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[kfam-tea]

I started doing a full re-listen to King Falls AM last month and I am almost finished, I just wanted to ask, am I the only one who is disturbed by the way that Jacob Williams sexually harasses other men and no one says anything about it? The episode where Troy has both Jacob and the Dark in the back of his car, the Dark is begging move to the front seat to get away from Jacob and no one says anything? Meanwhile, if Chet or Lily say anything about Emily, Ben and Sammy immediately say something. It was just really uncomfortable to listen to everyone ignore serial harasser Jacob Williams.

No... no you are not. My friend and I were both grossed out by this. I think what makes it worse is it plays into the harmful stereotype that bisexual people are sexually promiscuous. Straight and gay relationships are played somewhat seriously and then the one bisexual character is a big joke. It's... not amazing.

I feel like if it was just Jacob and his beau being super sexual to each other and there being other bi representation it might be better. Because I will admit, The Dirt is fucking hilarious. But the sexual harassment? Not so much.

-RBPS

[kfam-tea]

Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i dont know if this account is still active but i just stumbled upon this podcast randomly and i was thinking abotu picking it up but then i found this blog . I dont mind that it never finished, but based on the few posts I skimmed it doesnt sound like getting into this podcast is worth it at all. do you think king falls am is any bit enjoyable at this point?

Hi, yes this blog is still active (horrifyingly might I add). But you just asked the most loaded question.

Now, I answered that in my post here. That was around January 2021 and while I updated at the bottom some of it stands and some of it has shifted a bit.

Obviously, it's up to you because it's not that easy. Sure there were a lot of shitty things, but after hundreds of audio dramas, it's still my favorite. But it's also unfinished, had some problematic creators, problematic themes (racism, homophobia, a horrifying about of holocaust jokes, etc), and was overall a shitshow. I also have a more complex con: there's a current lack of community. The show ended in 2020 and it's now 2023. There are a few active users (including me) but most people have moved on. You don't need a community to love a piece of media but it was definitely a big draw for most people. Even I have very fond memories of staying up until 3:00 am to catch the latest episode and blogging about it. Oh and the memes and the fanart. It made everything feel alive. And that's gone. Even the website's gone.

TDLR: If I had to really sum it up, I'd say to steer away from this podcast unless you're super curious and willing to get your heart broken.

-RBPS

PS: If you can't load links because Tumblr mobile sucks (I've had this issue for over a year now) and want to find the post go to @realbigpodcastslut and search "Should You Listen to King Falls AM" or something similar.

[kfam-tea]

I wish there was a support group for people that had to deal with the drama. I remember how KFAM and their discord mods turned us against each other... there's a lot of people I miss, and I want to forgive them, since we were the victims of the same manipulation and trauma. But it's hard, you know? They made us lose trust in each other so easily, Kyle (and Trent) just kept fanning those flames over and over again. It's hard to see the point when what brought us together also tore us apart.

Honestly, that's a great idea! Especially since they didn't just tear down the discord community, but Reddit and others. I don't doubt that a lot of people are craving that sense of community back. Since I'm one of the few blogs that still does KFAM stuff, I created a KFAM Support Group discord server here: https://discord.gg/dedg9tg7nu

It's pretty bare-bones for now, as I don't exactly have a ton of time to mod a server rn. But for now, I'd like to build a small community and try to undo a bit of the pain they caused (even if it isn't my responsibility). Any fan of the show is welcome to join, except Kyle Brown.

[kfam-tea]

So I once tried to make a Big Bang writing event for the podcast and took to twitter to drum up excitement for the event since I knew a lot of fans were on twitter and a few posts in Kyle responded with a gif of someone shaking their heads and making a "cut that out" motion with their hands. I replied asking if he thought this event wasnt a good idea and he responded with *another* gif of someone emphatically nodding. It was crushing. I just wanted to engage with other fans in a writing event, i never tagged the creators or anything like that. It was honestly soul crushing

Dear anon,

I'm very sorry for the very late response. I am also very sorry you had such a poor experience with Kyle. I know many people would have loved a Big Bang and probably joined (including me). I don't understand why Kyle disapproved, but I know he did have issues with people "using" his works. I'm rusty on the past details, but this fits with Kyle's personality. Hopefully, you have moved on and understand that Kyle was what led to the downfall of KFAM. Thank you for sharing!

[kfam-tea]

I atopped listening to kfam a while back because I really didn't like how they were treating Emily, but seeing Kyle complaining about the pandemic affecting the podcast is really just funny to me. I mean, a pot of podcasts are still in production or, at the very least, trying to get back into it. Like, Palimpsest just started s4 and night vale kept going through the whole thing (though I believe that's because they already don't use a atudio).

You’re absolutely correct! So many podcasts managed to get around the pandemic, especially since the audio medium is much more forgiving in not having many people in close contact. I know this pandemic has really taken away a lot of creativity and motivation too, so I understand those that haven’t been able to work on creative outlets, but I think Kyle was using it as an excuse.

KFAM was already on rocky ground, with Phase 2 not being as good as Phase 1, the plot moving slower, and the cracks starting to show in full. Not to mention, this was before the pandemic and to blame that on the pandemic is ridiculous. Then, KFAM’s problematic nature started to be dug up and criticized more, Kyle being hostile to people that criticized people online, and “creative” differences between Eric and Kyle. 

(This is unsupported but I think Eric talked to Kyle about the criticism and wanted to push the podcast in a more progressive way in response. Eric never was involved in drama over criticism and Kyle always shoves his ego first, so of course there were differences. That might’ve been the last straw. Again, this is speculation).

-RBPS

[kfam-tea]

i dropped kfam in 2016. god, our main complaints back then was that the cast wasn't credited and that they made a snide remark about tumblr. and wow, did this show keep digging! good on yall for sticking this long with them. i wouldn't have had the energy. god bless podcast fandom.

Hahaha, thank you! Your input really shows that KFAM wasn’t just suddenly problematic but rather has been for a long time and only got more problematic. Though, that somehow hasn’t stopped many of us for finding it as our comfort show (to our dismay). -RBPS

[kfam-tea]

Patreon Email Regarding New Podcast

Earlier today, an email from King Falls AM and Eric Kimelton was sent to Patreon supporters detailing the creation of a new improve podcast called “Improv on Tape”. Below is a discord message of the Patreon email for those not on the Patreon emailing list.

[ID: A discord message from Nutmeg detailing an email that says: “Hi there & Happy New Year! If you're receiving this, then at some point you've supported King Falls AM or some of the talented cast involved. If you haven't, then you're probably thoroughly confused right now. Many of the voices you've heard on King Falls AM over the years, like Noah James, Christopher Ninness, Mason Trueblood, Owen Virgin, Cameron Chambers, and myself, Eric Kimelton, all got together and decided to create a new podcast during Covid. What an original idea  I think there were more podcasts created in 2020 than children! We wanted to do something fun, weird, and funny, and that's how Improv On Tape was born. What's it about, you might you ask? It's pretty simple. It's an improv podcast where we retell your favorite books and classic literature through improv. It's like a book on tape and Who's Line Is It Anyway? In our first season, we're tackling Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Philosopher's Stone if you use the metric system). If you've ever thought about what it might be like to make fun of what J.K. Rowling has built, or if you just want a laugh, then this show is for you.”]

 The cast list is mostly composed of KFAM actors but there are a few missing (Trent Shumway and Kyle Brown). This is an interesting development considering KFAM is on a indefinite hiatus due to COVID-19. 

[kfam-tea]

Discord Book

Recently, it was brought to my attention about a project or book by the discord mods in order to thank the creators on KFAM in October of 2018. People submitted things about how the podcast meant so much to them and it was collected. Along with submissions, your were asked to give your full name, state, and country along and were also entered in a raffle for free merchandise (I think stickers). I took part of this and here is a screenshot of a discord mod asking me, a 16-year-old minor, for my information.

[ID: A discord conversation between a user listed as mod and another as Me or Skerivo:

Mod — 10/25/2018 Hey we are putting together a SECRET fan project for Eric and Kyle is it OK if we use your contest submission for the project? We loved it so much! If yes please send what name you would like credited and the State and or Country you are from. Thank you!

Skerivo/Me — 10/25/2018 Absolutely. If you want full name: (redacted) Thank you!

Mod— 10/25/2018 thank you so much youre awesome!

Skerivo/Me — 10/25/2018 Thank you! Have a great day. :)

Mod — 10/25/2018 you too!

end of ID]

While I think it was good-intentioned, it was not well thought-out. It is very suspicious to ask a minor for their full name and where they live. Being online with adults for a long time can lower someone's guard.

I don't know what else to add other than I know I'm not the only minor that participated. If you participated and have more info, don't be afraid to contact us. -RBPS