I know that there is a lot of young people in the mcyt fandom, who have not developed and learned how to pick apart texts and notice specific things in them yet. So, because of recent stuff and the words "boundaries", "rules" and "censorship" being thrown around like candy, here's someone who has these skills (me) going through Millkberrys and Pyroscythes statements.
(TW for death, rape and sa threats, mention of sh and harassment, use of the r-slur)
First off, the actual official definitions of the words:
(The first one is from wikipedia, the other two from the Cambridge dictionary, you can look them up if you'd like full confirmation on the sources.)
(notable, fan works such as fanart, fanfiction and headcanons or shitposts are considered a work of art and/or kind of communication with other fans.)
(notable #2, the ideas people are allowed to express and the certain ideas that are included or supported in this case is the shipping of the creators characters.)
(notable #3, content creators / mcyts are minor celebrities and with that have authority over their fan communitys. If you disagree, feel free to block me, I will not be arguing over this.)
And now, me marking/highligthing things in the statements that fit those definitions/descriptions:
What's a boundary or implies one is marked with green.
What's not a boundary is marked with yellow.
What's a rule or implies a rule is marked with blue.
What's censorship is marked red.
I want it to be noted that the only times boundaries are implied or mentioned by either of them, is the word, regarding that this is for Millkberrys mental health or when the actual act of setting boundaries is dismissed (as a past action or entirely).
This is not to mention Pyroscythes literal thread of harassment and policing people, which has already taken action through other fans putting death and rape threads in peoples ask boxes:
(If any of the victims of the threats want me to take them out of this, feel free to tell me and I will do so!)
Apparently one of Pyroscythes mods claimed on Twitter that it was meant as a joke. However, considering the very serious nature of both the stream segment and his expression as well as the fact that it came from a mod and Pyroscythe has yet to actually say anything on this themself, I'm inclined to not believe it.
Lastly, my opinion on this:
Harassment is never okay and no matter how many times these creators have said in the past that they don't endorse it, reality is looking different right now. You cannot tell your large audience what Pyroscythe has told his and expect it not to listen to you, no matter if it was meant as a joke or not.
This is not a boundary, it is a rule at minimum and censorship at worse. Censorship is rampant right now and fandom spaces are some of the few spaces that allow free expression, trying to take that away is not okay. If you cannot handle seeing ship content of your characters, then you should block people who do make art of it, block the shipping tags and not go out of your way to look for it. You can ask people not to show that art to you, and that is completely valid. It is also completely valid to ban people from Stream chats and discords if they do show it to you. It is not valid to tell people what kind of art they can and cannot create however. And if you can't handle the idea of ship content of your characters existing at all, then maybe you should rethink your career choice as a content creator who focuses on roleplay and character creation.
I need the mcyt fan space on Youtube to actually read through people's criticism of the whole "boundary" thing because how come every single person over there is calling us "whiny bitches" who "can't let go of their yaoi" and have to "learn to respect boundaries", while also not addressing the "little birds in all the forests, I have my people who will deal with repeat offenders in ways I deem appropriate" statement (that while apparently privately in a discord server has been addressed but not publicly so it's still out there for everyone to see and see as instruction to harass people) at all. I have also seen people complain that were calling "open discussions" and "reasonable arguments" harassment and "throwing around the term".
And seeing all of that...Do you guys actually read any of our posts?? Like it just sounds like you're listening to everything the creators have to say and don't care to hear us out?? So many of you are acting with so much moral high ground, claiming that it's important to respect creators boundaries. Which yes it is, no one is saying it isnt!! I have not seen a single person under the three major tags of this discussion say anything different! If you have feel free to put it in my ask box or dms, because I would love to see that to have evidence on all the sides!
What Pyroscythe and Millkberry put in place is, by definition, not a boundary, it is a rule at best and censorship at worst. Ihave a whole post about it if you care to see. Actually I would love for mcyt youtube fan community to read it! Because you know it also includes the "open discussions" and "reasonable arguments" (better known as death, sa and rape threats, calling people slurs and telling them to cut themsleves!!) that you claim aren't harassment. Which frankly if you actually looked at our arguments and posts you should absolutely know ARE harassment. And if you don't think so, the block button is right there! Feel free to use it!!
I need you guys to ACTUALLY hear us out and look up the definitions of the words boundary, rule and censorship, before acting like this.
im genuinely so tired of being the "smart student". getting good grades is great but for some reason it makes everyone think they can ask me questions that are clearly meant for a teacher. "which illness do you think is smartest to learn the most for finals" bitch idk i'm learning for the finals myself and also super busy with that.
it's worse when they then expect me to always answer and are UPSET when i don't have an answer. Bestie you aren't the only one studying for finals please leave me alone. Ive continuesly helped you and multiple other people over the course of the year, how about you do your thing alone for once, i've genuinely done all i can.
"how do you answer this question" we've talked about it multiple times in class, ypu should know.
"what will the teacher put in the final?" idk i'm not the teacher
"hey can you answer this question ive already asked three times and you've answered all those times?" no.
"hey i'm gonna spam you with lots of stuff, can you correct that and look if it's right for me? it's important for my finals" you mean our finals? The ones i also need to study for???
"hey-" PLEASE FOR MY SAKE SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LET ME STUDY IN PEACE.
The only reason the pronouns on most of my accounts say they/he instead of they/he/she is cause everyone uses she/her anyway 💀 Like including almost everyone i'm out to. None of these people know what preferred pronouns are i swear to fucking god. I went by they/them so long you'd think they'd not use solely she/her but NOPE lmao. They also still call me my deadname despite knowing my preferred one.💀💀💀 Its not like i don't remind them of the fact taht i'm trans all the damn time. Hell they remember that fact very well, when they can use it to make a joke but apparently can't when it comes to respecting my damn pronouns :/ They dont get she/her privileges until they use the rest of my pronouns properly.
Also none of them know I use neo-pronouns cause i'm still not 100% sure on them myself. Also I have no idea how they stand on neo-pronouns and i'm a whimp lmao