(Moving it here cause that post is already astronomically long.)
I wouldn't mind that either, rwby has alot to make up for in terms of world building. The tournament should of had ads, pyyhra fans statues of older hunters etc etc
Originally I was gonna wait till I was up to try and get a good rest and maybe hash my thoughts out a little more but now I’m wired and want to talk about something people seem to have issues with from perspectives given to me and my own.
So atlas is falling and originally I saw many different takes on it people outright saying they wish they die, people saying that because rich people reside on it they dont care and more oddly nuanced thought processes, now I use the word nuance cause I want to address a elephant in the room; when I say nuance or hell anything it isn’t instantly to try and insult another person, what’s nuanced to me is my own understanding on what level of discussion is brought to the table, as long as it’s interesting it’s nuanced to me. (and I’ll admit I should of explained it better but at the time I wanted to end it and sleep but I have a bad habit of adressing people who continue talking to me on this site cause sometimes I get weirdly invested thinking it’ll lead to something interesting; no that’s not a dig I just like talking about media.)
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Alot of people who know me or know of me will get this but I wanna clarify it for those who dont and this will also be a great post to point to in the future so I dont accidently burn more bridges, but also understand I’m used to dealing with snide assholes so what you view as sarcasm and harmless cause the people using it are either friends of yours so you dont care; or share your viewpoint so you dont care. either or alot of twitter racist idiots like to use this and alot of rwby stans are straight out stupid so dont try to be snide and quipy.
A close friend of mine told me about Atlas falling apparently the upper plate is going to fall on innocent people, honestly I couldn’t bring myself to care, but I asked her why she didn’t care the plate was gonna fall out of curiosity and the recent drama around this; she point out one of the biggest flaws in rwby that I found myself kinda nodding with. “Weather the plate falls or not I can’t find myself to care about the people in atlas because well...RWBY doesn’t make the background civilians feel real, the characters dont care so I start not to care as well.”
I brought up the last time I felt that was SU and Avatar, a show we could both talk about and know exactly what the other was talking about.
“Exactly! not to mention this isn’t like Avatar where you got to see background characters, live thrive and root for them, Beacon fell and we never saw people from there struggling to live or talking about being displaced etc; Team RWBY just walk away from major problems and we just assume their solved, no one mourns Leo? no family? friends? team? There’s never moments in nations that affect the civilians greatly; hell Oscar’s aunt doesn’t even factor in to his mental state or memories or anything.” Honestly she had a point and it kinda bugged me more cause I never thought of it; I quit vol 6 and the last thing I remembered was a town guard being ripped to shreds asking where cordova was.
To her it was just an artificial number of mannequins, it wasn’t black and white like “kill them” It was just “I dont care, the writing does them a diservice; RWBY doesn’t have so many “I dropped this.” “RWBY is bad.” videos for nothing, even fans can realize that to alot of them this is just emotional manipulation of the audience, and alot of them have better stances beyond “Just die.” “The writing just takes me out of the scene.” is much more interesting! And when I talked to alot of people about this they agreed, hell I even got some people to swtich their stances. But I’m losing the forest for the trees, back on topic.
Despite people standing outside including jaune’s sister and her wife and child Jaune doesn’t bring them up or worry as far as my friend and many other eagled eyed people have told me. My friend’s stance isn’t as simple as “let them all die” and yeah I can’t predict everyone’s mindset. (Surely some people think that way. But not all and if they conversation ends in “Yeah but some people think that way. Then the intrique and dicussion is fruitless.) I rather challenge a mindset into thinking about different prespectives than just go. “Well I guess we have to agree we have feelings on subject.” Like a robot.
Some people just dont care. MY theory about that and my personal reasoning for that is maybe people stopped caring cause either or RT is gonna destroy it and faceless people will die for angst but also it’s a poorly crafted narrative; Pyrrha died and people were like “well that was a thing.” Shock value doesn’t work on people anymore so people just roll their eyes and go “sure RT do what you gotta.” yeah maybe alot of people are like “eat the rich.” I can’t blame them, current events are wild man, and yeah they shouldn’t take it out on fictional characters but at the same time, they’re just that...fictional, someone saying “good let it fall.” isn’t a sign of how people’s perceptions of real life are, that’s ridiculous to think over a cartoon.
So that’s my stance and mine was also altered and challenged by talking to a person about it and not having their passive aggressive friends throw snide remarks and be allowed to while their friend preached for your respect.
The TLDR version is there are many nuanced, detailed and vast takes out there, try not to let it bother you, and using atlas citizens as an example doesn’t work if you use the racist; Be good to yourselves out there and others; don’t let your friends send death threats to anyone on anon.
Yeah the hound being a fox faunus makes perfect sense Due it being The fox and the hound but again i find it morbidly funny that They were ended by the Schnees
The fact that it makes sense to you, wasn’t my point. It's that after preaching about how it was ambitious they decided to use the marginalized people instead of a regular dog? Like they;ve yet to make a faunus that’s not shat on in some way or another.
All we get for faunus (the minorities of the series) are corpses, clowns and incompetents.
Lovely; feeling really represented here.
Also I’m not nor should you pretend it makes sense when Blake is both beauty and the beast.
Like the fox and the hound was about a real pair of animals not a minority on all fours.
[ This post is just a response, nothing of vaule if you want any r/wby critique.]
Alright let me try to make this as short as possible.
Miles and Kerry stated she’s Rapunzel, Long tower, long blonde hair honestly think they can drop the whole fairy tale allegory since they only apply skin deep to the characters mentioned and not all characters have them but that’s a completely separate post.
What I mean by spoiled rich girl is we like to talk about how blake is spoiled and privileged despite the poor writing, her parents and house just spawned and we’re supposed to pretend blake made up that she was “raised in the white fang” up despite the writers making it up as they go. Salem is living in a castle, she’s healthy, she’s not malnourished or underdressed. (FFS she has makeup on.) she has lavish decor, besides not being allowed outside she has everything which is why I think beyond going outside she’s never been told no so when the gods told her what's dead is dead she got pissy yelled at the first one then went behind his back and lied to the dark god.
That’s what the lie was. I don't even know why you jumped to such a bizarre conclusion, I was talking about the gods so clearly the lie would correlate with the previous sentence.
He father didn’t get physical, her father was a concept made to hold her in the house, but we never see or hear a protest of any kind,even when Ozma walked in her house there was barely any resistance and we never learn what her father thinks, who he is or why he didn’t allow her outside. Honestly he could have been replaced with a table and it would have the same effect of keeping her in.
As for the gods if we’re gonna talk about what the gods should of did (giving her hope is not the gods job especially when she stomped off in a tantrum, no amount of words will ever help when you know there’s a god within walking distance that can bring that person back. All that will matter to you or anyone in that instance is them being back.) If we’re gonna bring up what should of happened and been said, maybe salem should of had a horrified reaction to her friend being dusted, she literally swats at their dust like an annoying fly, she should have told the god the truth or even considered that it could be risky to go to the god of darkness for a deal, even a small throwaway line like “I can’t believe I’m doing this.”
Again we can’t hold omnipotent beings to the standards of humans for all you know they dont know how to comfort, we can make up loads of offscreen mishaps, yes they’re responsible (making her immotal as a punishment was stupid and weird. And if we wanted to sympathize with Salem more it would be interesting if she went to apologize after a time and they still went “lol no you’re still immortal.) but here’s the thing: So is Salem and everyone rather side juke the idea that she watched what I’m assuming were allies turn to dust and literally went “so what, I’ll just bring more people.” She’s equally as horrible but here’s the thing, we can hold her to human standards, no one told her to jump into the goo or to send people to their deaths, no one led her to do those, she walked there.
To be honest the god’s inclusions were stupid in the first place it robs the story of all character agency and turns it into “the whim of gods” Salem still has large ammounts of blood on her hand and the fact that people act like they simply didn’t see it so they can point the finger at gods while salem whined that she didn’t have more bodies to throw at them is scummy, shitty behavior on her part.
And I wanna stress this one more time I dont care what happens to the gods, but trading one bad character for another is well everyone in rwby besides pyrrha, Sienna and team CVFY are horrible people who get forgiven for horrible crimes.
