in his love for Sasuke (something Sasuke actually also echoes near the end of Shippuden; these two are so unhealthy about each other), and he truly thinks what he's doing is to Sasuke's benefit. Itachi's decisions are informed by the propaganda he bought into as a young child (Konoha good, the few for the many), and the trauma he suffered (war bad, he doesn't want Sasuke to have to suffer that too). Itachi also values human life in a very utilitarian manner, so to him he should make the decision that does the greatest amount of good, even if that decision is fucking horrific. I love that about him. I love that he's doing his best and his best is awful. I saw a post once saying that Itachi didn't think like a Hokage at a young age, he thought like what Danzo's idea of a Hokage was. I understand what this post was trying to say, but I disagree. Even Tsunade was extremely utilitarian and would sacrifice the few for the many, every Hokage was like this. Whether you think this is right or wrong (it is wrong) this is accurate to the way a Hokage is expected to think, and that's exactly how Itachi is.

As a Sasuke fan first and an Itachi fan second he does drive me crazy at times. Saying Sasuke is a blank canvas that can be painted any color was wrong. Sasuke made decisions Itachi didn't anticipate, and some of the decisions Sasuke made that Itachi was so unsure of only happened BECAUSE Sasuke learned the truth. Itachi had Shisui's eye implanted into Naruto, and it would activate when it came into contact with Itachi's eyes. Itachi did this because he "knew" Sasuke would want to take his eyes, because it's hi had been guiding Sasuke to want his eyes, but Sasuke ONLY did that after learning the truth. In fact, Sasuke didn't even take Itachi's eyes immediately; Sasuke didn't want Itachi's eyes until he started to really break down, and by that point he was basically blind and out of options anyway. Sasuke's initial plans were to hunt down the only other person who awakened the Mangekyou and kill them. Sasuke didn't want Itachi's power, he wanted to be better than that. Sasuke valued human life in a very Kantian manner, and he only ever killed two people on purpose until his breakdown started.

Sasuke is a very emotional character, and god help him the poor kid was never NOT being manipulated by at least one person, sometimes two to three. Sasuke has the worst luck of anyone in Naruto. Every time something starts going well for him it goes worse. He's his father's least favorite child, his entire clan is killed, he's put on a team with a teacher that doesn't teach and two of the academy's lowest performers (Sakura was only ever good at theory), and he has to basically carry this team, he nearly dies in the land of waves, nearly dies in the chunin exams like twice (and gets shit for trying to keep the other to alive), he gets the curse mark, and then Itachi shows up and ruins all of the healing Sasuke has done, traumatizes him, and Sasuke is put in a coma only to wake up feeling weak and behind, have his teacher invalidate his trauma, and then learn his curse mark WILL get worse and he kinda HAS to go to Orochimaru. AND THAT'S ONLY PART ONE. Sasuke held himself together so fucking well that by the time he went apeshit I was totally with him.

So yeah, Itachi was a big part of that problem, it's even hinted at in Shippuden that Itachi may have been using Orochimaru to get Sasuke stronger (making Sasuke strong enough to protect himself was one of Itachi's ultimate goals), and we all know the imagery associated with Orochimaru and Sasuke hint at something very dark (whether it took place or not). Itachi was constantly fucking up. His fear of Sasuke being hurt drove him to abuse and traumatize the person he loved most (as we know the road hell is paved with good intentions), but in the end Itachi apologized and changed (as shown by him finally telling Sasuke the entire truth, including about Shisui's eyes, a thing Sasuke probably never would have found out if Itachi didn't say something, like he fully could have lied by omission here and gotten away with it). Itachi also didn't expect Sasuke to forgive him. Whether that seems like enough to y'all, it makes sense to me that Sasuke forgave him. As someone who also forgave and abusive family member who loved me and tried their (very bad) best, an apology can mean the world, despite some of the absolutely rancid shit they did to you, as long as it's paired with genuine change. It's up to the abused whether they forgive their abuser, and Sasuke chose to. Sasuke chose to understand the intention behind Itachi's actions, and he decided that the intention meant more to him than the outcome. Very sweet, but I think he should have gotten to whack Itachi at least once (as a treat).

Anyway I'm not sure any of this was coherent, but I love the Uchiha brothers. Their relationship is so complex and difficult and INSANE. They're codependent and overly attached, and both of them base all of their motivations around each other. I love the way Sasuke echoes Itachi's words to Orochimaru ("Try all the jutsu you wish, but my eyes can see through all of them.") right at Orochimaru as well. I love the way that in their final fight death match they just have like a normal brother argument right in the middle of it (S: Didn't I tell you? You can use those eyes of yours all you want, but with just my hatred, I will turn illusion into reality. I: Turn illusion into reality, huh? Then allow me to throw those words right back at you.), and then some of their fighting literally just is a brother scrap match. I love the way they look alike and act alike, and I adore Sasuke tapping his own forehead with two fingers because he misses his brother just as much as I adore Itachi refusing to do that in their final talk and instead putting their foreheads together. I am rotating them in my brain and I want to chew on them.

I also love that Itachi is the number 1 sns shipper. Not a single Uchiha was straight and honestly? Good for them.

[calixaxton]

[shisuiuchiha]

I can't believe Naruto fans still fall prey to the "Uchiha curse of hatred" garbage that was perpetrated by Tobirama. Or at the very least took root from Tobirama. Uchiha racism at its finest. The Uchiha had every right to be angry at their treatment. It doesn't mean they are at heart an evil people. Give me a break come on.

The Uchiha did nothing wrong. You can fight me on that. Wanting to rebel against Konoha a much bigger threat than the Uchiha can ever be was never wrong. Don't come to me pointing fingers at the sharingan when Konoha is at the least a population of 50, 000 citizens and the Uchiha were at the most 500 citizens, only a few of who possessed the sharingan and even fewer possessed the mangekyo.

I will always be pro Uchiha and some of you need to revisit the manga. Misinformation and bias and favoritism is rampant in this fandom against my clan.

[beneaththecrowwings]

Itachi was never written as a character who glorifies violence or massacre. Instead, he represents a tragic choice made in a situation with no way out. Everyone agrees that the Uchiha massacre was a cruel and morally wrong act. But in the original manga, Kishimoto doesn’t simplify the issue, he shows that Itachi was cornered, with every path leading to tragedy.

At that point, Itachi had two clear choices:

1. Close his eyes and let the coup happen, dying alongside his clan and plunging the Hidden Leaf into civil war, possibly even triggering a Fourth Great Ninja War.

2. Accept the inevitable fate of the Uchiha’s downfall, side with the village, and personally carry out the mission in exchange for the life of Sasuke, the younger brother he loved more than anything.

No one denies that Itachi was the one who physically carried out the act, and that what he did was extreme and brutal. But if we’re going to talk about accountability, Itachi was merely the end result, the inevitable consequence of the darkness within both the Uchiha Clan and the leadership of the Leaf Village, and arguably even of the villagers themselves. He became the one to shoulder the consequences of everyone else’s failures.

So what truly deserves to be condemned?

First, the fact that a governing body could consider the complete annihilation of an entire group of people as a legitimate political solution. They even tasked a 13-year-old boy with murdering his own parents. Really? Even if, in the ninja world, a 13-year-old is considered mature, forcing a child to kill his own family in the name of “peace” is a cruelty that defies any moral boundary.

Second, the Uchiha Clan’s own blindness in how they handled the situation. Their desire to reclaim their rights after years of being monitored and marginalized was understandable. But their methods, their emotional, short-sighted political play, were anything but strategic. They placed their hopes on a 10-year-old child, expecting him to be the bridge to a successful coup. And when Itachi refused to comply, they began to blame, distrust, and ostracize him. That wasn’t politics. That was desperation masked as ambition. They fixated so heavily on their own suffering that they ignored the pain of the rest of the village, many of whom had lost loved ones in the Nine-Tails’ attack, which, notably, was orchestrated by a fellow Uchiha. Moreover, there was little to no effort from the clan to seek dialogue or work toward reconciliation.

In the end, Itachi wasn’t just turned into a weapon by the government, he was also dehumanized by his own clan, used as a mere pawn on a political chessboard. He was never treated as a human being with feelings and limits, only as a “prodigy built to serve the ideals of adults.” And no one remembered he was just a child. That dehumanization eroded his emotional core early on, warping his sense of freedom and ideals. Later in life, that extreme worldview led him to impose unrealistic expectations on the very brother he loved and ultimately derailed Sasuke’s entire life path.