Aedion Ashryver is a hell of a character. Change my mind.
Aedion Ashryver is an absolute emotional and moral powerhouse of the entire series.
The guy:
is loyal to the point of pain – literally and emotionally.
In "QoS" when he knew he would be sentenced to death but still he wanted to die on his own terms and damn it, he almost succeeded!
His determination to die with dignity, on his own terms, without mercy, without self-pity, without begging – THAT'S CHARACTER.
He knew he had broken the rules of Adarlan. And seriously – he was one step away from leaving with such a bang that only Aelin could stop him at the last moment and change the course of history.
And Aelin entered this scene. He had already accepted his fate.
He wanted to die like a hero, but he is still alive and our beloved S J Maas allows him to be ridden even more.
Now he has to live, fight, love, fail, torment himself… and grow as a human being. Because life is a harder road than death.
Carries tons of trauma with pride and jokes on his lips.
14 years old taking part in a historic battle? Put on his CV. Orphanhood and loss of family? No problem.
Despite this, he still listened to others and acted for his beloved cousin even though he didn't know if she was alive at all, he was willing to die for her even before he knew she was alive,
created an internal, silent resistance movement before it was fashionable: LOSS
didn't have time to enjoy time his beloved cousin who definitly will makes his hair turn gray
lost his Blood Oath, Aelin,unknowingly, deprived him of the only dream he had for himself and despite everything he was proud to fight alongside Rowan, even though Aedion himself is a fucking legend
turns out that his mixed heritage is not just a part of his blood but actually half of it! And that from a warrior he's a fan of
met his Old Man, one of the last people connected to him by blood but hated him for leaving his Mother
unconscious humiliation by his beloved Aelin at the end of "EoS" That wasn't a plan. It was a continuation of his trauma - dressed up as "reason".
And that with a woman he started to feel something for.
Because let's be clear: he didn't want to be the "solution". He wanted to be loved.
And what did he get? Duty. Again.
He deserves his own whole trilogy.
He wanted to be loved unconditionally and once again he became a sword.
The Old Guard (comics + movie) Comprehensive Timeline
Edit: 14 July 25- updated to comply with TOG 2
I spent way too much time spent researching the comics one night resulting in this, my TOG magnum opus, including every confirmed event up until the beginning of the first movie. If there's anything I missed let me know. This is mostly for my own purposes, but absolutely feel free to use it for your own fics/art/meta/etc
Also thank you @yumekuimono for the putting together the photographs on Copley's hyperfixation board, which inspired me to make this.
It's long, so it's all under the cut. Enjoy!
4500s BCE:
Andromache is born in the Western Steppe, later known as Scythia, now known as the Ural region, mostly. Fifteen or so years later her mother(figure) gifts her an axe, naming Andy as her successor instead of her sisters. Five or so years later Andy's mother plans to have her killed out of jealously. Andy doesn't die, though her mother is killed in the conflict. Andy kills her attackers in revenge, then goes back to lead her people as a pseudo-god for an unspecified number of years.
500s BCE:
Quỳnh (Noriko) is born in modern day Vietnam (Noriko in Japan).
330ish BCE:
Lykon is killed for the first time following Alexander The Great to Judea. Andy meets him not long after (comic only canon, the movie doesn't specify when Andy and Lyon meet except to say it's after she meets Quynh).
630s CE:
Andy meets Quynh in Alexandria while fighting with Amir ibn al-As. They become inseparable and travel with Lykon and Yitzhak for a time as roaming soldiers (anything about Yitzhak, so far, is comics only canon)
Note- There's no firmer information on Yitzhak aka Isaac Blue at this time, apart from him being Jewish, a contemporary of Lykon, having been with Andy in the year 1950, and now living in Alaska. There's a wonderful analysis of his likely timeline by @nevermindirah who places him around the time of the Second Temple, somewhere between 500 BCE and 70 CE.
1066:
Yusuf ibn Ibrahim ibn Muhammad ibn al-Kaysani called al-Tayyib is born in Maghreb, North Africa, to a family of merchants
1069:
Nicolò di Genova is born in Genoa, Italy
1099:
Joe and Nicky meet and kill each other and, according to word of god (aka Greg Rucka), get on to the more pleasurable type of physical relationship very quickly after.
1100-1230:
Andy and Quynh are spotted around the crusades, likely to find Nicky + Joe
1200s:
Noriko (comics only canon) is killed many times fighting rogue samurai around feudal Japan
1550-1600 (Renaissance):
Lykon dies for the last time. Joe saves a young artist from a fire in Genoa, forcing them to avoid Italy for 100 years
1500s (late):
Quynh and Andy attempt to free people from the witch trials and are caught themselves, leading to Quynh's underwater imprisonment.
Andy is then freed by an immortal she has yet to meet, Tuah
(In comics canon, Noriko is lost after falling off a ship somewhere near the Horn of Africa during a storm)
1700s (late):
The Guard are in London for a time. Joe saves a coffee shop owner from the stocks, Andy gets a new axe (that is still very much the same axe, to her).
1770:
Sébastien LeLivre is born in Marseilles, France.
1789-95:
Andy, Nicky, and Joe are at the Paris Commune. Nicky and Joe aren't speaking at the time.
1790s:
Andy meets a former West Indies slave turned British soldier turned highway robber named Achilles. Andy follows him to Australia, starts a life in a small town.
1812:
Booker dies in Russia while following Napoleon. He's hanged for desertion. The Guard meets up with him a few years later. (Note, it's very likely Booker was conscripted in the place of a richer man in exchange for a fee, or as blackmail material, given that married men were exempt from the Grande Armée and even the Imperial Army's levée en masse. My theory is he was caught by a banker or shop owner for his forgeries, and was therefore forced to take the man's place in the army).
1830s:
Booker hangs out with his youngest son Jean-Pierre, likely towards the end of his son's life, at a Parisian restaurant. Andy leaves Achilles for an extended amount of time to go to Jamaica, likely for the Baptist War. She comes back to find him dead, killed by their neighbors. She then razes the entire town in retaliation.
1834:
São Paulo. Joe jumps through a window as a distraction for reasons as yet unknown.
1853:
1850s:
Joe and Nicky spotted on the ground of the Crimean War.
All four are together for a mission involving a hedge maze, a cannon, and a beheading.
Joe, Nicky, and Andy in Rome for the Italian Risorgimento (reunification).
1863:
Nicky goes undercover of sorts in the American Civil War as a Confederate soldier in Pennsylvania. Joe is helping the slaves Nicky frees along with the Quakers in York. The Guard appear at the Battle of Gettysburg
1870, September:
Booker and Andy meet in San Francisco after Booker unknowingly saves Merrick's great grandfather in a frontier town because of an inexplicable feeling he should stay to help
1887:
Nicky and Joe save a young person in Zanzibar, presumably the victim of a hate crime
1904:
The Guard prevent a coup in Haiti
1914-18:
The Guard fight in The Great War. Joe saves a little girl who becomes the youngest Nobel Laureate in Medicine. Andy fights in the Gallipoli campaign and in France
1916:
Andy saves a refugee family in Montenegro, one of whom goes on to develop early diabetes detection.
1917:
Andy takes part in a battle in Passchedaele, Belgium, and adopts an orphaned boy, Zeus
1932, November:
Joe and Nicky go to a bar in Berlin, run into the person they saved in Zanzibar, and punch a Nazi.
1944:
Andy is involved in the French Resistance in WWII
1945, August:
The Guard prevent a third atomic bomb
1950:
Andy and Yitzhak eat a meal made for them by Zeus somewhere not in the US
1956-59:
Joe, Nicky, and Booker are spotted helping the Cuban Revolution
1968:
Nicky and Andy appear at MLK speeches separately. Joe and Nicky rescue a man from a cave (poss. Onyx Cave, AZ in Oct. or Gory Hole, IN in Nov. -US cave incidents are very well recorded)
1969, July:
The Guard take down a pedophilic serial killer in Minnesota (possibly based on Stanley Rice). Nicky and Booker stay to track down everyone who knowingly let the killer go free. Joe and Andy head on to San Francisco to watch the moon landing at a bar.
1970s:
Andy and Booker in Rome
1975, April:
Andy helps in Operation Babylift in Vietnam
late 1970's:
Andy lands in Cleveland, not knowing where she is after a job. Coincidentally, she cleans herself up in a restaurant owned by Zeus, who she hadn't seen in decades.
1978:
Booker gets captured by a cult of murder- and sex-obsessed nuns in NYC. Three months later Andy rescues a reluctant Booker from the nuns' compound in Guyana
1989:
Andy helps people escape East Germany
1992:
Booker serves as a combat medic in Sarajevo. Nicky attends university under the name N Smith (likely a graduate school given the wording of the ID. My guess, either for medicine or computer science, both of which were rapidly evolving at the time)
1994:
Nile Freeman born, South Side of Chicago, IL
2000s:
The Guard rescue children in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. They are also linked to the US 10th Mountain Division in Afghanistan.
2005:
Nile's dad killed in action on the ground as a Marine
2012:
The Guard take a CIA assignment in Surabaya, Indonesia, with Copley and Booker as the point persons
2013:
Andy goes by the alias Alexandra Black in the Czech Republic
2014:
Joe goes by the alias Joseph Jones in Germany. The Guard is seen in Syria near an USAF F-22 bombing site.
2019:
Andy takes a break to travel. Joe and Nicky travel to Eastern Turkey. Booker is contacted by Copley on behalf of Merrick Industries.
2020:
Nile dies for the first time in Afghanistan at the hands of an enemy insurgent. Official record has her killed in action. The events of the movie (aka comics Opening Fire 1-5) commence. Booker returns to Paris in his exile, where he receives occasional grocery drops from Joe, and is later kidnapped by Quynh.
2025:
Events of The Old Guard 2 (a complete break from comics canon)
(Enjoy my drawing of what I think Vaughan looks like)
One of the many things that facinates me about the Cadre is the potential within their inter-personal relationships. Now, admittedly I'm going to be getting into a Lot of my personal HCs about the Cadre's history and place as a part of Maeve's court, especially Vaughan since there is quite literally nothing about him except that he's a sea bird and is a master of not confronting the issue (U go girl, give us nothing to work with) so, this is not to be taken as just an interpertation of canon (though there will be some of that), but as my personal "what I wish we got."
Alright, with that disclaimer over, the Cadre is *old.* Canonically, Gavriel is it's oldest living member at about 600 years old, but by no means is he treated as it's founder. He was not the first bloodsworn, and as a fairly prominent character, especially in relation to Aedion who IS the founder of his own unit, the Bane, I feel it would have been mentionned or alluded to if that were the intention. So, the Cadre is old as BALLS. My guess is that they were formed during the first vlag conquest, and thus the original members of the Cadre would have been contemporaries of Brannon Galathynius and Athril.
My personal headcanon is that while Gavriel isn't a founding member of the Cadre, Vaughan is. Vaughan was there when the first oaths were sworn. He was the youngest of his cohort to swear, an abandonned child turned squire, and has served faithfully ever since. He served for centuries before Gavriel was even born. He's lived longer that any creature, even fae should, and his mind cracked under the pressure. He could not handle the weight of his own memories, and so his mind protected him. (Does the oath sustain him? Does it trap his soul in a body that can barely breath? Is his magical well just *that* deep?) He has raised and trained generations of bloodsworn, lived so long that their names, faces, deaths blur together.
And just like his own mentors, the original members of the cadre who first swore blood oaths to Maeve, he wasn't gentle. He didn't really know how to, even when he tried to be. And that was fine with adults, with men who had been chosen from the ranks of Maeve's army and guard, like Gavriel. But Lorcan wasn't an adult. He wasn't a blooded soldier when Maeve chose him, and put him in Vaughan's care. He was still a child, who'd never had stability, never had a safe haven, or a gentle guiding hand.
He got one of those from Vaughan, and it was stability, though he needed the other two just as desperately.
And it all got so much more complicated after Vaughan's mind started falling apart, and he started both forgetting how he treated Lorcan and basing his attitude towards Rowan (and Lorcan) on observations of how Gavriel taught. How Gavriel was gentle and patient with his teaching, while still staying firm. Lorcan resents Vaughn for the way he was, is glad he was different for Rowan, is grieving the loss of a man who took care of and understood him more than clean cut gavriel or noble-born Rowan ever could. Which comes right back around to resenting Vaughn for his "weakness" of mind and the precieved abandonnement, while being glad that vaughn can't remember the vulnerabilities Lorcan let him see when he was younger. And I think, Lorcan, deep deep down, envies Vaughn the capacity to just forget everything they've done and everything that's been done to them. Because Vaughn no longer wakes up screaming, and so many of his old triggers (triggers Lorcan once knew like the back of his hand) are just gone.
The series is so so so good for being running for 14 years, with weekly COLOR CHAPTERS DO YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND HOW BIG A DEAL THAT IS?!
And the story has been so consistent with the plot, the most impressive thing abt TOG is how crazy the plot is. That there’s still so many plot twists THAT ARE DONE WELL, that the plot is linear even after this many years and the escalation of events makes actual sense
Bam becoming more morally grey as time goes on is also really well done i think, Bams character makes me uncomfortable at times but I also cant fault him for it either cuz we see in real time WHY he changes. Its not like w Khun and Endorsi where the reasons for how cynical their characters are happened before entering the tower. Their moral codes are defined when we meet them, where as Bam’s is the one literally being made as we watch him. He has the naïve understanding of a child since he grew up knowing nothing beyond what Rachel taught him and he’s taught that the world is grey by being thrown into the deep end. He’s literally taken by the Mafia/FUG, taught that his friends lives depend on him and him alone so yeah no wonder he also ends up developing a possessive streak too
I liked that in season 3 Endorsi’s character is developed more and we see beyond her fascination w Bam, I just especially liked the showcase of Endorsi knowing Khun and Bam well enough to know what their next move is and Endorsi standing up for Bam and showing Lilial that the world is bigger than the Lo Po Bia’s.
I liked that we actually saw Bam stressed abt Khun and Rak being killed and actually seeing it happen in real time as every time Khun was killed before, Bam is only there for the aftermath.
I liked the confirmation the moment of Urek realizing Bam is from the Outside and telling him that the Tower actually is NOT Bam’s problem and he has EVERY right to leave if he wants to.
And yall dont need to get me started on how much I love Bam and Yuri’s relationship that to me reads as doting older sister w OP baby brother who is AWARE of how doting said sister is.
I love the unhealthiness that exists in Khun and Bam’s relationship AND THE FACT THAT IT IS MUTUAL
THE HUG HOW CAN I NOT MENTION THE HUG
I love the moment Hwaryun breaks her know all characters briefly to actually warn Bam for once that she might be taking him down a route that he could even resent her for. That might be the first and only time we see Hwaryun actually show that she does care about Bam and her relationship with him, that it matters to her at all cuz all this time she firmly emphasizes that she does things because Bam is her ‘God’.
don't worry I very much continue to be on my TOG linguistics bullshit. today's installment: what is Nile's hieroglyph
The English name Nile and the Arabic names en-Nîl and an-Nîl both derive from the Latin Nilus and the Ancient Greek Νεῖλος. Beyond that, however, the etymology is disputed. Homer called the river Αἴγυπτος, Aiguptos, but in subsequent periods, Greek authors referred to its lower course as Neilos; this term later became generalized for the entire river system. Thus, the name may derive from Ancient Egyptian expression nꜣ rꜣw-ḥꜣw(t) (lit. 'the mouths of the front parts'), which referred specifically to the branches of the Nile transversing the Delta, and would have been pronounced ni-lo-he in the area around Memphis in the 8th century BCE. (source)
the mouths of the front parts hehehe >:) alternate literal translations include the naked mouth (hehehehe), the mouth of the neighborhood, and my personal favorite: the mouth of abundance
our abundant Nile ✨
none of the hieroglyphs for those are especially pretty though, and our Nile's an emoji user, she doesn't need the etymology to be flawless, she needs her icon to be iconic. so I present to you:
nꜥrt
conventional anglicization: naret
a sacred tree
the main shape is the tree heiroglyph: 𓆭
supported by a throwing stick: 𓌙
and a loop of rope: 𓍲
the throwing stick is thought to be one of the hieroglyphs that were borrowed and transformed to become the Phoenician alphabet, specifically gimmel, which went on to become Hebrew ג, Arabic ﺝ, Greek gamma Γγ, and eventually English Gg.
g as in gulp. y'know, that thing Booker does whenever he thinks about drinking from the sacred, abundant Nile >:)
There’s no way Dorian is not immortal, or at least capable of making himself immortal. I refuse to even consider it.
You’re telling me, the human boy more powerful than any living Fae in the known world, whose powers can match (and daresay overpower) the Demi-fae heir of Mala, is somehow perfectly human??? All that power and might, condensed into a mortal body when he inherited it from a Demi-fae herself some thousand years ago.
Aelin having all that power in a partially fae body, who could shift forms since birth, and destined to settle by her twenties, and yet the only person who could match that might unquestionably…is an untrained mortal boy barely older than her.
No. There’s no way he’s purely human. Either those Fae genes are gonna wake up at some point, or all that magic will keep him young. Sure, he has less magic than he did before the Lock. But what remained, if trained the way Aelin was trained, I daresay is still more powerful than even Rowan.
I think the term, “flaws” as a necessity for writing well-rounded fictional characters is often misunderstood. It can lead to new writers thinking these flaws should be in a laundry list alongside their OCs hobbies, eye color, and favorite food.
All of the above traits shouldn’t exist in a vacuum. They all need to serve the story in some way, usually by illustrating plot, character, or themes in a way that enhances the story.
Saying a character’s flaw is that they’re “clumsy” isn’t really a flaw unless this trait stands between them and what they want in a meaningful way. Being clumsy is an obstacle for a dancer, or for a teenager who will be socially judged and derided in a meaningful way to the story. Even still, it’s a somewhat shallow and overused flaw.
What got me thinking about this is the fanfic characters I tend to enjoy writing are flawed people. The more flawed, the better.
I struggled to write Nicky and Joe in The Old Guard because they don’t really have any flaws. They’re never stupid, or selfish, or awkward, or mean. I couldn’t really write them until I wrote a story where the plot is that one of them gets returned by amnesia to his pre-character development Crusader self, back when he was prejudiced, quick to anger, and provincial in his world view. Then I had somewhere to go with them.
By contrast, Newt and Hermann from Pacific Rim are riddled with flaws, and it made them not only popular characters, but a blast to write. They’re rude, loud, snarky, selfish, self-involved, self-important, arrogant, and mean. They’re also both sincerely trying to save the world and willing to sacrifice themselves to do it if necessary. It makes them a wonderful mass of contradictions and it makes them feel like real people.
And recently I wrote about my desire to write Dream and Hob from Sandman as more like their comic selves, with all the rough edges and taciturn misanthropy and selfishness and rudeness that implies. I don’t want to write perfect people.
I saw a post that imagined Hob as passionate about returning artifacts stolen by the English to their country of origin. It was a very sweet post and fun, don’t get me wrong. But as a perverse creature, my first thought was, “Ok, but what if he wasn’t? What if he, as a former bandit and soldier for the Crown, wasn’t in favor of the artifacts being returned? What if he was the opposite?”
Now to be clear, I think it’s more in character for the brief glimpse of the Teacher Hob we see for him to be more worldly, more in favor of repatriation. I genuinely think that take is probably more accurate to the character.
That’s not the point.
The point is that I think one way to avoid creating these sort of perfect shiny soft characters with all the rough edges sawed off is to ask, “Ok but what if they didn’t do the right thing here?”
What if they don’t have perfect, up to date progressive political views on all possible topics? What if they weren’t always altruistic? What if they don’t always say just the right thing to their lover when that person is feeling down? What if they have moments where they’re stupid, selfish, insensitive, prejudiced, rude, awkward, or off-putting?
Personally, I think that’s how you get more interesting characters, who are more like real people and, more importantly, have room to grow or sometimes not grow in a way that better serves your story.
Another day, another round of "Booker should've never been mad at Nicky and Joe amidst his grief!" bullshit that once again centers all this shit on Nicky and Joe when it's not about them.
Grief is a monster. It digs its claws in you in ways that leave unimaginable scars. And losing a child is a *far* different monster than losing family or losing friends. I recently lost my dad and, while the grief was overwhelming, the thought of losing my son is earth shattering. Losing a child upsets the natural order of things and, if you listen to anyone who has lost a child talk about it, it's a pain that never heals. Not after five years. Not after ten years. Not after twenty or thirty.
And Booker had to do it not once, but three times.
And Jean-Pierre, his youngest and last son, dies at 42 years old. The same age Booker was when he suffered his first death. He dies of cancer in a time where there is no treatment, no way to ease his pain. Jean-Pierre dies a horrible, slow death and Booker has to watch it, knowing that his son hates him with every fiber of his body. There is no reconciliation, no forgiveness, no closure.
And that wound inside his soul bleeds. And bleeds. And bleeds. Because there is no way to heal. Grief ebbs as time passes and you're able to try and move on with your life, but when time has stopped at a stand-still for Booker? There is no way to move on.
We can see the complete and utter devastation on Andy's face when Quỳnh is simply mentioned, and this is 300 years after losing her. The pain that Booker is carrying around from the loss of his sons, after a little more of half that time? Unimaginable.
Joe and Nicky got off light. And it's not about them. Because, as Booker correctly pointed out, they had each other.