#t:tdw

[avengerscompound]

Tom Hiddleston as Loki Thor: The Dark World

[lokiinmediasideblog]

been reading your recent loki metas and i find myself agreeing with a lot of them. just wanted to bring it up, something about the intentions or flow behind the redemption plot-template (unrelated to characters) used in the loki show is very... walmart tony stark to me if that makes sense. the shallow misread of narcissism in a very hollywood angle, the way he's made to present himself sometimes, the finale basically being: "narcissistic" selfish little man -> biggest selfless sacrifice made by a "hero" except, unfortunately, loki's character study didn't quite get the same level of "respect" like TS did (iirc its been a good while since i've watched the movies). the humbling framing was very questionable to me too. things that wasn't unintentional (?) woobification weren't addressed properly and he also had his "rougher edges" sanded down into the hero persona, probably due to character mishandling and the decade long gap. remembered someone saying he's everyone's favorite villain who hasn't been a villain for ten years which feels very on the nose. while i personally love most of the show despite all the untapped potential its a little redundant in terms of "redemption" arcs (not that he needed a Standard Cookie Cutter Hero Redemption in the first place in my opinion but eh). both mcu!loki and tva!loki arrived at the very same self-sacrificing tragic end lol tva!loki's is just easier to digest for the general audiences and well... doomsday... here's to hoping he has more than 3 minutes of screen time as a macguffin since alex perez also mentioned something about putting that centuries long acquired time-physics degree to good use. bit of a detour but also i just. i personally wished sylvie wasn't introduced as a loki?? especially the whole superior loki framing, which is the cause of a lot of blowback on her from what i've seen. i feel like you can get rid of that aspect and it wouldn't really change anything. since they ended up half-assing the loki variant storyline to build up kang anyways they could have actually let her be her own character who's mourning her own life that she's lost to the tva. more so an observation, the angle they went about sylki as self-love doesn't really hit for me, maybe because it feels too much like self-rejection even in s1 in my opinion. in s2 they should have stop being cowards and lean into the threeway angle/hj feel free to ignore this ask or agree to disagree any parts, if you do have any thoughts i'd be happy to know. have a good day !

"he's everyone's favorite villain who hasn't been a villain for ten years" exactly!!! They tell us he's this very despicable villain, and tend to attempt to frame him as "the worst", but he ends up coming short to other characters that get more narrative sympathy in terms of what we're shown he actually does. Like, as hard as it is to believe due to how much Loki defense and woobification I post, I don't usually woobify characters. Loki is an exception in many ways for me because there's something about how the people behind the narrative go about it that irks me.

I usually cheer them on. Like "Yes, king/queen, betray everyone!" In fact, that was how I initially interacted with MCU!Loki until I rewatched things, where I was like "wait a minute...". At first, I was like "Yes!! Kill them all! Thanks for killing Coulson!" But there's a very annoying and contradicting attempted narrative framing going on with MCU!Loki where they pretend he's the worst TM, even worse than Thanos! And it gets old very fast when there's not enough to show for it. I feel like they're lying to me, and it makes me spiteful.

I can see the Walmart TS thing, and it does bother me A LOT... Like they're just rehashing that without care for his characterization, and after T:TDW, he's also put into more humiliating situations for the lulz that add to the disrespect and lack of care for him. And he really doesn't act the way the Loki from A1 would have. This is the guy that was gouging eyeballs a few days ago. Like, if they wanted an easier transition, why did they not stick with Loki at the start of IW? Apprehended for failing to die? I think a lot of the decisions were questionable. There's so many fixes that could have made the show flow more easily. I am currently dreading whatever the fuck they'll do to Loki. I've checked out of the MCU at this point. Lol.

Also, I see people say Loki's lower quality writing now is because he was meant to die in T:TDW, but he could have been written decently afterwards without hogging the spotlight. Like, there was a lot of unnecessary shit in the SNL-like TR, and the LS writing seemed to be STALLING without getting the plot moving often, especially in S2. In fact, he has never hogged the screentime the way he's accused. The fact that Loki gets framed as this cancer draining all the resources and screentime by Loki antis and the Marvel creatives irks me so much. Also, the whole hogging aspect would be expected, if you're making a series titled after him. They did so little for his characterization despite him being the focus. It's the "Introduce the new plot device: the TVA & set up the next Big Bad in vain" show instead.

As for Sylvie, yea, I agree she would have worked better for me if she wasn't a Loki, and they put SdM and a bunch of people through unnecessary wank by making her a Loki. Like, I have nothing against self-cest. But she really doesn't feel like a Loki, and the few times she does in fic it's because the author went out of their way to do so. Like they did archaeology-level digging on whatever little they showed to get there. And I think if you have to put that much effort, the cannon writing was not successful in showing that. Like, I'd have at least made them have a Loki x Leah aesthetic if I'd gone the self-cest route... they could have actually felt like self-cest rather than Spidermen from different universes. If I'm thinking a Loki, I want more spice than "killed people that were trying to kill me." That's self-defense...

I think Sylki would have been better if they had leaned into making Sylvie the MCU's Enchantress and the adaptation of Enchantricks (the safer bet, and I think it'd have been more wildly accepted though the dudebros would get mad her costume is not comics accurate), or if Sylki was a bit like Loki x Leah aesthetic if you want to go the more unusual "-cest with a lot of extra steps" route. That would have been the braver choice, so make it worth all the fandom wank! Make it weird!! Not this half-assed thing we got. This is a very dumb and superficial hang-up I have over Sylvie, but I don't like that she's blonde/brown-haired when they're going for the self-cest route. Give her a black wig to match Loki. Lol. And I REALLY feel in my heart she'd have been 30% more popular with black hair... It's a surprisingly common complaint.

And lol, in S2, they should've gone the 3-way route so I can make my two cents polycule joke about OW. They cheated me out of a joke by not doing so...

Anyway, thanks for the ask! It was enjoyable to read and rant about this!

[amethysthollis]

Tom Hiddleston - Behind the Scenes of SDCC 2013

(Loki, God of Mischief - San Diego Comic Con, 2013 - Thor: The Dark World Featurette)

[giltandgreen]

Thor: [to Malekith] If you're a Dark Elf, why are you white?

Loki: Oh my gods, Thor! You can't just ask people why they're white!

[willbcyers]

my therapist: blonde zachary levi isn’t real he can’t hurt you

blonde zachary levi:

[natasharomanovs]

(12/30) mcu challenge: least favourite ship

“Once I retrieve Mjølnir, I will return to you the items they stole from you. Deal?” “No. You think you’re gonna just walk in, get our stuff, and walk out?” “No. I’m gonna fly out.”

→  Thor and Jane Foster, Thor

[beautifulterriblequeen]

Am I the only person desperate for clarity as to how Loki went from wearing

to wearing

??

Did Thor smuggle Loki’s entire outfit into the prison under his mourning poncho?

And what about Loki’s hair? Did Thor bring him hair products too? 

Or did they sneak back to Loki’s room for a closet-and-vanity-mirror prep montage? Would Thor really risk poncing about the castle with his princess freshly rescued from the tower dungeon just so Loki could glow up? Would Loki insist on taking the time or he wouldn’t help? (Ha, he’d try)

Or is he really running around for the rest of the movie in a prison tunic and frizz?

[lifeofmarvvel]

Heimdall, The Gatekeeper of Asgard and Protector of the Bifrost, as portrayed by Idris Elba “You’re on a planet surrounded by doorways. Go through one!“