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My first ever fancam/AMV/edit (idk?)
Dean Likes Boys
"like a coming-out situation"? oh, okay. i see, you think this has nothing to do with you. you go to your closet and you select, i don't know, that purple flannel, for instance, because you're trying to tell the world that you're a manly guy and you take yourself too seriously to care about what people read into it. but what you don't know is that that flannel is not just purple, and pink and blue, it's actually the bisexual colors and someone carefully selected that for dean to wear on his date with cas. you're also blithely unaware of the fact that spn being a collaborative project means you don't get the final say on everything your character becomes and that shirt is only the tip of the iceberg that represents millions of decisions and countless references that queercode dean a thousand times over. and it's sort of comical how you think that you've made a choice that exempts you from this queercoding when, in fact, you're wearing a shirt that was selected for you by the people bringing your character to life. and you couldn't keep your eyes off your co-star, nor could you leave that coat in the lake or resist gently folding it
Bobo: And instead it kind of became like pepto bismol balloon pop.
Rich: It definitely felt like a gender reveal party gone awry.
Bobo: And honestly, I think that kind of serves, I mean, not to bring this up, but kind of like- the intense pink pop of it all kind of ends up serving as kind of queer reading of an episode. That was definitely not intentional, but when I watch the episode now, I’m like- It really does feel like I’ve designed it to communicate queer subtext. A lot of it was incidental to the work I was doing, just, you know, managing the story that I had and the idea that I had.
Rich: You mentioned queer subtext. Was there something else in that episode that was queer subtext?
Bobo: Yeah, I mean, I like- Look-
Rich: I wish America could see the look you just gave me.
Bobo: It comes down to the Destiel of it all. You know, the Cas/Dean story, which- I’d inherited that Dean kicked Cas out of the bunker at the end of the last Dean/Cas myth episode. So it was an episode of them kind of coming back to a bit of a reconciliation and I just watched the first 15 minutes of the episode this morning and I was just like- reading here is so clearly- that’s not that the intended meaning was romantic, but it is about a relationship and that Dean feels guilt about how he treated Cas. So he leaves the bunker to go at the first opportunity to reach out and make amends for the fact that he was for various reasons still compelled to kick him out in the last episode. But what it can be read as and was read as by many fans is like, he’s sneaking out because he misses his boyfriend. Even like sort of management of Sam and Kevin back at the bunker, it’s like “Oh, no, I’m going to this thing.” He’s kind of pretexting and they like “Is that what this is about?” It’s just a reading of this that is kind of like a heartache for Cas. Which the intended meaning was really like he cares about Cas, he’s his friend, he misses him. But it ends up reading as kind of this romantic story with like looks for over the gas station. I remember screen caps coming, flooding back to me on Twitter when the episode aired of like Dean looking at Cas through the glass in like- There is a romantic subreading of the episode that fits in extremely neatly and that plays out by accident very perfectly for readers who want to read it through that lens.
Rich: The only thing that I picked up on, just to prove that I’m not completely immune, is when Dean gets the phone call- “Well, well, well, you haven’t called me-” That sort of like watch for the silent treatment, you know, kind of vibe. That now is kind of like- that had a little bit of a twinge what I would read into that as sort of romance or maybe romance is too strong of a term. But you know what I mean. That sort of like- There’s subtext there.
Rob: Well, also with Castiel’s character. There’s almost an asexuality to Cas, right? He’s- could go either way. You know what I mean? And Dean sort of showing him to unbutton his shirt and loosen up and “This is what women like”. There’s stuff that could be read in there of him TRYING to be straight or trying to do the thing that humans do.
Bobo: Playing those roles. And part of that story is about- where Cas is in his story is about Dean, you know, wanting to help his friend and seeing his friend in a situation where he kind of doesn’t know his way. And really that’s the meaning we were writing when we were breaking the story, but then you get screen caps of Dean telling Cas to unbutton his shirt and you get a look over his chest as he does. And it’s like- that stuff became very quickly- The funny thing was, I think, some members of fandom already determined that I might be their sleeper agent inside the show because of some random, slightly jerky tweets I tweeted before I joined the show. About things like “Oh, it’s so boring writing straight characters.” They were like “Oh, he’s our guy.” And then episode kind of ended up fulfilling that expectation that was it for them.  Â
-Rob Benedict, Richard Speight Jr. and Robert Berens Supernatural Then and Now
Heaven Can't Wait with Robert Berens (S9EP6)
Over the better part of the last decade, I have discussed and written so much about Supernatural from the perspective that its queer love…
Castiel’s confession is the tip of an iceberg, but some either cannot or will not see what is under the water. Whoever determines where the water line lies seemingly holds power over us all.
The final episodes may have abandoned everything the show had built to and its characters had earned, but at the very least we were left with an indisputable love confession confirming the queer romance. And while Castiel got to say it, to interpret Dean’s tearful silence and sobbing breakdown after Castiel confesses and dies as nonreciprocal, and to read their entire relationship up to that point as one-sided, both regardless of and especially in light of that revelation is to ignore the real heart of the matter.
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While it is so tempting to just sit in this space where queer stories and the way they are told are not in question, when people can use their ignorance to discredit queer expression and when this ignorance itself is a tool of social coercion both enforced upon and by the people wielding it in order to uphold power structures that deny queer people access and autonomy, then I suppose we need to step outside of it once in a while.
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Some have been open and supportive. Some have been nuanced and contemplative. Some have been reminiscent of confused evangelical pastors reacting to Pride tweets. But at the end of the day, we are no closer to a universal acceptance of queer stories and especially not of the one at the heart of Supernatural.
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I do wish more of them would try to embrace that deconstruction because they truly want to grow and better understand something that affects so many people, particularly when they speak publicly on it and profit from their visibility in doing so. I wish so many responses did not reflect a fear that in validating queerness or acknowledging participation in something queer, perhaps especially without having known so, some perceived inherent queerness within themselves will be treated the same way they treat it. As much as I may wish for these changes, they’re certainly not things that can or should be forced. We can hold people to higher standards and expect them to do better, but when they don’t this is their failing, not ours.
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We have created fan works to explore every possibility or interpretation or wish, and their existence and enjoyment in no way serve as evidence that the canon story was not queer on its own. Fan fiction is a subversive art form, taking restrictive ideas and stories and freeing them into a space of unfettered creativity, desire, and collaboration, and though some may act derisive about it due to what I can only assume are deeper insecurities about their own place in a creative and cultural hierarchy, fan fiction should not be discounted as a powerful avenue for queer autonomy and for the affirmation of queer storytelling traditions and communities.
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Queer storytelling has always been shaped by what cages it and it has always used love and utter humanity to turn its bars into windows. To turn locks into keys, within stories and without. We’ve never needed to be told who we are and we don’t need to be asking now. It is our refusal to be erased from the narrative that fuels our refusal to be erased from the world. Sometimes, just existing in it with conviction is both the easiest and hardest resistance of all.
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There are no arbiters of queer storytelling, and we do not need to wait for one to appear for Supernatural or any other form of queer expression. Our stories speak for themselves. So do we.
Going down the line of bloggers going good game good game good game and high fiving while the losing team (people who thought misha was bi) are mumbling good game before we all go get our capri suns
Two of my top three all time ships currently dooming over half the ship acquiring a child—oh what I’d give to go back to those days with destiel
My girl #mygirl
20 years late is still fashionably late, right? So I just finished season 1 of Supernatural and dare I say I have a favourite brother 🫣
Do you know these blorbos? Evan “Buck” Buckley and Edmundo “Eddie” Diaz
They’re my besties
I know of them and/or their lore
Never heard of them
If you answered number 3 I am begging you right now to watch 911 9x13 on Hulu and tell me after what you think you know about them.
Falsely worship at my feet Confess to me I′ll be your judge Promise I'll condemn
Godstiel and his trueform.
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There was this time a couple of weeks ago – I was sleeping, and I was dreaming about you, just like I am always dreaming about you, and in the dream we are in the car driving eastward with the sun hanging huge and low in the rearview mirror. I don't know where we are headed, but it doesn't matter because it's us, and I figure it's fine as long as we are going.
some snippets from my fic Dreaming Hours turned into a little comic :)
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i love you like a lover.
“The writers became aware of it, and they started writing little winks and nods to it, without ever really…it was always the kind of thing that could be like well, it could be that, or it could be something else. So when Bob Berens, who is the writer who wrote the episode where Castiel made his declaration of love, he came to me in season 14 and he said I have an idea for the end for Castiel, and if you’re okay for this ending for Castiel, where Castiel actually says I love you and not I love you like a brother, but I love you like a lover, if Castiel says that to Dean, that’s his swan song, before he dies, would you want to do that, and I was like YES. So Bob Berens, he said he was going to leave Supernatural, he was going to go do something else, but he stayed the entire year, of season 15, just so he could write that one scene for Castiel. And so it was sometime in season 14, when it was like oh this is real, this isn’t just oh you could read it that way or you could read it another way, so all of season 15 I knew that was where that were going with that.” —Misha Collins at CCXP 2024, December 5, 2024, about how Destiel developed in the canon