#sw critical

[chissjedi]

Having an extremely beloved canonical AroAce character accused of suppressing important emotions is EXTREMELY BAD.

[blackwomeninstarwars]

Aside from its anti-blackness/racism, the general deterioration of Star Wars as a multi-faced story results from people failing to understand the messaging behind characters like the Jedi (and even the Sith). Failing to understand, and desperate to flatten it into something so binary and unfaceted, reactionary viewpoints are the guiding principle.

So, now we've got god-knows-how-many television shows and films (canceled or completed) that problematize the Jedi (and are far too sympathetic/lenient with Sith and Empire ideology) and their philosophy, and people who unironically believe "the Jedi bad, actually" telling those stories.

And, all of this, honestly, started with (non-miniseries) The Clone Wars show, and boiled over with the Sequel Trilogy.

[kaxtwenty]

I may get crucified for this, but as a work of science fiction, Andor feels a little insincere to me. It feels very hesitant to fully embrace the weirder aspects of Star Wars—the aliens, the space magic, etc., and seems to believe that it has to abandon them wholeheartedly in order to get its point across. Which I just don't agree with in the slightest.

One of the things that made the Original Trilogy so special was how much it embraced the freakiness of its world and I'll always see Andor's hesitancy to do the same as a major flaw.

[gamelpar]

sorry not sorry but star wars will never convince me that the first episode of the bad batch is canon over the kanan comics in regards to kanan's story. kanan comics did everything better with kanan himself, the clones, order 66 etc. get that butchered and whitewashed narrative out of here

[lilywalkers]

i have many issues with how the sw sequels handled the worldbuilding and plot, but my greatest complaint for them is how they introduced interesting characters but failed to follow their stories through with any depth or thought. the main character is a girl who, somewhat uncharacteristically for star wars, doesn’t fall into the saint or whore archetypes (at least initially). the force awakens highlights her loneliness, her unrealistic hope for the return of her parents. then there’s the ex-stormtrooper, the coward, the traitor. while rey’s instinct is to wait, finn’s is to run. and poe’s instinct – as the perfect model of a rebel, brave and headstrong and determined – is to fight. he may also be a little irreverent, but he undoubtedly believes in the cause the most out of the trio.

but they barely even interact until the last movie of the trilogy, and by then their characterization is so fucked up they’re almost unrecognizable. rey is flat, her choices only really serving the plot, not her own arc. finn hasn’t been given an arc at all, only a half-assed love interest with whom he has no chemistry and who gets discarded in rise of shitwalker anyway. poe’s arc is that of a manchild learning to prioritize the cause over his own opinions – something that doesn’t align with the portrayal of him in the force awakens. the previous trilogies are so incredibly character-driven, so it’s a stark difference to see how much of the plot simply seems to happen to the characters, rather than the characters having actual power over the story.

[generalpierrotdameron]

"The idea of Sabine training as a Jedi when she is already this fantastic warrior of her own type, we felt like this is overkill," Gilroy said. "I had nothing to do with the Ahsoka series, so I was shocked because pretty much our entire story team, we discussed it in season 3, we thought it was a bad idea."

Star Wars Rebels Writers Have One Major Problem With The Ahsoka TV Series

[the-hawks-rye]

[Lying to myself:] Woah I can't believe they brought back Legends-style cloning in disney Star Wars... if you're going to do it then do it like in Heir to the Empire— when it was introduced with the character Joruus C'aboth; what a neat reference to Thrawn's first appearance! —it should be some years after the New Republic is established :). Our Sabine was obviously replaced with force-sensitive clone Sabiine. Actual Sabine must've headed out on the search for Ezra earlier and hasn't come back... hope she's doing well and makes it home... miss you girl... Clearly this is the only explaination for Sabi(i)ne to be force-sensitive and they didn't mess her character up badly! Haha I bet the non-legends fans are totally confused about why Sabi(i)ne just seems a little bit off all the time ;)

[fluffycakesistainted]

The Rise of Skywalker could have continued to build on the ideas Yoda presents to Luke in The Last Jedi. Rey could have held her own amongst a bunch of legacy characters and been the 'nobody' who saved the galaxy. Instead, she becomes a vessel for the most boring and uninspired kind of nostalgia. Rey takes on Palpatine, and The Rise of Skywalker seems to think that we'll buy the stakes presented. But the shoehorned story about Rey battling an evil legacy is a cheap cover of what the filmmakers really want to do: make this story all about Luke Skywalker.

Rey defeats Palpatine by melting him with Luke and Leia's lightsabers, killing herself in the process. It's Ben Solo who cares enough to give his life to Rey. She comes back to life, and suddenly the power of the dyad, 'a power like life itself', isn't enough to save Ben Solo (the actual remaining member of the family the movie is so obsessed with). [...] Rey doesn't learn how to be enough on her own, independent of any lineage. She doesn't get to be with Ben, and her friendships and the themes of found family that Star Wars does so well are set aside in favor of fetch-quests and nostalgia worship.

Madilyn Ivey - How Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker's Focus on Nostalgia Hurts its New Heroes (Collider)