Hi, I have a question. What do you think Jays relationship to Superman should be?
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Hmm...Jay's relationship with Superman....
I'm kinda interpreting this to mean three things. Jay's relationship with Jon, Clark, and the idea of Superman itself.
Superman as a concept:
Jay's relationship with the idea of Superman is tied heavily with Jon. Initially, Jay viewed 'Superman' as a symbol of hope for Gamorra. In a more practical sense, he saw how influential Superman could be in garnering support for his country and thus sought his help to spread awareness. Jon was the only one who helped out of all the other heroes. So Superman became someone who went against the grain and could be trusted to give support regardless of his personal biases( *cough* Batman *cough*).
In present time, Jon did eventually fall back in line with how the JL worked and did not act like to he prioritized Jay or Gamorra. His constant suspicion and almost, surveillance of Jay broke a lot of the trust. Now, Superman is just the same as every other hero; there when convenient, gone when it isn't. I think Jay should have a .....business-like relationship with Superman for the immediate future. Enlist when necessary, not give too much responsibility and always keep Superman(be it Jon or Clark) at an arm's length.
Jon:
Oh Jonno......I think Jay's right to be mad. At this point I would like for Jay to stick to his initial instinct of getting away. His relationship with Jon should be one that is filled with pain and heartbreak, but also despite himself, love. The presence of the love only serves to worsen the pain because once upon a time, Jon was confident about choosing Jay no matter what. The love was there, but it wasn't enough, that old cliche.
Love doesn't immediately mean trust(even though it should). There's a lot of resentment there from Jay's end. For the immediate future, it's very tense and Jay's rather angry at him. But over time, with Jon making moves to mend their relationship and some proper communication, the pain eases.
I'm biased so I'm gonna say these two remain amicable exes or get back together when they're in their late 30s or 40s if they have to get back together. I'm split on them getting back together only because I think JayJon won't work if Jon keeps clinging to being Superman.
DC editorial won't let Jon break away from the liberal image of Superman. For marketing purposes and the brand of Superman, Jon HAS to be in-line with that milquetoast image. He's being rebranded as Tomorrow Man now but it's not because Jon's reflected on how he judged Jay and Nia for Secret Six, so I'm not counting it just yet. They're not gonna have Superman dating the guy who openly killed a bunch of U.S. soldiers and is a commentary on imperialism and genocide. Even self-defensive and retaliatory violence gets you put with the Suicide Squad, Authority and Secret Six kinda territory.
For them to work romantically, either Jon has to break away from Superfam as a character in-story, and as a brand, or Jay needs to be stripped of all his nuance and be punished by the narrative to fit the image.
So.....my secret agenda is pushing for another ship but this is about Jon so I'll end this by saying; Bitterness turned into warmth after they spend time apart reflecting on their actions and reconciling with better communication.
Clark:
Clark's complicated. Jay doesn't have a relationship with Clark, like at all. Lois is his go-to. Jon is the end of Superman that is capable of change and negotiation but Clark....not so much. He's always going to choose the Justice League, and he isn't going to directly intervene with Earth politics.
Firstly, editorial won't let him, but also as a character wrt Jay, it's implied he doesn't get involved with Gamorra because he doesn't feel like he's part of Earth. Clark thinks of Earth as home, but the world doesn't.
So Clark's reliable. Someone who Jay can predict and know won't actively cause damage, but he won't get too involved either. I think Clark understands Jay and empathizes with him so he's going to do his best to do damage control for Jay within the Justice League.
A distant but trustworthy relationship where there aren't any risks of betrayals or deep emotional hurt.
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