I, an sns shipper, am today-years-old when I encounter a fellow sns shipper who is also a Sakura anti, ss anti, and nh anti.
ISTG they are viler than any sns-anti I've ever met. Like... Kim, there's people that are dying.
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I, an sns shipper, am today-years-old when I encounter a fellow sns shipper who is also a Sakura anti, ss anti, and nh anti.
ISTG they are viler than any sns-anti I've ever met. Like... Kim, there's people that are dying.
Yo!
Okay so my theory is that Kishi always knew that the final villian would be a woman because otherwise Naruto's reverse oiroke jutsu wouldn't have worked. And Naruto was seen flaunting his new jutsu (that he practiced more than Rasengan 😏) from the first chapter of Shippuden. But Kishi took care of not showing it to us. Until Kaguya. Because she is a woman and will only be distracted by naked men. 🙄 And even though war arc was written a bit lazily, he must have known that he will have to introduce a new villian keeping in mind that they had to be a woman. And all the existing villians were men. At least, he must have had the barebones of that idea, even if not fully realized at the time. Kishi mindfully created a situation where Naruto would have to use that jutsu, which really speaks volumes, the jutsu as in. It also didn't escape my notice that Sasuke had to comment on the fact that Naruto's kage bunshin jutsu (often mixed with his oiroke, as was the case when he distracts Kaguya), is an attempt to dispel his loneliness. He distracted Kaguya with his oiroke men, many of whom suspiciously look like Sasuke, and Naruto does think he is cool looking (way more than Sai 😤😂). So that brings us to the conclusion that, Naruto must have practiced making Sasuke looking clones a lot in the blank period. Heheh aww. When Konohamaru makes the reverse oiroke with Sasuke and Sai, Naruto is mad. Because he does feel very very possessive towards Sasuke, as was already established. So he can make Sasuke looking clones to distract women but he wouldn't have Konohamaru making a quite explicit looking reverse oiroke of Sasuke. But again, Kishi guised it under comedy, like usual.
What do you think Kishi's intent here was, throughout? I feel like he played it very cleverly.
Heeeeey! Sorry for the wait, I had a lot going on these past few days.
From my point of view, the author's intent is not so easy to discern. In any piece of media we’ll be reading their work through our very particular perspective, no matter how much we try to be impartial and analytic about it. In the end is going to be OUR reading of the work in question, which often enough aligns with others but not always. Naruto fandom is a pretty good example of that. There are things you can establish as facts (Example: Naruto and Sasuke are important to each other. That’s a fact. Now, the way any fan chooses to interpret the nature of their relationship differs even between fans that ship them romantically) Art is already polysemic, allowing different interpretations of the same work, and I think that in NARUTO’s case Kishimoto tends to be a little (a LOT) ambiguous about some things, be it to have plausible deniability or to touch on themes that he can’t write explicitly.
Kishi mindfully created a situation where Naruto would have to use that jutsu, which really speaks volumes, the jutsu as in.
I’d say that he always had the Sexy Reverse Harem jutsu in mind and was just waiting for an opportunity to put it in the manga. The Last was announced in 2012. Already at that moment in War Arc he had to know how his story would end, and that there would be a sequel and all that entailed. He had plausible deniability if he wanted to try anything “funny”.
As for Kaguya, I really can’t say if he always had her in mind. She’s the most underdeveloped villain in all Naruto, besides maybe Gatou. But hey, he had to create her to make sense of the sequel. Doesn’t mean he can’t take advantage and put something as “questionable” as a bunch of naked men in a shonen manga. And make Naruto say he had practiced it a lot. But of course he’ll never explain that, and will use the plot to distract the reader from those little things he drops now and then. And it works, right? Because the most casual audience has never stopped to think: hold on, is it a normal hetero behavior to obsess over sexy naked men to create a jutsu that Naruto just got to use against one enemy??? Naruto, who wasn’t very good at transforming into other people in the beginning, who failed that first test to become genin, was able to transform himself into Sasuke perfectly in chapter 3? What does it all mean, really? -shrugs- But most people aren’t interested in that part of the story. So Kishimoto can get away with putting very ambiguous stuff into his story as long as he uses a distraction to take the attention from it.
I think the fact that Kishimoto was so insistent on drawing this scene speaks volumes about how relevant he thought it was, or at least how much fun he had doing it. It takes you back to the beginning of the manga, when Naruto used the Sexy Jutsu against his teachers. Sometimes you spend so much time on a story you need to remind yourself why you love it.
But as I was telling you, I don't know to what extent everything was planned that way. Sometimes readers can notice more connections between parts of the story than the author himself, and being a 15 years old manga, we can’t say that something Kishimoto wrote for chapter 3 was intended to have an impact beyond the first arcs of the story. But regardless of Kishimoto's intention, it’s a fact that Naruto spends time and effort on things that interest him, that matter to him in some way. And the fact that he put so much effort into pulling off a reverse harem jutsu with different types of men, all very attractive and different (despite the fact that some have that sexy dark haired look lol Naruto has a type), unlike his sexy harem jutsu which is just clones of his female version, shows how much attention Naruto pays to how other men look NAKED. Does that mean he was ogling guys at the onsen? Did he buy magazines with pictures of sexy men? Did he observe men in the village and practiced how to transform into them? It was something he did frequently, if his comment about how he practiced it more than Rasengan says anything.
It also didn't escape my notice that Sasuke had to comment on the fact that Naruto's kage bunshin jutsu (often mixed with his oiroke, as was the case when he distracts Kaguya), is an attempt to dispel his loneliness.
And you combine that two things, Naruto practicing the Sexy Reverse Harem Jutsu with his clones, his Kage bushin Jutsu being and expression of his loneliness, with this panel from the Road to Ninja Oneshot
...We can take it as canon that Naruto uses that jutsu to play cards with himself, as Kishimoto was the one to draw it. From playing cards to practicing derivations from his original Sexy Jutsu, I’d say it’s not a stretch to think it happened. And since Naruto probably had a lot of time alone in his apartment when he wasn’t on missions…
An archive of my conversation with user @sneezemonster15 because I also have the AUTHORITY to post my opinions and no one can take it away from ME /s. I am simply mirroring their energy.
Re: your last reply
Why should I be petty elsewhere? If you have the AUTHORITY to write whatever you want, then what's stopping me from writing whatever I want? No one can take that away from ME. I am simply mirroring your energy. Are you sure you're being genuine? Are you sure you're wrong to overreact? Then why is the post still up? Isn't it because it itches you sm that someone disagree with your holier-than-thou opinion? Who tf do you think you are? Fucking Kishimoto? You're a fan just like me. I can disagree with you just like you can disagree with me or other people's fanfictions.
Me? Making it needlessly personal? Look in the fucking mirror. Who did it first? Someone who doesn't have an empathy can only understand what other people feel if they experience the same thing. So I'll make sure you experience this too.
User @sneezemonster15, death threats, hate cult, Hinduphobia, and internalized misogyny
Lmaooo this is actually so funny coz is this really the best you can do??? Really??? Typing 'kill yourself' ANONYMOUSLY??? What kind of cowardish shit have I seen from a spineless, brainless sheep which obviously lacks critical thinking and reading comprehension this time? I've seen more imaginative and creative comebacks than this. You're stuck in the 2000s.
Looks like I struck whoever this shit's nerve more than I got mine struck lmaoo.
May I remind you that whatever I said to user @sneezemonster15 NEVER include death threats nor an attack on their race/faith/sexuality/gender identity?
May I ALSO remind you what THEY have done previously?
@sneezemonster15 is openly hinduphobic and, as you all have know, is toxic beyond belief. And I’m here to simply amplify the energy back.
Receipt of them previously harassing someone: https://www.tumblr.com/captain-shippard/658715899257389056/hey-sneezemonster15-just-unblocking-you-for-a
Receipt of them being openly hinduphobic: https://elves-of-the-east.tumblr.com/post/659205646903902208/staff-i-have-report-an-account-under-the-name-of
Receipt of them sending death threats and/or encouraging death threats: https://elves-of-the-east.tumblr.com/post/664680298292953088/were-you-block-on-that-sns-post-and-also-was
Not really important, but my personal rant: https://neolilac.tumblr.com/post/703446037100150784/an-archive-of-my-conversation-with-user
Less important rant: https://neolilac.tumblr.com/post/703450062141947904/have-we-forgotten-what-a-fanfiction-really-is
My general impression of this side of the SNS fandom which I think is way worse than all the SNS antis I've ever met lol. People can still ship pairs even though they're not canon, Susan: https://neolilac.tumblr.com/post/703452416931250176/i-an-sns-shipper-am-today-years-old-when-i