#rebelspies

[thecatsaesthetics]

rebelspies replied to your post “Adam Driver has said he sort of ships reyl0, which, ok I guess? It’s...”

He never said that or this site would have blown up with 10,000 posts about it. Lies...

It doesn’t even matter, Driver isn’t writing the script. 

[luminousfinn]

rebelspies replied to your post: Just finished the Guardian of the Whills novel and...

So the balance would be to find the middle ground would be to basically care but not fall into the selfish destructiveness of the dark side? I need to know what the force is gonna be, what the balance is and if it’s more than that what is it.

Okay, as I said I’d go into it deeper later because I need to get my thoughts a bit more clear, but what I see in new canon vs what I see fandom talk about (and that which is portrayed in old canon) is a conflation of balance with order. But they’re not the same thing.

Order is static, rigid and unmoving. It is also a system that is imposed from the outside and needs constant maintenance from the outside to be upheld as it is not natural.

Balance on the other hand is well... organic. It is flexible and shifting. And what is more, as long as it is not subjected to undue outside forces it is self sustaining. Though one part of the system might temporarily take on a dominance, the fact that it is a system in balance the other parts will soon rectify this and it will return to more of an equilibrium. This process is repeated ad infinitum.

Also, as I said, the Dark side is not really evil, nor is all destruction selfish. Yes it is - or seems to be - destructive as it seems to encompass things such as anger, but anger and the destruction it brings isn’t always a bad thing, isn’t always a selfish thing. Sometimes anger is a necessary catalyst for much needed change, such as the rightful anger in the face of injustice and oppression.

That is what I meant when I said that it seems that the Dark side is no longer evil and the Light no longer good. Because passivity and detachment in the face of oppression and injustice will, long and short term, can lead to as great evils as the destructiveness of the Dark side could.

I think that achieving balance would be to create - or rather recreate - a system that is self sustaining, that doesn’t superimpose an artificial structure on the Force or puts moral a judgement on Light and Dark, when neither is good or evil, but simply is. And when pulling on either, or both can lead to both good or evil depending on the wielder.

I think what might have happened is that the Jedi in their fear of the Sith, who qua their doctrine pulled almost exclusively on the Dark side, started fearing the Dark side itself and all the things that could lead to its use. I.e. espousing all passions and attachments. They superimposed a system on the Force that allowed only its Light to exist, but that’s not how the Force works or can work.

So the Force tried to rectify itself.

Did this have to lead to the destruction of the Jedi, over two decades of fascist dictatorship and who knows how many billions dead and far more suffering than we can understand? No, it didn’t. If the Jedi hadn’t been so afraid of the Dark side, if they had been more willing to change, if a gazillion different things had gone even slightly different than they did, then no.

But things went as they went. Because the Force itself needs the balance, it is both Light and Dark, it is peace and passion both, serenity and emotion, joy and anger. Sometimes joy and peace will dominate, sometimes the need for transition will take over and passion and even anger will take the fore for a while, only to shift back again once the need for transformation is past.

In other words, the Force needs balance, not order. Those two were never synonym with one another.

[notasithlord-blog]

I'm the girl in the movie theater poppin' out a bottle of champagne when it happens.

[prncefinn]

rebelspies replied to your post “all u rey skywalker ppl hopping on that article abt the old interview...”

If it's Finn who's the Skywalker the narrative already screwed and I'm pissed off. Why is rey gonna be trained as a Jedi when Finn is the true heir to the legacy? That would be bullshit and you know it.

big mood big mood but listen. if we’re talking ~~~“heir to the legacy” technically that includes leia, and yet she chooses not to train to be a jedi. just bc someones a skywalker doesnt mean they have to then become a jedi. just because reys fs doesnt mean shes a skywalker. plus theres no proof yet that finn wont be trained alongside rey after he’s finished healing/his adventure w rose is over. also like, my finn skywalker posts arent 100% serious i’m just throwing out Thoughts, i know Deep Down its not like ##confirmed to happen sadly. i’m curious how you’d think it’d screw with the established narrative to make finn a skywalker tho?

[carterhaughs]

rebelspies replied to your post “quick tlj thoughts: not enough finn in any of the promo material? or...”

The Skywalker saga is about the skywalkers tho. There are plenty of nobody protags to enjoy in the ST. Finn, Poe, now Rose. Like...

you can enjoy every movie focusing mainly on a skywalker protag if you want, I just find it boring. 

and by protag, I meant main character and focus of the story. I suppose I should elaborate and say I’d like backstory on Rey’s parents and on Finn’s and anyone else’s whose personal history isn’t known, but I would frankly find another main character being a Skywalker rather trite. I’d like some new narrative threads and new stories. that’s just how I feel about it. it’s a personal preference, and idk why you felt the need to comment on this when I didn’t tag it and you don’t follow me 

[thecatsaesthetics]

rebelspies replied to your post: What do you make of r*ylo's chemistry? Like I see...

They have good enemy chemistry that’s not romantic chemistry anon

I agree, I also think they could have good familial chemistry as well. 

I think people need to realize there are different types of chemistry. I don’t see much romantic/sexual chemistry, and I doubt they tested Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley for that. Actors specifically go through testing processes in order to make sure that the chemistry is right for the plot. The other actors that auditioned for Finn had to go through chemistry reads with Daisy. Which kind of tells you everything you need to know about how they expect you to read Finn and Rey. 

[notasithlord-blog]

I've been seeing reylos being pissed off because reysky's are calling kylo a secondary skywalker and how that is sexist against leia. But Leia never completely accepted her Skywalker identity anyway so why is it a disservice to Leia anyway?

Exactly. I don't deny that Leia is as much a Skywalker as Luke. But it is not a disservice to say that she has never wanted anything to do with the Skywalker legacy and no one an blame her after what Vader did. Either way even if she did, the Skywalker legacy doesn’t belong to Kylo either. He;s done nothing to undo Anakin’s sacrifice for his son. Rey by blood or not is more of a Skywalker than he’ll ever dream of being.   

[luminousfinn]

rebelspies replied to your post “I am dying for like a final episode viii scene of an unhinged arrogant...”

That twist would be worth the ticket price.

It’s a plot twist that might legitimately have me watch the movie more than once, even if it has nothing else, just for that.

Dammit, I cannot express enough how much I would love an unapologetic evil, chilling and arrogant Kylo Ren.