#ruby's mum

[insidebrianshead]

Not Pointing at Sutekh, but pointing at Ruby's name

[shewolfofvilnius]

no, I'm still heated about Empire of Death.

Because that scene in the TARDIS when Ruby Sunday has the gall, the audacity, six hours after meeting Louise in a coffee shop, to call her her "real mum" to The Doctor.

Beyond how utterly unrealistic this episode was relative to most adoptee-birth parents union, it's also a collosal and MASSIVE fuck you to Carla in particular (and Cherry in the home as well by proxy).

The sheer fucking audacity of Ruby the character and RTD as a writer...and this is a 'happy' ending? Are you fucking kidding me?

[deadorchidpetals]

Doctor who theory time kids.

So, as we know, Ruby's mother is an ordinary human. Nothing extraterrestrial or godly about her (unless we're being lied to, of course). But there's still so many questions unanswered, such as:

How come she can make it snow?

Why was Maestro so scared of her?

How did Ruby's DNA have no connection, whilst her mother was still living a normal life?

I present to you something so very simple that I have quite literally never seen talked about:

Who is Ruby Sunday's father?

I'm fairly certain that they just... Don't talk about him. Other than Kate mentioning his name and age, there's nothing. No photos, you don't see him, no real character or information about him. He could be literally anybody. They say right at the end of the last episode that they've found him, which opens up some intriguing possibilities. If we see him next series, which I suspect we might, is he going to be ordinary? Is he going to want anything to do with Ruby? Is he a regular human, or is he something else? Because everyone has been speculating on who her birth mother is, but pretty much all of those theories can be applied to her father. It's such a simple conclusion to make, but I haven't seen anything about it. That makes me think that there's something more that I've missed about who her father is, but I might not have so I'm posting this anyway.

Thanks for reading my rambling, if you did.

[fallenrocket]

A couple Ruby's Mum headcanons. Not the snow or 73 yards or anything like that. Just some non-sci-fi/supernatural stuff.

Ruby's mum has a tough home life. Her stepdad is "trouble." We don't know the exact specifics of that, but we know that she's scared and knows that she's not safe with him.

Like her future daughter, performing brings her solace, but while Ruby is a musician, she's a theatre kid. It keeps her out of the house for a few hours longer after school, and it allows her to spend time pretending to be somebody else, someone without a stepdad like hers.

When she gets pregnant at 15, she's terrified. Her overriding thoughts are, "I have to get out," and, "I have to get my baby away from him." She's so scared, she doesn't say anything to the baby's dad. She doesn't say anything that could possibly get back to her stepdad. There has to be no way for him to find her, no way for him to find the baby.

But she's not ready to be a mum. She doesn't know how, and besides, she's running away from home. Who knows what sort of living situation she'll find? But she can't be discovered. So she safeguards her baby in the most anonymous way her 15-year-old self can think of: leaves her on the church doorstep. That's what they do in the stories, right? The baby will be found there, will be safe, will be taken in. And she can get away.

She's been making this plan for a while, preparing for when the baby comes. She's walked by the church a few times. She's seen the CCTV. There can't be any trace of her, no way for him to find her.

So one day before school, she slips into the theatre department, roots through the old costumes. They have those long black cloaks from when they did Macbeth. When she puts it on, she checks in the mirror to make sure it covers her completely. She'll be able to carry the baby inside the cloak too--the baby will stay warm and hidden until the last possible moment, the last bit of protection she'll be able to offer as a mum.

When she gets to the church, all the camera will see is a black cloak. If anyone witnesses her, if one of the priests comes outside before she's gotten away, all they'll see is a black cloak.

It'll be the only description they have of her, and she can take it off as soon as she's out of sight. And then no one will recognize a thing.

She'll go as far as she can, hiding so he'll never find her. She'll start a new life. She'll change her name and get a fake ID. She'll avoid fingerprints and cheek swabs, anything that could be used to track her down. She'll disappear, and it'll be like she never existed.

She just has to leave a piece of her heart behind to do it.

[youcallyourselfafilmcritic]

"I don't understand-if she was an NHS worker how come it was so hard for your team to find her?"

"I'm going to be honest with you Ruby-we never looked"

[gutsofgold]

guys hear me out what if they take off ruby's mum's hood and it's just ruby underneath

[theplushiepup]

Let's Fix Ruby's Mom Reveal

Certainly! Here's the revised version and sorry imma read more this one.

UNIT finishes the scan and finds it empty. There is still no match in the database for the mother. Then the TARDIS emits a shuddering noise and all the screens flicker. Multiple screens pop up, searching through every time and place they've visited, scanning planets and realities they've traversed. The Doctor gasps, Ruby starts tearing up, Kate considers deadlocking her access points, and finally, the screen displays "MATCH FOUND." We see Ruby's face and then cut abruptly to the Cafe.

A blonde woman enters and stands in line, chatting on her phone with a friend about her life improving now compared to years ago with her abusive father. She vaguely details his actions and stops when she hints at giving up Ruby Sunday.

We watch her convey the pain with her expressions as she remembers. She reaches the counter after a young girl, whose face remains unseen—Almost insignificant. She orders her coffee, sits down at a table, and continues discussing an upcoming trip, mentioning someone like Rani or Sally Sparrow for a potential future coincidence.

As she taps on her phone, checking her text messages to pass the time (describe her briefly, mention social help lines), Ruby remains out of focus in the background. Finally, she looks up and sees Ruby staring at her. Confused, she asks, "Can I help you?"

Ruby replies, "Oh, sorry. I just… thought you looked like someone I once knew," then hesitates and starts to leave. The woman stops her, saying, "I don't know, but I get whatcha mean. You… come here often?"

"Oh yeah, used to pop round here every day!" Ruby answers. The woman replies, "Oh, yeah? Well same! Maybe that's how we know each other—from seeing each other here!" Ruby knows this isn't true but agrees verbally, "I guess so. Well, sorry to bother you," and tries to leave. As she turns, the barista calls out, "Ruby!" The woman freezes, and Ruby cringes as she grabs her coffee. Starting to leave, the woman softly says, "Ruby's such a pretty name," to which Ruby, as always, replies instantly, "Thanks, it's the road I was found on," the ladys eyes go wide and realizing she said too much. Ruby hurries away.

She runs to the Doctor, leaning on his TARDIS outside. She hugs him and cries; he returns the hug as he understands. He also had the opportunity for answers in FLUX but didn't follow through. It's hard to accept answers when questions have been your constant companions throughout life.

After this sad moment, a voice interrupts, "Excuse me." Ruby turns and sees the woman, nervous and fidgety, looking almost like an older Ruby Sunday. "That road you were left on… It wouldn't happen to have been… Ruby Road… would it?" Ruby hesitates but reluctantly nods, and they share an awkward moment, both tearing up. The Doctor beams his smug grin before leaning in and and saying, "This is the part where you two hug," pushing Ruby gently. The music swells as they embrace. We see him lean back happy as he adds in a whisper, "The foundling finally found. Coincidence, coincidence, coincidence," glancing briefly up at the sky with concern before smiling.

Fade to a later scene with the Doctor, the Sunday family, and Ruby's bio-mom. Carla asks, "So you're not a god or something?" The Doctor interjects, "Yeah, no, turns out… My old girl the looovely TARDIS eventually figured out about our little death doggo stowaway when I crashed near the edge of the universe. Turns out he was using all the noise and energy of the cosmos to cloak himself, but when you're at the edge of space, well... it's hard to hide in an empty room. Once she found that out, she kept trying to think of ways to warn us—groaning, planting a song in Ruby's core and using the excess energy from coffee and a lil' mavity mix up to try and burn him off her. When that didn't work she figured the only way she could help is by making a mystery the death god couldn't resist, extending her perception filter to Ruby's birth Mother on Christmas Night 2005. Which you should feel honored about, thousands of years and she's rarely ever done that."

Ruby nods but adds "But what about the pointing?" Her biological mother chuckles and nods "Oh I remember now. Yes.. Christmas night, I was giving away my baby and the faint song from the church had me questioning myself. But the strangest thing happened.. I heard this noise and a big box that wasn't there moments ago was suddenly fading into reality only a few meters away from me. I thought I was going mad! My tongue was tied and voice gone! All I could do was point. Put yourself in my shoes, I thought god himself had come to punish me for my actions... But he just stared me down crying.. I wondered why god would cry... How did my choice make him that sad?" The Doctor looks at her reflecting on the Sutekh conversation about being made the god of life. Her Mom continues "I think it's what pushed me. I had a life so sad that even god cried for me. I made a promise in that moment to leave and get out and maybe one day if my life ever got better... I'd find you again. So I turned and I walked away I made that decision to live the life I wanted you to have, Ruby, and I knew I made the right choice because when I turned back... That man and his box were gone."

"And here now here we are and for the record I'm really very glad that for once, just this one beautiful time… " the Doctor sits between Ruby and her bio-mom and hugs them both beaming "It was just a human." The episode continues from there as usual.

[maraune]

I’m not saying that ruby was the summer maiden and that ruby inherited her powers as she died but was too young so they lay dormant until now, courtesy to ozdin and the secret order of guradians

But hey, I’m saying ruby’s mum was summer