#ship issues

[whoshotterpolls]

You are aware that Ace and Sabo are brothers. That ship is incest. It would be best if you took it down because of how problematic that is

Warning, this turned into a rant

They are adopted/sworn brothers, so the ship is not technically incest.

If that ship bothers you, several One Piece ships should bother you in between adopted brothers or sworn brothers, but I have seen zero complaints. This includes Buggy/Shanks, those two were raised as brothers as far as we know, and Marco/Ace, who became sworn brothers. Remember, Ace joined The Whitebeard Pirates, AKA the Sons of Whitebeard. They all are sworn brothers. So let's please be coherent in your hypocrisy

Isn't this Tumblr? I can't be that old because I remember the heyday of Superwholock. The two most popular Supernatural ships were Destiel and WinCest. Remember, they were so popular that the Supernatural show even addressed this in its meta episodes. What the hell happened? And I remember the Ouran High School Host Club speech where the twins said the whole appeal behind them is when you have two attractive guys who struggle between their attraction and their friendship. Plus, because they're twins, it makes their relationship taboo so even more intriguing. So they were hyper-aware of what they were doing with their whole queerbating/twincest thing, and Tumblr ate that crap up.

It's one of those things where it's fiction, so it's not real, so it's okay because no actual person is being harmed by whatever problematic content is portrayed in whatever fictional media. I personally have zero problems with the most problematic content. But that doesn't include all problematic content. I do have lines when it comes to child characters and lollies. That's why there are rules on my blog. But I can also separate fantasy from reality, and if you can't, you probably need to talk to someone about that because that's a problem.

Again, seriously, what the hell happened to the fandom culture on Tumblr? Why are the moral purity police everywhere? I joined fandoms and Tumblr to escape the oppressive Bible thumpers that I grew up around. Why am I now encountering more oppressive moral policing online from fandom idiots than I do from the Church Karens in real life? I live in the conservative Bible Belt. Those Church Karens are everywhere and in everyone's business

Sorry for my rant. I am tired, and I'm still trying to figure out what the hell happened. I've been on Tumblr on and off since 2010, and I feel like I hardly recognize this community anymore. Now, I have been made aware of the anti-shippers/ anti-fandom movement, and I know it's not just a minor thing because this is something I have found multiple academic research papers on. I'll link a good one. But I pray it's something else cuz these are just kids who don't know better at the moment. I hope one day they will realize this behavior is the equivalent of the Boomers blaming all of the Gen Z and Millennial behaviors. They don't like on violent video games. Again, sorry for the rant

[slytherin-tohogwarts-blog]

Ship Issues

Sometimes I see Solangelo and I'm like aaaaaaaaaaawwwwwww and sometimes I see jasico and I'm like aaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwww and this is a legit issue for me like wtf me.

[that-evil-monsterkin]

This isn’t Gency hate, I’m not telling people not to ship it.

Look, if you ship Gency, I don’t care. I really don’t. I have a very personal OC ship that includes a doctor/patient relationship.

Just recognize that shit like that can be toxic and harmful to both patient and doctor. A patient could influence the doctor to perform unnecessary or very dangerous treatments because they care too much about their patient, which is usually the cause for the taboo. (Not saying Genji would do that, just makin a point)

But there’s also the power imbalance that a doctor holds over their patient. Especially if said doctor saved their patient’s life. Genji clearly nearly worships Angela because of this. That’s not a small amount of power to hold over someone.

Just keep that in mind. I’m not saying don’t ship doctors and patients, it’s one of my favorite tropes and can be really sweet imo. Just realize where things could be problematic and make sure you don’t let your shipping cross over into abuse.

And leave other shippers alone. People ship Kukui and Guzma and Kukui is married. It’s called an AU. So even if Gency is canon, don’t bash them. Thanks.

EDIT: actually someone pointed out that the whole doctor/paitent thing goes for all ships involving mercy, since she's, like, the doctor for all of overwatch so just like. The same message applies. Ship what you want just be careful it doesnt become abuse.

[whoshotterpolls]

the only people i have ever seen question the legitimacy of ace sabo and luffy's adoptive brotherhood in my 11 years in the one piece fandom have been shippers arguing that theyre not actually really brothers so it's not ~technically~ incest to ship them together. i feel like there's something to be said about bias and media illiteracy there but it's past 4am here and im tired.

ship and let ship, yes, absolutely, but sometimes you should really just call a spade a spade, yknow?

That is what I was trying to point out, but it kind of turned into a rant. But if the Ace and Sabo ship bothers them so much because it's incest, why have I done multiple polls with Shanks and Buggy with no complaints? I have done several polls with siblings ships adopted and blood, but Ace and Sabo broke the camel's back. So if we're going to complain, we need to treat all incest ships the same, or we need to admit we're a hypocrite and at least have some coherent thought process in our hypocrisy.

I am willing to tag things accordingly since people have asked now. Tumblr is going to make this a little complicated because of the banned tag words, but I'm working on it

[whoshotterpolls]

I 100% get and agree with SALS, but I personally also have a lot of distaste for incestuous ships and would rather not interact with posts regarding them. Could you maybe tag such polls if they were to happen?

Again, I'm not asking you to take down the whole fandom or anything like that, just some tagging would be nice

And I know anime in general is weird, and a case could be made for something like Naruto x Sasuke to be considered incest, so I'd understand if you limited it to only biological or straight up adopted pairs, but either way it's something that I think is reasonable

Only if you want to do that, though! It's your blog after all lol

I can do that for biological and adopted siblings or direct family relations, but that also means that I'm going to need people to help me out. So, that means you'll have to let me know if it needs that tag in the request. Because I am not familiar with 90% of the characters and Anime/manga that are submitted now. So, if I miss a ship, politely let me know in the comments, and I will add that tag just like if I accidentally miss the minor tag

There is a tag that already exists so it's not unique to my blog #tw inc*st It's censored because of The Tumblr banned tag list

I can also do a unique tag to just my blog if you guys would prefer that, but I need everyone to communicate with me I can try to create my own tag that is #incest poll but do be aware that it does run the risk of causing issues mostly for people who use iOS since they have more strict rules for some reason.

I don't mind adding tags so people can filter things.

[groovy-lady]

WHY CAN’T I FIND ANY LUCIUS MALFOY X READER FICS IN THE FUCKING LUCIUS MALFOY X READER TAG?!?!?!?! WHY THE FUCK AM I ONLY FIND FUCKING DRACO MALFOY X READER STUFF IN THE LUCIUS MALFOY X READER TAG?!!?!?! I AM VERY FRUSTRATED AND PISSED ABOUT THIS!!!!!

I WANT LUCIUS, NOT DRACO!!!!!!

[whoshotterpolls]

problem is youre gonna be opening yourself up to the people who ship canonically adoptive siblings but who dont like the idea of shipping incest who will argue it's not "technically" incest [insert the buzzfeed unsolved screenshot here]

i think youll need to draw an explicit line in the sand on what kinds of ships should be submitted under whatever tag you use for it

I'm aware, and with the fact I'm already having issues because incest is a banned word with Tumblr's tagging system, it could cause problems. Now, someone's already mentioned they don't like me censoring the word to get around the ban. So, any ship that could be considered incest in any way is going to be put on hold until the situation is figured out.

So when I reopen the request box, I can post a new set of ship rules.

[sarehime]

ship whatever you want i don’t care but know this i feel a little annoyed by you if you don’t ship my ship…

i am sorry but i can’t help myself…