#slutshaming tw

[one-time-i-dreamt]

I was at like a restaurant or something with one of those drink fountains and every time I refilled my drink an alarm would go off and call me a slut.

[dontlookoverheredammit]

I'd rather be his whore than your wife.

[tamsiblings]

sidenote: i laugh and cheer as much as anyone when that guy at the ball swoops in and saves kaylee from the mean girls, but i do think the slutshaming is worth noting considering the other issues at play in this episode and the show in general wrt this. while i have no love lost for banning (i think that was her name?) and don’t care about her feelings literally at all, it does seem weird to put the idea that the idea she might enjoy sex/be ‘promiscuous’ on the same level as what he said right before that HER DRESS WAS MADE BY SLAVES?? like. that, as well as her classism, is the problem we should be focusing on.

and again, the issue isn’t that this girl is a good person (she’s not) and therefore no one should say anything mean to her, but that the sex-positive/feminist values that i think this show wants us to BELIEVE it’s upholding are conditional. as many issues as i see with mal and inara, at the very least, mal is usually framed as being in the wrong when he’s demeaning her. kaylee is open and positive and casual about sex in a way that’s not presented negatively. but those female characters are Good and therefore we should not slutshame them, whereas the narrative here seems to suggest that it’s fine to slutshame so long as the character is not a good person. and as much as i can appreciate this scene for what it is, i don’t think that’s good messaging and really does speak to a larger issue with both joss whedon’s brand of (often faux) feminism, but also our society in general.

[intersexelphie]

I’ve been rewatching last night in soho and I will never forget how there were terfs who legit slut-shamed sandie, a literal sex trafficking victim, because she slept with a guy she thought she could trust. that really proved to me how tradwife they are and how little they care even about cis women who don’t behave the way terfs think they should.

[capitainecorbeau]

As promised, here’s more translation nerdery. This time we’re comparing the original 1980 french production/concept album to the adaptation that was made of it and is now the widely recognized version. So there will be transaltion differences, but also thematic ones !

Here I’m looking at ‘La journée est finie’, which became ‘At the end of the day’. In the 1980 version, it’s the opening number. The prologue with Valjean being released and meeting the bishop was added in the adaptation/translation, which in general is more focused on Valjean as a character and the parallels between him and Javert, while the original version is more focused on the social themes.

Women :

La journée est finie quatorze heures à la peine/The day is over 14 hours of hard work

Le nez sur l'établi quatorze heures à la chaîne/Nose stuck to the bench 14 without pause

C'est fini ça recommence/It’s over it starts again

Dans la vie, nous les femmes, on a la chance/In life, us women are lucky

D'avoir un deuxième patron à la maison/To have another boss at home

Que l'on sert en silence/That we serve in silence

Lots of fun stuff in this first paragraph. First, ‘peine’ is a word that has lots of meanings ! Here it means hard work, but it also means punishment/sentence or grief/sadness. I remember a parody of Columbo where he was telling a suspect pretending (badly) to be sad about the wife he just murdered ‘Oui je comprends la peine que vous avez à simuler la peine que vous avez’ which roughly translates to ‘Yes, I can see how hard it is for you to pretend this is hard for you

‘A la chaîne’ means nonstop, one after the other. Comes from ‘travail à la chaîne’, aka working on an assembly line. Apt metaphor.

Also yeah the start of the song is divided between women and men, and in general, the song is… I dunno, more personal ? Like it’s less vague or general about poverty, there are more specific exepreiences, and it’s the factory workers singing, not random people on the street. It may also be because the adaptation combined this song with another one, ‘L’air de la misère’/’Tune of poverty/misfortune’ (‘misère’ is another annoying word to translate :/). It’s sung by Fantine after she gets fired, and it’s a more general and lyrical description of poverty, rather than the specific experience of the workers at the factory.

Men

La journée est finie, bien finie la journée/The day is over well over is the day

On l'a bien mérité le pot de l'amitié/We deserve a round of drinls to frienship

Le dernier que l'on se jette/The last one we get down

Attendant que la soupe soit enfin prête/While waiting for the soup to be ready

Et d'aller dormir enfin/So we can finally sleep

Jusqu'à demain/Until tomorrow

Sans demander son reste/Without further ado

Kind of a different atmosphere here, hmm ? The beginning of the 1980 version, which focuses on Fantine, is pretty explicit about sexism and gendered aspects of poverty.

‘Pot’ means pot, but it also means a little drinking party, or just drinks. Also as for ‘le dernier que l’on se jette’ the full expression is ‘s’en jeter un derrière la cravate’, ‘to toss one behind one’s cravat’. Aka, drinking.

‘Sans demander son reste’ can be translated with ‘without further ado’, but it’s not exactly the same connotations, it’s usually used when leaving or fleeing, you’re in a hurry and you might be a little scared.

Aime ce que tu as quand t'as pas ce que t'aimes/Love what you have when you don’t have what you love

Quand t'as pas ce que t'aimes, aime ce que tu as/When you don’t have what you love love what you have

Et nous aut' comme on'n'a rien/And since we have nothing

Ni le superflu ni le nécessaire/Neither superfluous or necessary things

On ne peut que s'aimer bien/We can only love ourselves/each other

Pour mettre un peu d'azur dans notre enfer/To bring a little bit of blue in our hell

Et pouvoir encore sourire, continuer à vivre/And be able to smile still, and keep on living

‘On ne peut que s’aimer bien’ can mean both ‘loving ourselves’ or ‘loving each other’. Considering what’s gonna follow it’s probably the latter. Also ‘azur’ is a fancy word for ‘blue’, and here it refers to the sky.

S’il est pas trop crevé si j’ai encore la force/If he’s not too tired if I have enough strengh left

Nous on se fait du bien quand les enfants s’endorment/We have ourselves a good time when the children are slepping

Entre nous et les bourgeois/Between us and the bourgeois

C’est avec la mort ma foi/it’s with death

Le seul moment où y a pas de différence/The only time where there is no difference

Et voilà nos vacances/And here are our holidays

Here you go, loving each other. ‘Ma foi’ is a phrase that wan mean ‘well’, or ‘my word’, it’s more of an emphasis than anything else. Translated litteraly, it means ‘my faith’.

So this whole paragraph states that sex and death are the only moments where everyone’s equal, and like that’s a nice poetic sentiment but in reality that’s really not the case. Try to take time to mourn when you have to keep working or starve :/

T’as vu le contremaître avait l’air contrarié/Have you seen the forman he looked frustrated

C’est la faute à la Louise qui l’a laissé tombé/That’s Louise’s fault, she dumped him

Si le patron savait qu’il nous fait des avances/If the boss new he was coming on to us

Il perdrait de sa morgue et de sa suffisance/He would lose some of his arrogance and self importance

‘Morgue’ is a fun one, yes it can also mean morgue, as in the place where you store bodies, but here it means arrogance, with a strong connotation of looking down on people. It’s a fancy word, speaking very roughly, French has three registers of speech, from most formal to least : soutenu, courant, et familier. ‘Soutenu’ is more often used in writing these days, and it’s pretty rare to see anyone speaking only in that register, but it’s not uncommon to use words from it here and there. As a result, it feels pretty old fashioned. Courant is… well it’s supposed to be ‘neutral’, as in it’s not connoted as either too formal/litterary OR too informal, but in practice, it’s used more in professional and formal settings. Speaking exclusively in that register outside of that can come across as a bit stiff. And finally, familier is informal, colloquial, used liebrally in informal settings, or more sporadically to spice up or emphasize your speech in other settings. A good chunk of it are words of Argot (aka slang) that became widely known. And this register is why I tend to swear a lot more in english than I do in french, as english doesn’t really have that register so it feels too formal to me without using ‘fuck’ as punctuation. Though keep in mind that this is my experience with french, so other might not see it that way ! Tengent over let’s get back to the song

So in this version the foreman isn’t a character, he’s just part of the background and another reason why work sucks.

Ce bon Monsieur Madeleine/Good Monsieur Madeleine

Qui sait être tolérant pourtant/However tolerant he can be

Ne permet pas qu’on se joue de la morale/Doesn’t allow for morality/morals to be defied/mocked

Et il le prendrait très mal/And he would react badly

Ahh, ‘la morale’. Another word that’s annoying to translate. Mostly because they encompass several things or meanings/connotations that are separated in different words in english. Here it’s more in terms of ‘morality according to society’ than personal morals.

Est-ce ton amoureux qui t'écrit en cachette/Is it your lover writing you in secret ?

Fantine, fais nous voir ce qu'y a dans cette lettre/Fantine, show us what is in this letter

Envoyez quinze francs/Send us 15 francs

Malade votre enfant/Sick is your child

Risque la mort sous peu/Risks dying soon

Vite, il faut la sauver/Quickly, you must save her

C'est signé Thénardier/It’s signed Thénardier

Not much to say, that didn’t change much in the adaptation, though here Thenardier is more blunt and alarmist.

Rendez-moi ma lettre, ravalez votre haine/Give me back my letter and swallow your hatred

Pensez à vos misères et laissez-moi la mienne/Think of your own misfortunes and leave me to mine

Allez rentrez vite, vos maîtres vous attendent/Go on home quickly, your masters are waiting for you

Oh ! pardon vos maris, vous qui en avez un qui partage votre vie/Oh ! sorry your husbands, since you have one who shares your life

Yeah, 1980 Fantine is… quite a bit more bitter than the other one (she is 100 % entitled to be btw). Less of a '''''''''''''good victim'''''''''. It’s clearer in ‘J’avais rêvé d’une autre vie’ (I had dreamed of another life), I might get to it later but the adaptation kinda butchered that one. But anyway, it also nicely ties back to the beginning of the song, which strongly implies that if you’re a woman, being married can bring a little bit of comfort but mostly fucking sucks (But they still use that to put themselves above Fantine)

Séparez-vous, je vous l'ordonne/Step away from each other, it’s an order

Je ne conduis pas un troupeau, c'est une usine que je mène/I am not leading a herd, it’s a factory I’m overseeing

Avant de vous prendre aux cheveux et quel que soit le différend/Before tearing each other’s hair out, and no matter the dispute

Dont vous allez me faire l'aveu/That you will confess to me

Sachez rester dignes quand même/Know to remain dignified

Et maintenant qu'on me révèle les raisons de cette querelle/And now reveal to me the reasons for this quarel

Again, no foreman here ! Valjean himself is dealing with this. I guess this was changed to make him more sympathetic (especially since in the book, he had nothing to do with firing Fantine, he didn’t even know about it). Also, ‘différent’ means, well, ‘different’, but as a known it means disagrement, not seeing eye-to-eye.

Bravo mademoiselle/Well done mademoiselle

on la croyait sérieuse/We thought she was responsible

mais elle était la nuit tout autant travailleuse/But at night she was just as much of a hard worker

la Eantine est fille mère/Fantine is an unmarried mother

Mais malheur à celle qui trop tôt gaspille/But woe to whoever wastes too early

La vertu, seule fortune des pauvres filles/Her virtue, poor girls’ only wealth

Tant pis, tant pis pour elle/Too bad, too bad for her

Oof, lots of things to say here ! So, unlike the adaptation, in which people assume Fantine is currently sleeping around, here they hone in on the fact that she had a child out of wedlock. It’s about what she did, not what she might be doing. So it kinda makes Fantine asking ‘Yes it’s true there’s a child and the child is my daughter, and the father abandonned us leaving us flat […] what’s the matter with that ?’ kinda funny. Because that’s it, that’s the problem. I dunno, in the adaptation it feels more like modern slutshaming than period-accurate stigma (not that stigma against single unmarried mothers has disappeared, mind).

‘Sérieux/se’ is another word with lots of meanings and connotations. It means serious, but also responsible, hard-working, thourough, etc.

Virtue → virginity.

Also, ine the stage production you can hear the disdainful quotes around 'hard worker'.

Bravo mademoiselle on te voit à l'église/Well done Mademoiselle we see you at church

Mais c'est pour d'autres messes que tu ôtes ta chemise/But you take off your shirt for another kind of mass

Et bien sûr elle va nous dire/And of course she will tell us

Que de lui elle était très amoureuse/That she was very in love with him

Mais Jésus, gare au serpent/But Jesus, beware the snake

Sa piqûre est parfois très venimeuse/Whose sting can be very venomous

Et les hommes c'est tout pareil/And men are the same

Malheur à qui leur cède/Woe to whoever gives in to them

Bravo mademoiselle/Well done mademoiselle

On n'a que ce qu'on sème/You get what you sow

Cette sainte nitouche y a touché quand même/Hhhhh ok so. A Sainte Nitouche is a very prude woman, who often makes a show of it. It comes form ‘N’y touche’, aka ‘doesn’t touch it’, so they’re making wordplay of it. ‘This Sainte Nitouche toutched it anyway’

‘But if you had kept your legs closed it none of this would be happeniiiiiiiiiing’ blergh. ‘Jesus’ here is not used as an expletive or anything, in fact it never is in french. French from France (it’s different in Québec) doesn’t have sacrilegeous swearing ! Hell, Damn, God, etc ? All extremely mild words in French. It’s very funny seeing english speaking people going ‘wow they said ‘hell’ in a kids’ movie, edgy’ when in french ‘enfer’ (aka ‘hell’) has as much edge as the word ‘potato’.

Je ne veux pas chez moi d'histoire de cette sorte/I don’t want this kind of business in my house/factory

voilà cinquante francs je vous mets à la porte/Here are 50 francs, I am firing you

‘Histoire’ you know the drill, it means history, story/tale, but here it means business, matter, problem, that sort of thing. ‘Mettre à la porte’ litteraly translates to ‘put someone at the door’, kicking someone out. Can be spiced up by replacing ‘mettre’ with ‘flanquer’ (fling), or ‘foutre’, which technically means to fuck but practically is used when you want to say ‘put’ but vulgar.

'Chez moi' is another trick one to translate. 'Chez' means 'in someone's house/property', etc. 'Chez moi' -> 'In my home/house/factory/company', though it's mostly connoted toward personnal houses/homes, and applying it to your place of business is a stretch of the meaning, especially if it's not a small busniess.

Fuck me, that is four word pages lol

[mintymemesandrpshop]

Ouran Highschool Host Club Bloopers, Part 1:

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[fuckyou-unbearablyindifferent]

RE: The last tidbit I posted.  IT’S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT SLUTSHAMERS AREN’T INCLUDED.

“I don’t like you ‘cause you’re such a SLUT!”

Sarah:

Sarah:

Sarah: I’m pretty sure I suck my boyfriend’s dick in private, but okay.  Sorry you’re gonna die alone I guess.

[ashintheairlikesnow]

What would Jameson do if someone degraded/was nasty to a fellow rescue or someone else in the safehouse?

CW for brief victim-blaming language

Be up in their face and pissed off immediately. He might not like the others at the safehouse except Allyn, but if they’re dumbasses, they’re his dumbasses now, so back the fuck off

I could see someone being a dick and calling Chris or Allyn or Sarita a whore and Jameson snapping back, “Wow, a whole houseful of sluts and yet not a fucking one of us will sleep with you.”

Then throwing a punch.