Was anyone else watching Walker 2.04 totally flashing back to this scene from Supernatural 12.14?
By trying to play the peacemaker, like Sam's doing here, Cordell ends up disappointing everyone around him.
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Was anyone else watching Walker 2.04 totally flashing back to this scene from Supernatural 12.14?
By trying to play the peacemaker, like Sam's doing here, Cordell ends up disappointing everyone around him.
Source: abordbelimpala
12x14 - The Raid
Do you feel robbed and manipulated and queerbaited by spn?
Me:
Big turning point for Dean and Cas , they said !!!
Still on s12 in the TNT loop... and heck, s12 looks different through the lens of 14.20. I mean, I said that before, but the entire BMoL plotline is just... it’s just so much more satisfying with textual confirmation that they were always a narrative contrivance, you know?
The whole “Code” they lived by, with their black and white absolutes become more horrifying with the context that they were always the representative of this Good vs Evil narrative drama Chuck is the ultimate representation of.
The BMoL is the antithesis of Free Will. They were the stand-in for every previous Big Bad.
12.14 looks very different with the “Stop lying!” screaming fit in 14.20. Heck if attempting to hide truth from each other didn’t escalate every issue they had in s12... one of my big tags for s12 was “lies and damn lies” after all...
But Dean’s conversation with Mary at the end of the episode takes on new weight now:
Dean: When I thought something might've happened to you, nothing else mattered. Mary: Dean, the things I said- Dean: No, Mom, you were... It's not your job to make my lunch and... kiss me goodnight. It's- We're adults. You're gonna make your own choices, even if I don't like 'em. Even if I really, really don't like 'em. That's just something I'm gonna have to get used to. Okay, Mom?
Dean is forgiving her, while simultaneously condemning her choice to work with the BMoL. But also condemning the fact that she tried to hide it from them, and expressing his own regret that he could’ve sacrificed his own relationship with her when she did finally come clean about it.
This is, yes, what the conversation in Mary’s mind in 12.22 was all about.
And in 14.20, Dean faces this same situation again with Jack-- from the opposite side of the parent/child coin.
12.15, The last time Dean is able to reach Cas on the phone before 12.19, which becomes an increasingly desperate feature of every episode between now and their reunion over the Mixtape Scene... I’m just gonna start screeching right now about Castiel and his unrelenting need to feel useful. To be needed. It’s just heartbreaking, and Dean is just finally beginning to get a sense of that at the end of s14.
12.15 asks us again, what is a monster, and 12.16 answers through Claire’s agency in choosing the werewolf cure, Mick’s reassessment of The Code (culminating in his struggle to deny the code in 12.17 and let Eileen live, while the Chuck-Insert BMoL kills him for it and begins their plan to “wipe the slate clean” and start over with a new crop of hunters who will OBEY rather than think for themselves).
The end run of s12 becomes about Agency, Free Will, and Choice, and becoming aware of the bigger picture of what’s actually going on. In a smaller scale, this is exactly what happened in 14.20.
It also becomes about What Family Is, what we’re willing to forgive, what we’re willing to do for the people we love, and what ties us together. TFW is still struggling with their places in the world, the legacy they’re leaving behind, and as we now know, they’re still not aware of the Biggest Picture of how their entire lives are still being manipulated by the biggest outside force of them all...
Heck I am gonna need to do a proper rewatch of this entire series instead of continuing to just jot down disjointed thoughts...
Is Sam really gonna be able to do the whole bmol thing tho? I'm just thinking, like, Sam does not like letting other people make decisions for him. As much as he does let people he trusts (Dean) tell him what to do sometimes, he HAS to feel like he knows what's going into the decision Whether that comes out in him talking it out with the person and then deferring to their wants or in him taking charge himself like he did in this episode, he has to see where the decision is coming from or he won't do it. Look at how hard he fought against John controlling him. Look at how he fought yellow eyes. Look at how he fought Lucifer for heaven's sakes. LOOK AT HOW HE FOUGHT TONI. He will not lay down and take anything from anybody unless he thinks he knows what's going on. As long as he knows, he has the control he needs And he's particularly wary of letting people manipulate him after all the crap he's been through. He's not going to take orders from some higher up in this organization that he's never met. He's not going to let the old men pull the strings like he's a puppet with glass eyes and a wooden brain. He's taking this organization down. He's just going to do it from a position that gives him some control. A position where he has the power to kill bad guys and the control that comes with knowing that they don't know what he knows No offense, but this is classic Sam And in the interest of character development, I would not be surprised if the one thing that's different is that he chooses to keep his family close this time
Nice job. From “Hi, Mom, glad to see you,” to “What the f*ck, Mary” in the blink of an eye.
Bonus (thanks to @ahoyspn):
(This is what broken hearts look like.)
“Im not just a mom and you are not a child”
“I never was”
this is such a big step for Dean. he never adresses all the shit hes been through and most of the time in the show his feelings are looked over, somehow he always accepts everyones decisions cause “they are family” and now hes here calling his Mom out, who he memorized every little detail of her life because he admired her and loved her so much, and Dean always held his parent in such a high place, he never admitted they might be wrong but here he feels abandoned and forgotten by the person hes missed all his life, but hey shes back so i shouldnt ask for more. Except the she lied to him and people have always lied to Dean but Mary is just someone who calls when theres a job and shes not even earned the right to be family and Dean knows this and hes been avoiding that but when she straight up betrays them he cant ignore it anymore and Dean being self validated is such a big step for him and im crying please help me