I’m still in the introduction to lostbelt 3, but some things that were said have me thinking about Marisbury. I’m very interested in who he was and what exactly was going on with him.
I’m wondering, did he see that the world will end and do what he did because of that? Like, all the atlas scientists are said to be attempting to stop their own visions of the world ending, did Marisbury also see the future where the world ends, and that’s why he joined the Fuyuki Grail War?
I actually can’t remember the exact reason that most timelines don’t have the incineration of humanity, I’ve heard it’s mentioned in Clock Tower, and I still need to read that. But if it’s something that occurred before the Grail War, that could be why he joined the War.
Because he saw that this timeline led to the end of the world, so he decided to join the Grail War to get the resources to save it.
The last chapter for this entire Lostbelt... And also the longest to complete because it takes 3 Command Seals and number of retries to deal with the fucking bosses for this!
Time to get this shit done once and for all!
Verse 16
Buffs, gimmicks, debuffs and more crits! That’s basically the summary of this verse. One main boss after another, starting the first arrow!
You’re fighting both Consort Yu and her husband together! And this time at the final chapter, you can’t use your Master Skills for 5 turns at the start of the battle! Where my first round of Command Seals are used!
Xiang Yu:
This unit will no longer receive x2.0 damage from any other Servant, and it is treated as if it is Neutral to all classes.
This unit will still deal x1.5 damage to any other servant except for Shielder (x1.0) and Foreigner (x0.5).
Trigger Upon Attacking (Extremity Form)Inflict NP Seal (1 turn) towards a target that receives any attack from this unit.
Consort Yu:
Has a skill that charges her own NP gauge by 1 tick.
You may want to get rid of Consort Yu to prevent her NP spam, but Xiang Yu is equally a big headache as her... Hence, first round of my Command Seal wasted to deal against her first before Xiang Yu OTL
Second arrow with Qin-sama! The peacock-moth man-dragon-phoenix emperor that showing how a fucking crit works against an Avenger!
Gimmicks:
All party Servants gains Buster Up, Arts Up and Quick Up [Permanent, Unremovable]
Shi Huang Di gains Critical Rate Up & Recover 10,000 HP every turn. [Permanent, Unremovable]
Shi Huang Di
Has a skill that can stun all front-line Servants.
First HP Layer break: Charges own NP gauge to MAX, and grants self Debuff Immunity for 5 turns.
His NP is capable of buffing self with Invincibility (1 turn), Critical Damage Up (3 turns), Critical Rate Up (3 turns), Attack Damage Up (3 turns) and Taunt (1 turn).
Second HP Layer break : Charges own NP gauge to MAX. Remove all Front-line party members' buffs.
Has a skill that can remove all debuffs on self.
........... This one surprisingly isn’t that hard as I thought. Well, when you got Jeanne Alter against him, every enemy Ruler is a cakewalk. I had to retry it again since I screwed up once in my cards and RNG fucked me first time.
By screwup, his crits were at least 50k total in kiling Jeanne Alter before I’m really left dead. Nevertheless, bring the best ST NP Avenger in your team with support to keep them alive to kill him!
Third arrow... Your final round with Xiang Yu... Where he’s fatally injured from your last fight in the first arrow. And, he’s fighting you the last time to prevent you and Chaldea to separate his beloved consort once more
While he still have mental debuff immunity, there’s one more gimmick goes with the story:
Fatal Injury: Defense Down. Drains own HP by 1000 at the end of every turn. Drains own NP gauge by 1 tick at the end of every turn. [Permanent, Unremovable]
Considered as the most easiest boss fight by far... Also the saddest of all because what your actions to bring back a lost history. Xiang Yu in this fight will never be able to use his NP at you, but his attacks still hurt as a Berserker. His attack still hurt, but he’ll eventually kill himself by the wound you give him
The summary of after defeating Xiang Yu and the summary of the final arrow: https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/a1t4vu/summary_lb3_berserkers_last_stand_aftermath/
Last arrow, Consort Yu snapped after you killed her husband in that last fight. In a fit of rage, she finally used the special Command Seal and merged the Phantasm tree to kill us all, hence the monstrous growth in the final boss battle.
NPCs: Qin Shi Huang Di if you’d like a trial run of how his gameplay works
Gimmicks:
Mayall・α : Resistance against Quick Attacks. [Permanent, Unremovable]
Mayall・β : Resistance against Arts Attacks. [Permanent, Unremovable]
First HP Layer Break : Removes Mayall・α and Grants Self Buster Damage Resistance. [Permanent, Unremovable] Reduces one Servant's NP gauge by 20%.
Second HP Layer Break : Removes Mayall・β and Grants Self Buster Damage Resistance. (In addition to the previous one) [Permanent, Unremovable] Reduces one Servant's NP gauge by 20%.
Skills:
Drain either whole front-line or single-target Servant’s NP and charge itself
Increase her critical damage
Increase amount of damage from the curse debuff
........ This fucking piece of shit fight... I retried so many fucking times because it’s a fucking pain in the ass from the skills and gimmicks of this fucking tree! And I finally beat the crap out of it just to not burden before Christmas event... SO FUCK YOU DW!
Now that this is fucking done once and for all, time to grind for SQs! More or less to kill the time before Wednesday for Christmas event!
Observation:
General:
This entire SINful lostbelt is critfest + cursing status and debuff altogether
Other than survival from the fucking crit stars, you’ll need more or debuff removers to kill the enemy Servant
Lanling Wang aka Gao Changgong:
The only time where Euryale is actually really useful against him
He doesn’t have debuff immunity through the three fights, a charm-locked strategy by the Gorgon sister will work well
The only thing annoying through the rounds of fight with him, his NP will debuff you greatly, and his defense buff is one heck of a tank for him
His invincibility can easily be outdone by either invincibility pierce or removing it via 2 hits
When partnered with Xiang Yu, he acts more of the support role especially when with Hinako as his Master to debuff your Servants
Notably in verse 9 two round of try... She’ll have Lanling Wang to take the taunt to keep Xiang Yu alive
Servants wise other than Euryale, single-target NP servants like Billy, David and Robin are welcomed when he’s alone
With Xiang Yu especially after he used his NP, servants like Darius, Emiya, Spartacus and Lu Bu’s NP will ignore their defense buff to kill them
No recommended CE I guess? Or if you’d like, you can have your main DPS equipped a Debuff Immunity CE to keep their damage high against him
Spartacus:
Other than hitting hard as a Berserker, prepare for his unexpected NP charge from his second skill
Skills and NP revolves more on healing to keep him alive
Again, Euryale is recommended here to kick his ass completely. But!
On his gimmicks on his boss fight, his 1-time mental debuff immunity will prevent himself from being charmed! You’ll need to sacrifice one of your charm skills from the Gorgon-sister (if you’re going for that) to paralyze him
Also there’s an NP damage up one time, which can be removable, so more or less kill him quickly before he launches his AOE NP
CE to equipped by far is definitely the most recommended especially recent mobs and boss will always have a Berserker: The Infant of Atlas
Otherwise, have either an increase attack or defense against male Servants will suffice
Red Hare:
This “Horse-Centaur” hybrid is one of the most unique boss other than the Emperor himself
Described as what would’ve been if Lu Bu is summoned under the Rider Class
Though he doesn’t use his second skill on his NP with pierce invincbility, his attacks still hurt like a bitch as it ignores all defense buff on your Servants while sealing their skills
His gimmick have been RNG lucky for me, because he’ll stack 5 CRIT DAMAGE UP buff permanently upon HP break
STILL A HORSE REGARDLESS, RED HARE!
Assassin in general will work since... I don’t know, there’s Brynhildr to bring if you want her to stab him because he look like Sigurd with the Brynhildr’s beloved trait?
Or Cu proto for beast trait against him?
Riding-trait with Oda Nobunaga?
Either way, just get a good main Assassin DPS to deal with him in general. CE wise there’s none in particular unless you’d like an ignore evasion to deal more damage quickly
Liangyu:
Both rounds against her will have two different class mob with her
But both round have different gimmick upon HP break. Common factor is that they are pernanent buff
Off-hand topic, I realized the following gimmick are actually based on her actual in-game NP. But as the enemy, they’re permanent instead of lasting 3 times for 5 turns.
Her skill in general, other than improving quick + arts performance and crit damage, her second skill improve removal buff resistance. So Servants like Amakusa and Medea will be having a little difficulty to remove them if you need it
First gimmick based on her two NP effect: Inflict Critical Damage Down to the target that attacks this unit + Recover the HP of all allied units, upon receiving critical hit from any target.
This one in particular is a headache especially the second effect
Lancelot was my main DPS in this, and generally as a hard crit hitter... It takes a long while to get her damage lowered since the healing when it does is pretty high
Like with Surtr, one way to overcome is to outdo her healing when critting her
Or increase in flat damage is another if you can’t crit her hard enough
The debuff when you received are removable, so do equipped the main DPS Saber with remove debuff Command Code when attacking
Second gimmick based on her second half of her NP: Inflict Defense Down debuff to target Servant upon attacking. + Remove all buffs from a target upon receiving this unit's Critical Hit.
Her first effect may not seem painful against Saber... But when it stacks high along with her crit later, that’s hell you’re digging
But the second one... Unless you got some sort of buff removal resistance, there goes your defense and attack buff
As far as I remember for mine with Lancelot again... It’s only to crit when possible against her. Especially the first effect, I had equipped remove debuff on one of his command card to prevent from stacking
For Servants against her:
Surprisingly being the next girl to have Brynhildr’s beloved, you can feel free to bring her for a strong neutral damage against her
Izou if you’d like against Humanoid traits or even AUO just because she’s weak to Enuma Elish
Or even Jack and Carmilla for higher damage against female Servants
But generally bring your best ST NP Servant against her once you cleared the mobs
Mobs wise, just bring the respective class they’re weak against with AOE NP to wipe them out, along with dealing additional damage to Liangyu
Verse 15 & Old Li Shuwen:
DW ARE YOU FUCKING HIGH ON THIS VERSE?!
Seriously, I can’t believe I’m even writing for a mob fight because this fucking verse is really high on drugs!
Second arrow:
Okay, at least this isn’t Gilfes fight with Leonidas and his 300 soldiers
But like that CQ from that event, both mob got different gimmick
Terracotta Warrior:
Gain 1 tick of NP charge per turn.
When this unit dies, grants all allies NP Damage Up (1 hit).
Royal Guard:
NP Charge Tick Plus per Turn : Gain 1 tick of NP charge per turn.
Evasion (3 hit)
Guts (1 time)
Goes without saying, if you’re bringing Merlin/Skadi/Waver/Tamamo or any supporting Caster in the field, do kill the Rider mobs ASAP
With a mixed class of Rider and Assassin, DW is screaming out to have a borrowed Alter Ego or Berserker with AOE NP to clear them
While saying that, the Terracotta Warrior have quite a tanky HP to deal with.
I suggest any Assassin found on the field, get rid of their evasion... Or find/equipped Alter Ego/Berseker with an ignore evasion skill/CE
Li Shuwen Old:
Oh my fucking god, if he’s finally out on gacha, he’s at least to be on top tier with his 3 fucking skills:
1st skill: Ignores Invincibility for 1 turn.
Increases own critical damage for 1 turn.
2nd skill: Grants self Evasion for 1 turn.
Increases own critical attack chance for 1 turn.
Increases own critical attack chance for 1 turn.
3rd skill: Increases own attack for 1 turn.
Grants self Debuff Immunity for 1 turn.
NP:
Reduces one enemy's defense for 3 turns. (Activates first)
Deals damage to one enemy.
Chance to Instant-Kill them.
Gimmicks:
At the start of battle, Royal Guard Chief gains Attackup Attack Up Based On Own Remaining HP [Removable] and 1 Tick of NP Charge per Turn [Removable] for 10 turns.
Royal Guard Chief always uses his 3rd skill before using his Noble Phantasm.
Different debuffs will be used at the end of the turn in this order:
One random Servant is debuffed with Taunt (3 turns) and Royal Guard Chief Dragon ignores class disadvantage when attacking (3 turns).
All frontline Servants are debuffed with Delayed Debuff Skill seal chance to have their skills sealed for 1 turn every turn for 3 turns.
Royal Guard Chief gains 3 stacks of Attack Up for 1 turn.
One random Servant is debuffed with NP Generation Rate Down by 100% for 3 turns.
Royal Guard Chief gains Arts Performance Up for 3 turns at the end of every turn for 3 turns.
First HP Layer Break: Royal Guard Chief gains Critical Chance Up for 1 time [Unremovable] and Critical Damage Up. [1 Time, Unremovable]
2nd HP Break Layer: Royal Guard Chief gains Attack Up [Permanent, Unremovable] and Death Chance Up [Permanent, Unremovable].
Royal Guard Chief will now always use 1st skill before using his Noble Phantasm.
I’ve been lucky with the RNG that his insta-death skill didn’t activate... But, his attack is practically insta-kill without that insta-death
His taunts always unfortunately land on support Merlin to kill him ASAP!
Servants to bring?:
Medea: With the amount of buff constant stacking, she’s the most recommended 3* Caster with a ST NP to deal with him while removing his buff
Gorgon-sister combo: I’ve seen comments to bring them in, but reminder that once he has his debuff immunity up, you can’t charm him
George-Sieg combo: I’ve not tried because this isn’t really helping with george probably dying sooner than expected. But you can try turning old man into a dragon for additional damage
Ignore evasion if needed to deal more damage quickly
Taunt CE if you want the taunt debuff to fall on your said taunter
Xiang Yu & Yu Miaoyi:
The canon historical couple that’s by far the worst boss fight I’ve ever seen
Xiang Yu:
1st skill: Grants self Evasion for 1 turn.
Increases own critical damage for 1 turn.
2nd skill: Increases own Quick performance for 3 turns.
Increases own Buster performance for 3 turns.
Increases own critical damage for 1 turn.
3rd skill: Gains critical stars every turn for 3 turns.
Ignores Invincibility for 3 turns.
AOE NP: Increases own NP damage for 1 turn.
Consort Yu:
1st skill: Charges own NP gauge by 1 tick.
Grants self Debuff Immunity for 1 turn.
2nd skill: Recovers own HP every 5 turn
3rd skill: Chance to reduce one enemy's NP gauge by 1.
Charges own NP gauge.
AOE NP: Removes own debuffs. (Activates first)
Removes own buffs. [Demerit] (Activates first)
Deals damage to all enemies.
Inflicts Curse with 2000 damage for 5 turns to them.
Increases own Buster performance for 1 turn.
Verse 12 fight:
Unless you’re capable of pulling off double Merlin, his healing is being outdone by her curse who inflicts you at 10% HP
Tamamo Vitch’s guts buff CANNOT be stack if your own guts skill buff. Only exception may be Herc-chan’s bond CE to keep him surviving against her
You’ll want to start equipping Command Code on debuff removal when attacking her so that the curse debuff doesn’t stack
For Xiang Yu:
Anyone with an ignore evasion CE or skill is preferred to kill him ASAP
Front few fights against him only required to break his first HP layer
But his permanent mental debuff immunity isn’t recommended to bring Gorgon sister combo in
For an enemy Berserker and his constant buff in crit damage... THAT ACTUALLY FUCKING HURTS LIKE A BITCH
Also doesn’t really help when his third ignore invincibility will activate to kill your Servants more quickly
Definitely please bring/borrow a Foreigner Servant against him
Trait-damage dealing Servants:
Weak to Enuma Elish: Along with his wife, you can bring the infamous Gilgamesh to kill them both on the final verse arrow 1
Male Servant: Medb, Euryale, Orion, Stheno
But Medb isn’t really recommended especially on the final verse with Consort Yu
Humanoid: Izou, Sanson and Nightingale
CE: Infant of Atlas, Kiyohime’s CE, Caren’s CE on defense against Male
For Consort Yu:
While she lacks of defense skill, she’s still a problem since she spams NP very quickly as an Assassin with a curse that stacks inflicts huge damage
The curse debuff are removable so do not get them stack up
Trait-damage dealing Servant:
Demonic: Shuten-Doji (Caster)
She’s actually my MVP for the final battle especially against the tree. Her third skill will deal huge damage against her with her ST NP
Weak to Enuma Elish: Already mentioned in her husband bullet point
Humanoid: Izou, Sanson, Nightingale
Female: Jack, Carmilla
Earth or Sky: Minamoto Raikou
CE: Debuff Immunity mostly to prevent the Curse debuff on your main DPS, Art of death for boosting damage on her humanoid trait
Qin Shi Huang Di
The one Ruler whose crit will truly kill an Avenger despite being weak to it on a boss fight
Also you may ended up sympathizing Jing Ke in not being able to kill this emperor
I was hoping he’s a Rider... BUT GOD DAMN IT DW, YOU REALLY DENIED JING KE HER CHANCE TO ASSASSINATE HIM AGAIN
His skills and NP:
1st Skill: Reduces all enemies' NP gauge by 1.
Reduces their defense for 3 turns.
2nd Skill: 70% Chance to Stun all enemies for 1 turn.
Increases own attack for 3 turns.
3rd Skill: Charges own NP gauge.
Removes own debuffs.
Recovers own HP.
ST NP: Grants self Invincibility for 1 turn.
Draws attention of all enemies to self for 1 turn.
Increases own critical damage for 3 turns.
Increases own critical star absorption by 300% for 3 turns.
Increases own attack for 3 turns.
As again, bringing/borrowing an ST NP Avenger like Jeanne Alter/Lobo is vital in killing him
Or both if possible because Lobo’s skill will able to remove his stacking crit buff from a 60k+ crit damage
If you’re unlucky to not get Lobo/Gorgon from gacha and/or didn’t pick them from SR ticket, your best bet is the story-locked Salieri
He doesn’t have any pierce defense skill but his stun is really annoying
I know I refer Shi Huang Di under the pronouns of he... His gender is canonly stated as “royal we”. Like Enkidu, he’s genderless so Gorgon-sister combo isn’t advisable here
Trait-damage dealing Servants:
Weak to Enuma Elish: Not even the immortal emperor is strong against the oldest king of Heroes
Humanoid: Nightingale as Izou will have a bit more difficulty to deal damage to him. But Nightingale will die more quickly from her class weakness
King: Scheherazade would be able to deal more but once again his class as a Ruler will have a bit difficulty
CE: Art of Death on your main DPS Avenger to deal big damage, pierce invincibility if you want to kill him quickly, seal NP if you really don’t want his buff to keep stacking... And taunt CE, because you also don’t want the crit to land on your Avengers
Mayall Tree:
Skillset are very similar to Consort Yu as she merged with the tree to kill all of Chaldea
With buffs being resistance to command card type, you’re more or less need to go around accordingly to deal with this tree
I’ve seen many setting Arts team at the end because that’s where the final HP break will have it being vulnerable to it
Servants wise:
Qin Shi Huang Di: The NPC Servant who is actually the most viable if you don’t have a good Caster DPS aside Shuten-Doji. His crits and taunt + invincibility helps in landing the crits away from your Caster and main DPS Servant
Shuten-Doji: It’s not stated in the wiki or I’m missing out something... So not confirmed if the tree has Demonic-trait, if it does, use it for extra damage. Or if not, mostly to break of its first HP layer
MHXX: Despite a Foreigner class with neutral damage, her third skill does extra damage to Threat to Humanity enemies
Other ST NP Casters & Alter Egos: Alter Egos are slightly a bit of problem to bring since they take neutral damage from Assassin in spite of dealing more damage on the four horseman class
CE: Debuff immunity because I find it personally debuff your team more on curse debuff than anything
Or Command card wise which to deal against first to last:
Buster > Quick after 1st HP Layer break > Quick + Arts after 2nd HP layer break
Good luck for those rushing to complete and if you’ll excuse me... I will need to go back to Babylonia hell OTL
First of all, I swear I’ve seen this dude. I think he’s in the current event?
And Mordred is in this lostbelt, that’s nice.
Also, it looks like Koyanskaya has a new design, really showing more of her Tamamo connection. I wonder if she’s going to be around after this lostbelt.
Some things that were said are making me think it’s possible we defeat her here. Then again, we can defeat her and then still see her escape after.
That’s Jing Ke, I believe?
And is that a centaur? I mean, not a centaur, since a centaur has a human body. But something similar.
I find it funny that the summer event has given me two theories. First the Koyanskaya theory with Tamamo and now this next one.
I think that Akuta Hinako is a Servant. Specifically, I think Hinako is Yu Mei-Ren. I mean, Hinako seemed to care about Xiang Yu, and Mei Ren seems to be his girlfriend in the event.
And it wouldn’t be the first time Marisbury got a Servant a job at Chaldea, looking at you, Romani.
I can’t remember if I’ve heard Alaya before in the series, or if I’ve just heard in mentioned in the parts of the fandom I’ve seen.
I mean, I know what Alaya is, it’s the world. Pretty sure it’s what Shirou made the deal with to become Archer.
Oh, okay I looked it up. So Alaya is a buddhist term for the soul of the world? So it’s not something that Fate completely made up, at the very least, the concept for the soul of the world is taken from Buddhism.
