literally messaged birdy the other day, “the back of oscar’s head is flat because he was never picked up as a baby”
morris on the other hand was never put down and it made him super clingy and incapable of self-soothing. and neither of those things affect him at all later in life (lying)
The immediate aftermath of one of the trans newsies' visits to Snyder's office.
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T/W: Homophobia, transphobia, transmisogyny, period-typical attitudes/bigotry, implied s/a, abuse
can i also have a sarah jacobs breakdown? she deserves more love fandom wide 😔
literally unquestionably you can. god i love talking about my rat bastard boys and my beloved girl
alternatively: every day of my life is a delancey brothers breakdown
vague cw for mentions of unhealthy relationships i guess?
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morris delancey
how I feel about this character
bastard (even though he was the one born in wedlock).
i loooove him, he is a fascinating exploration of the effects of trauma and violence and complicity. he's a reflection of jack (well, i use him more as a reflection of michael for maximum pain, and because he's the younger brother) and a reflection of oscar. he's a sort of bridge between oscar and the rest of humanity, the quieter and more complacent of the two brothers -- younger and still...malleable, almost. he's the one who could almost still be saved, y'know? he's stuck between two worlds, does all this terrible shit but is still tortured with guilt about it, and for that he's that one quote to me -- the dog that weeps after it kills is no better than the dog that doesn't, my guilt will not purify me.
all the people i ship romantically with this character
morris, to me, is a fantastic place to explore more toxic and unhealthy relationships. he is soooo fucked up and clearly has never had any sort of healthy relationship in his life -- even his relationship with his brother seems codependent -- so of course almost any romantic relationship he's in would go terribly. but also, what would it take for it to go well? how do the parameters of going well adjust? could he and this other person ever get to a healthy place?
i have A Few ocs that morris is involved romantically with, but i won't lie and say exploring him and jack together isn't fascinating to me. they are animals in captivity and i have my nose pressed against the glass. also, a relationship that will make no sense to anyone but sparky: morris and blink+mush. there's lore there, i swear.
my non-romantic otp for this character
unsure if this counts, but. it's gotta be oscar and morris. they're da delancey brudders!!! for real, they are a fucked up kind of soulmates to me, and i could happily explore their relationship forever. codependent and traumatised, the kind of love they'd both kill and die for. an equal balance of unhealthy and so deeply genuinely loving. a relationship forged on them being all they've got, a belief that they're all they'll ever have.
my unpopular opinion about this character
probably just that he's interesting lmao. throughout my time in the fandom i've seen plenty of takes that the delanceys are boring, there's nothing there, and that liking them is any sort of red flag. but, man. they're both so interesting to me. and i don't think they're the one dimensional pure evil villains that they're sometimes presented as -- they are and always have been intentionally written and acted to have depth and complexity.
one thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon
speaking in the realm of this being a musical, i'm gonna be a sucker and say i wish they'd gotten a song, or just more to do in any song -- a verse, perhaps! the delanceys and snyder getting a verse together in the bottom line reprise has spun around in my mind many times.
speaking in the realms of canon in general, hmmm...i wish we'd gotten more insight into them just interacting. uksies did fantastically with it by having them onstage much more, fucking around like brothers together, but i would've killed for any of it to be audible.
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oscar delancey
how I feel about this character
bastard (in the literal sense too this time!). he's the worst of the two for me, and i love that -- mostly because i see him having good reason for it too. he's all sorts of fucked up, and had to raise his wee brother on top of that, through all of that. he was his da's right hand man, had to look after morris and their ma, then became someone snyder relies on too. he's always had too much weight on his shoulders, and as an adult that makes him almost childish with his violence. he's stuck between this sense of grand self-importance and thinking that he's dirt, and he'll take that out on others. he's my grand parallel to jack -- this image of what jack could've been if he was weaker, didn't fight to choose kindness at every turn. and i think both jack and oscar know that.
all the people i ship romantically with this character
i actually headcanon oscar to be on the aroace spectrum! he has no real interest in relationships or sex, but that doesn't mean i don't explore relationships with him too, through the lens of an aroace person trying to be "normal". i also headcanon him to be 20+ though, so he gets the ol' oc pairings to be toxic with.
i'll skip the last few questions since they're all really the same as morris, unless there's anything anyone really wants me to expound on (salute emoji)
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sarah jacobs
how i feel about this character
criminally underrated and seems to get the even shorter end of the fandom misogyny stick than katherine by virtue of being Nice. in ye olden days of the fandom she got the full character-bashing treatment, people turned her into a evil vapid bitch just there to cause problems for javid, and nowadays it seems like people are just adamant she should just be entirely removed for the crime of being "useless". and, sure, a lot of her scenes were cut and this can sure make it seem like she doesn't do Much, but man, she's still an important character.
she's kind and hopeful and smart, i love her talking about socialism in the original script, she's a representation of the female workers -- factory girls and garment workers -- who often get forgotten in the fandom and are even forgotten in the stage show, and she's a fantastic balance point for david and les.
everyone i ship romantically with this character
katherine!!! and not in the incredibly halfhearted way i feel a lot of the fandom "ships" them in, just to get them out of the way of javid without having to really think about it. i think the two of them are beautiful counterpoints to each other and would have fantastic chemistry, they'd inspire growth in each other and have so much to teach each other. and there's a certain Understanding that would come between them at being, to reference the secret history, the only girls in what is basically a boys' club. there's also just such an allure to queerness and sapphic relationships at this point in history, there's such beautiful history there.
also, jack! i think he and sarah were cute! sue me!
my unpopular opinion about this character
i feel like i've already referenced so many because its nigh impossible to dare to talk about her otherwise lmao, but another fresh one: she's so frequently mischaracterised even by people who don't ignore her. she's not vapid, but she's also not this stone butch that some people seem to think she is?? she is clearly feminine and enjoys dressing up -- the one scene we see her dressed in evening wear, she's got her hair curled!! she's wearing a very pretty, fairly fashionable outfit for the era! i think some people are just too eager to fit her into a trope.
my non-romantic otp for this character
ooh, hard to say -- especially because the narrative doesn't really give her many friends. i think she should get to meet the brooklyn girls though, they'd get along like a house on fire. i think she'd love spot and stray especially.
one thing i wish would happen/had happened with this character in canon
give her her song back!!! also, not to be predictable, but i wish she'd been in the stage show full stop. i get why she and davey's parents aren't, but man, it'd be so grand to have them in a scene like the scene from the movie, with jack going round for dinner and meeting them.
thank you so much for asking!!! i do wonder if literally anyone actually reads all of my ramblings about stuff like this -- but if you did, thank you!! love you!! if there are any other characters you wanna hear me ramble about, or points mentioned in here that you'd like to hear me talk about more, pls feel so free to ask <3
okay this ask has broken for some reason and will not let me post it and also Ate the response i initially wrote for it so we are DOING IT THIS WAY
@sparkedblaze
i am chewing on this!!!! ohhhh the sunk cost fallacy of it all, oscar believing he’s too far gone to change — can’t wash the blood off his hands — against jack who Reinvented himself, who turned around off of that wrong path and started walking back Years Ago, and oscar’s sure kelly’s miles away from him now. he Feels miles away, this stupid superhero oscar can’t touch despite the fact that they were together in the refuge once upon a time. there’s so much resentment between them, this almost. feeling of betrayal from both sides.
man they are so classic hero vs villain dichotomy, the traumatised hero who chooses to be kind despite it all and the traumatised villain who was broken by it.
tail starts wagging so fast you can hear it taptaptapping against the floor
ohhhhh my beloved narrative foils. two sides of the same coin, different reflections of the same circumstances, the difference between saying fuck it and gritting your teeth and continuing to fight.
in my heart they are truly divided by, like, one single branching choice — or maybe one single branching difference. the divide between jack choosing to be kind and oscar throwing that aside, or the difference between jack losing michael and oscar still having morris to protect. one difference years ago, and either of them could be the other.
sometimes, hotshot feels like he’s playing second fiddle in ike’s world. which, well, he is. and hotshot should be used to being second, just the same as he is in brooklyn’s hierarchy, in his whole life, and really it usually doesn’t bother him. but sometimes it wears him down. between everyone in brooklyn only listening to spot and ike’s world revolving around his brother, hotshot gets it in his head sometimes that he doesn’t matter at all. he doesn’t do anything for brooklyn aside from repeat spot’s orders and try and go by their word for his own, ike’ll blow him off without a word if mike needs him more - he just gets distracted, hotshot knows, he doesn’t mean it, he’s just so used to dropping everything for his brother - and hotshot’s nothing. a placeholder, the sort of thing that could be taken away without really affecting anything else.
so. hotshot goes a few days without being able to get ahold of ike at all. he passes message after message to manhattan that he wants to meet ike on the bridge like they usually do, wants to know if he’s free that night, wants to know if he can just come see ike, but only ever gets passed messages back that ike can’t make it then for some reason or another. he’s busy, he’s tired, he’s told everyone that he’s not seeing anyone tonight, told everyone to tell hotshot that he’s sorry but he can’t meet for a while. like he expects hotshot to just wait.
ike is wildly relieved when things finally blow over for him - maybe mike was sick or something, maybe it was a whole bunch of things that kept him busy and stressed beyond belief - and how much he missed hotshot crashes over him like a wave. he immediately tries to return any of those messages he’s been blowing off, tries to get message to hotshot that he wants to meet again - wants to make it up to his boyfriend, kiss him until he can’t breathe, hold him for hours to make up for the time they’ve been apart and apologise until his tongue goes numb. he wants to explain himself finally, rather than the silence he’s been unintentionally providing. but now it’s his messages that aren’t going through - everyone brooklynside is only offering shrugs, saying they don’t know where hotshot’s at, blindly guessing that maybe he’s busy or something. nobody’s seen hotshot - but nobody seems to care.
and maybe hotshot can handle silence like this, can sit and wait like a second-in-command does, when ike goes missing. but ike can’t. he heads straight to brooklyn to find his boyfriend, who wholeheartedly believes nobody is looking.