#spiderverse rant

[baddieladdie]

I went to this thing today

& it got me thinking *atsv spoilers*

In Pavitr Prabhakar's universe (Earth 50101), altering the canon led to a dimension disruption event

If Miguel O'Hara (Spiderman 2099) is correct and Miles Morales is the original anomaly...

...Then why didn't Miles Morales' universe (Earth 1610) develop a similar dimension disruption when the spider from Earth 42 bit him, turning him into Spider-man and preventing him from ever becoming the prowler? The Earth 1610 universe so quickly adapted making Uncle Aaron the prowler instead. Similarily, the Earth 42 universe did not *literally* collapse without a spiderman.

What I'm suggesting is: Maybe it was a 'canon event' for Miles to get bit by a spider brought to Earth 1610. That it was a natural succession of cannon events that lead Miles to challenge the accepted rules of spider-society 🕷

It was always canon for the canon to be broken

[blitz-bi]

Hey ya’ll can we talk about Miles and the number 42? Because atsv really made me think DEEP about this number and it’s connection even outside of Spiderverse media. Like, it was the number drawn in the lotto that allowed him to go to Visions in the comics, alongside his social media account in the 2020 video game just being BKLYNSpider42, to name a few.

And the spiderverse team just saw this and RAN WITH IT! In the best way possible! The numbers on that fall off the building that Miles falls off on in the first sp movie move into a 42 position. The spider in which some of us might’ve been at first oh haha funny had the 42 sybol on its butt, but NOW WE KNOW BETTER, because atsv just punted Miles into dimension 42 with his alter self that never became spiderman, and I am SCREAMING.

I even remember reading that the reason why 42 was even chosen was because it was the Jersey number of Jackie Robinson.

Am I the only one realizing how interconnected this man is with the number 42? No? Just me? Maybe this shit is common knowledge and I’m outing myself as like a fake fan. But WOW, I mean I had the pieces but the picture I’m finally making is just wow.

[ifieabouteverything]

Hi can we remember that characters are Multi-faceted

Rant based on the atsv fandom. I promise I’m not seething. This is very dramatized and my mood will change the next day. Don’t take this seriously.

Edit: I was right, its been 5 minutes and the agony is over. I have found fun funny people.

(VERY minor spoilers. More under cut)

- I am soooo disappointed in the early fandom of spider-verse right now. Maybe its because Ive been hanging around Tiktok when I really shouldnt, because its MOSTLY them with the bad takes but WHY are they SO bad.

- Im just going to start with the controversy with Gwen. Because thats happening for some reason.

- All over tiktok people are treating her as irredeemable and undeserving of Miles, as if she hadn’t gone out of her way to see him even though she wasnt allowed to. Even though the writers gave her a conflict with her father that was supposed to pull the audiences heart strings.

- Its as if people can’t see characters as anything more than one-dimensional. I appreciated every character in spider-verse because they were all so multi-faceted with their own flaws, positives, and motives.

- It just irks me to see people put down Gwen simply because she was slightly stand-offish with Miles. She had so much going on and it made SENSE for her to not want to risk everything she was given. The gift of traveling dimensions, of being safe from her father and to make friends that understand.

- Branching from Gwen, MIGUEL. I love him, he’s great, his backstory is so unique and explains his motive and character perfectly. Again, he’s multi-faceted, and I appreciate that SO much.

- But why is every fanart on tiktok I see JUST him and how hot he is. I understand, hes hot, and thats fine! Its also great because it gives fans something to talk about other than spoilers. But its the ONLY thing I see. Gwen was practically the second main character other than Miles in this movie. We were introduced to her conflict and then her resolution.

- Why not talk about Peter B. and how he must be feeling with Miles in danger?

- Why is Miguels hotness talked and drawn more than that, more than the PLOT. On tiktok AND tumblr. And I can bet that if I check instagram it’d be the same.

- Secondly, the love triangle. I think I can speak for everyone when I say that there was relief at how there was no true love triangle. The spiderverse characters did so well in making romance a component but not the main focus. So why are some fans trying to FORCE a love triangle?

- Examples are: People hating on Gwen, saying she was playing with Mile’s heart by fooling around with Hobie.

- People saying Miles had 100 times more chemistry with Morgo/spider-byte than he ever did with Gwen.

- I love ships, im very big on the fact that people can ship whoever they like as long as its not incest or pedophilia. Im not even the biggest Miles x Gwen shipper. But putting down ANOTHER ship just doesnt sit right with me, especially since its false? The writers are amazing, and they DID amazing at giving Miles and Gwen cute subtle chemistry. All these ship wars just seem like another play at hating Gwen.

- Spiderverse is amazing, and I love that the first movie was a great hit. But it was praised for its story-telling, art, and worldbuilding. The second movie just, isn’t, and I wish it was. Of course, with show and movie fandoms expanding, theres gonna be toxicity introduced. Like this one person who was revulsed by the idea of Gwen being trans, even with her trans pin on her backpack, her protect trans kid flag, and her signature colors.

- Its expected, I just wish it wasn’t.

- Maybe im just on the wrong side of social media, maybe I should wait until I can wedge my way into a spider-verse sub-community fandom I wanna see. Or maybe I just have to wait until this all blows over and then the fandom will revert to character and plot loving. Who knows.

- Im usually not the type of person to be hung over something like this, and I truly don’t think this beginning view of the movie will stick. I promise I don’t hate when people have fun in fandoms.

- Thoughts just needed to be put down and perhaps heard. Soooo if you read all of this, congrats! You have been hit with my very temporary negativity. Don’t let it drag you down! Enjoy the good parts of the fandom as I try to wiggle into those sections!

[ghostmistdraws]

SAW SPIDERVERSE LAST NIGHT!!!

OH MY GOD

I need to see it again immediately

[addictwiththeart]

Idk if it's a hot take but I despise Miguel so much simply bc he is a major hypocrite. He is exactly like Miles- someone who wasn't suppose to be spiderman and bc of FATE they became spiderman. They're not the model spidey either and they get carried away in their personal goals until its too late and they lose someone they care about. Do I understand why Miguel likes to be in control and keep the canon? Yes! Do I think he's right for it? Absolutely the fuck not. Just because he didn't get his way doesn't mean Miles can't without disrupting the multiverse. He doesn't even bother to let Miles EXPLAIN himself, and constantly switches btw calling him a child who doesn't get it to chastising him for not being the most canon abiding spiderman. HES A CHILD, HALF OF THE SPIDER SOCIETY ARE CHILDREN. If he wants to be a role model, he has to listen.