#pro-c

[villainous-collective]

had to do it to 'em

[camgario]

see, it's always this kind of essentialism that causes abuse dynamics. This assumption that minors are inherently fucking stupid, and could never internalize the concepts of informed consent. More than anything, we need to overhaul sex education completely to make sure that people know what they're getting into in a relationship.

Abuse happens not because of the inherent power adults have over children because they're such stupid little dumbos with small brains, but because people don't even bother to inform children on how a healthy relationship should be. They get caught in abusive cycles due to the system of learned people constantly hiding their knowledge from the youth because apparently it will "taint them forever".

Minors need to learn how to solidify their boundaries, how to communicate about issues in the relationship, ect. But because no one is talking to them about this shit, and just assuming minors are these inherently asexual beings, abuse continues to happen. Because abuse is the process of taking advantage of a lack of knowledge.

Also for fuck sake if they are a victim of abuse, do not treat them like THIS. THIS is fucking meanspirited as hell. You are just as bad as the abusers if you are talking to minors like that after having been abused. Fuck off.

Stop treating minors like they are sub-human.

[rq-little-babyy]

What do you mean by complex contact?

i identify as comp-c for two reasons: i have different contact stances for different paraphilias, and i give more nuance to each than just "good" or "bad".

it means something different for everyone, but that's my short reasoning. more in-depth explanation under the cut.

chronophilias

chronophilias include any paraphilia that has to do with age, including infanto-, nepio-, pedo-, hebe-, ephebo-, teleio-, meso-, and gerantophilia. for chronophilias specifically, i think we should undermine chronological age and think solely on brain development. obviously, if a being's brain hasn't developed to the point that they can make a decision about consent, they should not be involved in any sexual or romantic activity. despite this, i wouldn't say "children can't consent," given there are plenty of chronological adults with fully developed brains that identify as children and have no problem with giving or denying consent. for this reason, i think the age of consent should be abolished, since there will always be a permainfant somewhere with a fully developed brain and they should not be denied romantic connection or physical pleasure due to their transage identity. we should always focus more on whether or not a being has the developmental capabilities to consent rather than an imaginary number, which i think is different for every being. at least in my opinion, some beings will be able to consent once they are chronologically teenagers, while some might not be able to until they are well past chrono20. it also depends on what their body can handle. for example, chronoteens have much smaller bodies compared to chronoadults, so even if both parties are able to give consent, there's still safety measures to make sure the smaller being isn't harmed. there's also the question of whether or not romantic map4aam relationships can be consensual, which i also believe is up to brain development. obviously, even in the case of a mature minor, there will always be an imbalanced power dynamic between a chronominor and chronoadult. because of this, i think it's very important for map4aam relationships to be clear-cut with well-discussed boundaries, guidelines, and safety precautions. within today's society, i absolutely would not encourage chronominors and chronoadults to have any kind of romantic or sexual relationship, but i think if the future truly is radqueer and we add youth liberation to go along with it, it could be just fine with proper safety.

zoophilia

like i said with transage beings and chronophilias, there are bodily humans that identify as animals. that being said, obviously humans and transdogs can have a consensual relationship, but what about bodily humans and bodily animals? in my opinion, it is harder to get an animal's consent since they cannot verbally give it, but there's still signs that an animal consents. for example, at least for sex, if you stick your pelvis in the air and an animal willingly humps you, it is obviously consensual. if an animal comes to you first, like a dog humping your leg, it is obviously consensual. however, even if the animal does give consent, if they try to get away or express pain of any kind, it is your responsibility to immediately move away. you can tell if an animal consents, and you can tell if an animal withdrawals said consent. if your partner expresses pain or the want to get away, you get off. and, like i said with chronominors, some animals will be harmed by penetration, so it is extremely important to research your partner's species and what could harm them beforehand. if you do intend on having sexual relations with an animal, always prioritize the animal's consent and safety. for romantic zoophilic contact, it's the same for me as asking an animal for permission to pet them. reach your hand out, and if they comes to you, pet them. if you want a kiss, don't just press your lips against them, put your face by them and wait for them to come to you.

necrophilia

this one is simpler, in my opinion. if a being consented to you having sex/a relationship with their corpse before they died, it is okay. if they did not give explicit consent, it is not okay. there's also the case of transdead beings, in which they can just give or deny consent.

consang

i honestly see nothing wrong with sexual/romantic relationships between family members, as long as everyone involved has the brain development to be able to consent. though, i wouldn't encourage reproducing. i still think everyone has the right to their own bodies, so if a consanguinamorous couple wants to have a baby, i think they should be allowed to, even if i'm personally against it. saying they should absolutely be forbidden from procreation is eugenics.

biastophilia

genuine rape is immediately a no. i do not support ANYTHING non-consensual. however, for roleplay like cnc or non-con in fiction, i think it's perfectly okay to indulge, as long as there is no genuine sexual assault.

if there's a different paraphilia anyone would like me to cover my contact stance on, feel free to ask. i enjoy ranting like this.

[gyaruogutz]

Ur a xenosatanist?

If so how do you feel about like. Contact stances n such

My beliefs align best with the redefined terms of xenosatanism updated in 2024 (linked here.)

I’m complex-c in the way that I would be pro-c in an ideal world— I do not support abusing children or animals in this worldwide society where children are unaware and uninformed; and where people are against and uninformed about animal liberation. I will not touch, and therefore harm, any child or an animal because of this.

So yes— I lean mostly towards pro-c; but I’m comp-c. I think all contact stances are valid and I follow the core belief of being radqueer— anti-harassment.

I have a post defining my stance a little further from a while ago. I won’t fuck you up unless and until you unconsentualy abuse me, or mine— that’s my harassment stance. If you DO: I will kill you. And that’s not just an empty threat.

[k-p-p-d]

Fact: Pro-C got me fxxked up.

–Lily, who cannot believe Buf spat bars a capella & Moos actually growled at me like this disrespect has to end

[villainous-collective]

genuine question but why are you pro contact and anti recovery ?

TLDR; What other people do is none of my or your business, platonormativity exists and it's ass, and I would fistfight a therapist behind Denny's.

1) Assuming contact refers to romantic and sexual; I am repulsed aplatonic. Aside from me personally being unable give a fuck about people in a way that isn't romantic, I cannot comprehend why platonicity is considered inherently more pure and wholesome compared to the other two most recognized attractions, but from my POV a lot of it is platoninormativity, purity culture, and ageism. Platoninormativity is obvious. It wouldn't be considered weird to be friends with your nephew for example. People think intergenerational friendships are important. Meanwhile romance and sex are put on this double edged pedestal where they're both more intimate and "dangerous". Purity culture is sex after marriage and kink bad. Ageism it that romantic contact with youth is viewed with derision because they're seen as less than a person. How could a child have anything to offer in a relationship? Obviously they're just being used for sex. And sex being devalued like that is again, due to it's own multifaceted placing on normativity pedestal. I'm pro-consent and actually comp-c (not pro-c in all situations), but also what other people do with their lives is none of my fucking business and I know that if I had a shot with an older person I'd pursue it no matter what, so 🤷

Also adults should have no fucking say if children can consent or no.

obligatory "but power imbalance?" regardless of age, if I moved in with someone they'd become my de-facto caretaker because I'm disabled and struggle to care for myself. also I'm autistic and can't tell for shit when people lie to me. Does that mean people with physical and/or mental conditions shouldn't date or can't consent? No.

2) recovery is an inherently flawed and subjective concept when it comes to anything more complicated than a common flu, as well as carrying healthist undertones. Whether or not some being wants to recover, doesn't want to, or doesn't consider xyz thing something to recover from is no one else's business but theirs. Also, mental health professionals are pro-recovery, which is reason enough not to support that.