#sadies asks

[sadiebun]

Was Cry’s real face actually leaked? How do you know for sure it was him?

It actually was!! Long long ago, there was a blog that popped up in... 2013?, I think it was about that time, that was called “cryexposed”. 

Cryexposed posted a series of pictures of who they claimed to be Cry and then they vanished, thin air. 

Nobody at the time knew if it was real or a troll, so they just kinda logged that and moved on. Cry got really upset for a few days but he moved on too.

A year or so later, I was talking with one of my friends who was an artist in the Cry tag, they had grown pretty close to Cry and actually spoke to him every so often. We were close enough that they actually told me “Yes, Cryexposed was actually real but those pictures were really old. He underwent a huge weight loss”. They actually sent a picture of him to me and confirmed it (WHICH BEFORE YOU ASK I DO NOT HAVE IT ANYMORE (cause I was a fan at the time and felt bad for having it so I deleted it and I don’t have that laptop anymore ))

The way Cryexposed did it (I THINK at least, this is what I heard) was (hang in cause this is a doozy but it’s doable):

Cry had posted a picture of his Christmas tree on tumblr that year. Using that picture and the common knowledge of his full name, what ONE ROOM of his house looked like, and knowing that his mom and sister live with him, they used that to find his mom’s facebook. They knew they had it when the Christmas tree matched. 

And that’s the story of Cryexposed. I still wanna know who was behind it tho

[sadiebun]

I realized somethin. We all romanticized Cry the character. We never saw a face, we saw a cute character he created. Ive been feeling so guilty for not noticing the signs&for contributing so hard to that infatuation, but I think so many of us just didnt connect the character Cry&the real life adult Ryan. We never realized how wrong it was bc of the disconnect that he encouraged&fed off. Now that we're adults&we knw right from wrong its so easy to see what was then buried in fantasy&sup guy masks

The fact that he also used that to his advantage.

I watched a bit of his birthday stream with him crying and I heard him say that all he ever wanted to be was a cartoon and he just wanted to do voiceover stuff, which is fine. He had that made but then he literally goes and messes around with young girls that feel like they know him, that respect him and have let their guard down because they thought they could trust the guy they watched for so long.

He could’ve had all he wanted but then he took advantage of the anonymity he created. Did he mean to in the beginning and all of this was on purpose? I don’t know but he did it once and then continued.

[sadiebun]

Readin your ask sayin that you dnt think he can redeem himself & that if it was a mistake he wouldnt have done it however many times. Just want to add that apparently Snake said on his stream that the last time it happened was 2 days Before the vid was posted. So clearly it didnt happen as long ago as he made it seem and hasnt “changed”. If anything maybe he wants to change? Regardless, I agree that he cant redeem himself & am sad to say I think he just wants to change for the wrong reasons

Yeah! Exactly!!!

I answered that ask before Snake streamed so Snake adding that totally adds that if Cry really changed, he wouldn’t find himself doing this over and over and over for as long has he has been.

He can say he wants to change all he wants. He wants to change because he got caught and was called out is how I’m going to take it.  

I CANNOT and WILL NOT accept that he’s changed until he shows actually proof that he has and that will take years to come. By that time, he may even be a 40 year old man. Who knows. 

In all honesty, if he DOES want to change, I think at this point he still has to abandon everything. He cannot continue without the trust of his audience and trust is like a mirror. You can fix it if it's broken, but you can still see the crack in that mother fucker's reflection. Though, I don’t think his public image should even matter to him at this point if he TRULY wants to change. He should just be worried about making things right and changing himself. 

Again, though, if he was doing shit two days prior to the video he says “Oh hey I fooled with 16 year olds and cheated on my gf, I used to be horrible back then”, I don’t think his apology will be too genuine. 

Honestly, tdlr: Cry is only sorry he got caught, his thing won’t be genuine, and I feel like if he really did want this redemption arch, he’s gonna have to torch EVERYTHING. 

[sadiebun]

I would also like to say I see a lot of people asking him to turn himself into the authorities. When I looked it up I saw that sexual assault has a statue of limitations is 7 years in florida. But because there was no physicality’s there is no case. As well grooming is a felony offense but because this happened anywhere from a decade to six years ago a lot of proof is lost. How does he redeem himself is redemption even possible for someone like this?

My personal opinion is he can’t redeem himself. I think he planned to, I think he thought  him saying he’s a better person now was redeeming enough, but he will always have that tarnish. 

He can’t give back what he took from the survivors of this. He can’t reinstate the trust everyone gave to him, he can’t make people feel safe anymore since he’s done this. 

I feel like his time for redemption has passed. If it happened once and he came out about it back then and explained it was a mistake, we may have a different story, but this has happened several times over several years. Over several people. If it truly was just a mistake, I don’t think he would’ve made it however many times. 

I think he can get help but I don’t think Cryaotic will ever fully be what it used to be. It hasn’t been what it used to be for a long ass time and now the fumes it was running on have run out. 

[sadiebun]

That was so hard to fit in the character limit, but I've got one last thing to add It's okay that we didn't noticed the signs. It's okay that we blindly supported someone who, as far as we knew, had done nothing to betray our trust. Most of us were literal children, it wasn't our job to know the signs of abuse and manipulation. We just felt so passionately about the community we had built (that's right, we built it not him) and just wanted to have fun, make friends, and support a group we loved

In all honesty, I think it’s okay to watch someone, like their content, and trust them not to do bad things. I watch various YouTubers and I never think “oh man, I wonder if this guy likes 16 year old girls” because I have no reason to.

He took advantage of that trust. He took advantage of that community that he knew was a young age range. He had statistics and he knew what he was working with. If he was “hungry for validation” like Jund said, I don’t think that it would’ve gone nearly as sexual as it did.

Also I agree, it should not only be on children to keep themselves safe. Adults should know better than to take advantage of a fucking child.

[sadiebun]

Hi, can I ramble a bit? It's just, it's horrifying on so many levels for me, and it's a hit after hit, but the thing is, it's old news. Old news, that I could have digged out at the time, if I looked around here a little more, if I tuned into the drama that I knew was happening, but I didn't, I just, didn't. And it's not that I watched the guy religiously, but he's been such a calming force in my life, ironically, in a time when I was struggling with being in a groomed relationship myself!

You are totally fine, I am listening 20000 percent. 

It’s not your fault my dude! Like legitimately it is not your fault. I don’t want anybody to feel like some of us that are like “WE BEEN KNEW” are coming after people who just ignored it because that’s not what it is. When I say that, I mean the people who legit told us to shut up, told us to stop talking about it that there was NO WAY that it was true, and that we were (in Jund’s words) “butthurt fan girls”. 

I repeat, I do NOT want anybody to feel like that’s what that’s about. 

He’s been a comfort to a huge people, he’s been people’s whole childhood, he’s literally the reason I met my fiance. Without Cry, I wouldn’t have my life as it is now. And my dude, it’s totally okay! Like it’s okay that that comforted you, it’s okay that that it got you through.

It’s just.. you know now. You didn’t know back then but you know now. You feel betrayed, I know, and you deserve to feel that way. He should know why better, he should *be* better but he’s trash. Like, I don’t know exactly how I wanna word this but like here’s what I want to say: Don’t support him any longer but don’t be angry at yourself that you did support him. Those times you did support him, they were okay. 

You don’t have to be tuned into Drama 101 all time; You liked Cry and you were just fine. That’s okay, that’s perfectly fine my dude. Now you know the truth, you realize he’s not as great as you thought and your opinion changed and that’s okay.

Basically what I’m trying to say is don’t feel bad cause you didn’t know. A lot of people didn’t and I didn’t for a while until people I knew told me. Don’t beat yourself up over him doing stupid shit. 

[sadiebun]

Zoned out today and realized that Cry didn't really discourage the HentaiforCry/BoobiesforCry/ButtsforCry stuff despite knowing he had a pretty young following and I got very Hmmmmmm about it

There is a LOT of stuff like that.

Like he could’ve discouraged a lot but he didn’t.

I feel like, also, none of us would’ve made any of that sort if he hadn’t expressed his love for hentai/boobs/butts in front of his young following.

I dunno, some things were weirdly sexually charged and that itself isn’t incriminating, it’s just flat out weird

[sadiebun]

Oh the Coyotemation twitter nuke was bc they reuploaded the "Elephant in the Room" animation with the intention of saying that they hated how Cry didn't defend Ziegs, and how Chey was also a dick, and Chey found out and tore them a new one

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