#sarevok

[aureliaen]

can you blieve he was just 20-something in bg1... undeveloped frontal lobe mf

[meanbossart]

Did DU Drow know Orin was Sarevok's daughter, or was he also mislead to believe her his like.... Half sister instead of double niece. Bhaal cult family is fascinating.

God what the hell even are Bhaalist family conventions, LOL.

No, he wasn't. And how much it would have troubled him depends on how long he's been a bhaalist for. It's actually interesting to me how Orin seems betrayed at the revelation, considering everything else that the Bhaalists get up to - Is she upset because of the incest? Because of the implication of generational sexual abuse? Because she ends up deducing that she was originally supposed to be a sacrifice to Bhaal herself? I have to assume that the lie itself is what upset her, since she must have been under the pretense that Bhaal impregnated her mother, somehow - but we don't actually have confirmation either way. That whole line of dialogue feels a little bit incomplete to me, so we can only theorize from there.

It's worth pointing out that DU drow himself was not brought up with the same inhibitions as your average person - he is aware of what is taboo and what isn't, but he understands that Bhaal's law does not abide by social conventions, and Sarevok would have sold himself as Bhaal's mouth-piece for a long time. If Sarevok set out to convince DU drow that what he did to Helena was necessary, then he would have probably accepted it. Still, DU drow had a lot of empathy for Orin for the majority of their time together: If that revelation crushed her as much as we see it do in-game, he would mirrored her indignation up until a point - that point being before his rivalry with Sarevok had grown into a type of bro-ish respect.

I think he would have always been furious at Sarevok for lying, but there would have been periods where he would have dismissed Orin's feelings as an overreaction more than others - seeing that, right prior to being disposed of, the only feeling he cared about coming from her was affection/anything he could interpret as responsive to his advances. Anything else - anger, disappointment, sadness - would have been a source of quiet irritation.

[shewolfofvilnius]

I feel sorry for Orin

repurposed from an old Reddit post of mine

Edit: Wrote an epilogue fic where my Durge, Sofija, seeks redemption for her sister with the Gods

Raised from birth in the Bhaal cult and has never known ANYTHING else. Literally the result of incest between her mom and Sarevok (her father AND grandfather) - and for her entire life is actively manipulated and groomed to worship her "Grandfather" second only to Bhaal (leaving a disgusting implication that Sarevok might eventually try again). Literally every single day of her life spent in a murder cult, never knowing anything else.

Her mother is actively manipulated when Orin is seven to try to kill her daughter, only for Orin to reflexively kill her first, at which point Orin was briefly possessed by Bhaal himself (per some Sarevok dialogue). AT AGE SEVEN. And even from a young age, Orin's true gift is her artistry, a talent that outside the Bhaal cult probably could have been nurtured into something phenominal, but inside the cult is twisted into a sinisterness in the kill that, when she's out of earshot is decried as wasteful.

She eventually rises through the ranks (never have had any choice), having never felt a meaningful moment of compassion or kindness and, desperate to be cared about, sees the power and fear and respect her bloodkin (The Dark Urge) has gained and uses their hubris to take them out.

Ironically, in the timeline where Durge lives, they get a gift Orin couldn't even dream of - a 2nd chance. With their brain scrambled and the tadpole present but being interfered with, the Dark Urge got a chance to be someone new. (Whether they accept or reject that 2nd chance, they at least got a choice this time).

What did Orin get for her troubles? Her (grand)father openly coveted to either take her out, or worse, take her out - when the time was right, her own allies both detested her (Gortash openly revels at the idea of working with the Dark Urge again)

and most brutally, if you manage to confront her with the truth, any of it? About Sarevok, about her mother, etc? She immediately believes you. And for one (1) moment, maybe there's hope for her.

Hope that Bhaal immediately rips away; an Orin confronted with the truth and showing even the slightest hesitation is immediately forcibly transformed into the Slayer by Bhaal himself, with a strong implication that the core of the old Orin is gone forever win, lose, or draw. "No more doubts, no more fears, no more Orin. Become murder.". Seeing what Bhaal's reaction was the moment Orin had one (1) instant of hesitation also confirms that she'd likely have never had the chance to choose differently, either Bhaal would always step in or else she'd eventually meet her end.

Imagine the AU where Orin takes her CLEAR flair and artistic talent to become a truly great artist. Where she gets the same second chance that Durge got - If she'd been able to use her talent for impersonation and desire to great to do something powerful instead of being forced by her family from childhood into the family business of murder.

She literally never had a chance. Even Bane and Myrkul and their respective cults were never so unfathomably cruel, and she never knew anything else.

At least for my own first game, though, my Durge recognized that without her "sister," she'd have never gotten the chance to save the world, never met Shadowheart, never stopped a century worth of Ketheric's torture on Dame Aylin, never set in motion the liberation of the Githyanki...In the right world states, Orin unwittingly saved the world, but it's a world she'll never get to see or know, and probably never could have.

That's tragic as hell.

[doli-nemae]

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(redraw of og/ee intro)

[thirddoctor]

BALDUR'S GATE I & II Sarevok Anchev "Why would you not take that which will be offered to you? Power, wealth, rule over lesser men! It is all within your reach! What is the use of power if you do not carve out an empire for yourself?"

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[ratscrap]

maybe in another life the world could have been kinder to us both

[blighted-elf]

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