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Sees you have headcanons for gender in the devildom/celestial relm. My eyes do the anime glasses thing dispite not wearing glasses.
GO ON
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YES YES thank you for asking abt this uhhh i have been dying to post something about it but i wasn't sure if other people would be interested ? since it's fairly niche but uhh apparently you would >.>
under the cut so as not to utterly flood people's dashes with my ramblings but! click if you'd like some unnecessarily in-depth discussion of 1) how the different realms in obey me deal with gender/gender identity and 2) my personal gender headcanons for the obey me characters. this is mostly pieced together from one night when i went all pepe silvia in discord but hopefully its now somewhat digestible. thanks for your patience!
ok so first of all: all three realms interpret and approach gender differently. i don’t think any of them are inherently wrong or bad, it’s just unique ways of viewing the same concept. i prefer the devildom way of looking at it but to each their own :] it maybe goes w/o saying but trans people are supported in every realm, no matter how they view gender !
GENDER IN: THE HUMAN REALM
obviously, the human realm in the om! universe views gender pretty similarly to how our world does. this is sort of like our baseline, where humans generally view gender on a male/female binary. (tho i do like to think that this version of earth is more welcoming to nonbinary and trans people, just cuz i do like a bit of escapism <3)
ultimately gender in the human realm is the most simplified version we will see. i actually have a small headcanon that MC, regardless of gender, is referred to with they/them because this simple gender structure doesn’t translate over well to the other realms
GENDER IN: THE CELESTIAL REALM
with that in mind, we can talk about how the celestial realm views gender. this gets into the whole ‘what is the gender of angels/god’ which is probably outside my expertise to talk about, but i will anyway!
the celestial realm views gender as, ultimately, unimportant. what matters about a person is who they are, like one’s willingness to help others. most of the angels present masculine and use he/him, as in the image of their Father. there are some who choose to use she or they or present feminine (or any combo of pronouns/presentation), but they arent necessarily ‘boy’ angels and ‘girl’ angels.
it’s basically like this:
so what are you?
i’m an angel!
no, i mean, what’s your gender?
i’m a messenger of our Father
ugh, that’s not what i meant. what’s in your pants?
oh, so that’s where my halo went!
transitioning, for lack of a better term here, is pretty rare in the celestial realm, but it does happen occasionally. michael will update the records with their new name if they so choose, and celebrations are thrown heavenwide in honor of the angel!
GENDER IN: THE DEVILDOM
now, on the flip side, the devildom almost...reveres gender? since they’re the polar opposite of the celestial realm, demons tend to hold gender up into the spotlight instead of rejecting it. this is why we see so many demons presenting as men but having feminine aspects (like asmodeus wearing pink off the shoulder tops or the demons’ painted nails).
for angels who Fall, this difference can be very jarring and hard to deal with when they become demons. expression is important in demon culture! while angels see all others as made in their Father’s image, demons emphasize the things that make them different from one another. fluidity of identity is particularly celebrated!
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GENDER HEADCANONS: BROTHERS
now here’s the fun part, which is how i interpret these characters! feel free to let me know your own headcanons, i love seeing how others view the same characters :]
LUCIFER: sure, he’s a demon now, but he still somewhat aligns with the celestial view of gender. to him, a person’s character is much more important than how they label themself. he’s just...lucifer. (agender man, he/him)
MAMMON: has always considered himself a man! one of the rare instances of someone transitioning in the celestial realm. lucifer helped him pick his name :] (trans man, he/him)
LEVIATHAN: levi my beloved <3 ive shared some headcanons on levi’s gender in this post, as well as in the tags of this post. i think he really likes the freedom of demonic gender identity, and is very fluid (genderfluid, he/she/they/it)
SATAN: looooves fucking with gender, particularly if it irritates lucifer. he’s read a ton of gender theory and would love to have discussions about human gender with MC if they want. feels a connection to masculinity, but not to actually being a man (transmasculine, he/they)
ASMODEUS: loves fucking with gender even more than satan does. had gender with your mom last night ;) super gender non conforming, though most of the time you can’t even figure out what gender he is! basically the definition of ‘gender is a performance’ (nonbinary, he/she)
BEELZEBUB: probably doesn’t think too much about his gender. he was told he was a man so he just kind of goes with it. it’s really important to him to align with a healthy form of masculinity! doesn’t seek out pronouns beyond he/him, but wouldn’t mind she/her or they/them (nonbinary man, pronoun indifferent)
BELPHEGOR: similarly to beel, probably doesn’t think too much about his gender. he knows he enjoys being a brother and a twin, but doesn’t care much beyond that. he used to ascribe pretty heavily to celestial gender theory, but after Falling he’s shifted from gender apathy to like. seeing that feeling as his gender identity itself (agender man, he/him)
GENDER HEADCANONS: SIDE CHARACTERS
DIAVOLO: literally just a guy. like hes just a dude but in a slightly fucked up demon way (nonbinary man, he/him)
BARBATOS: literally look me in the eyes and tell me this dude isn’t a he/they. he’s not a man, he’s a butler (agender, he/they)
SIMEON: really subscribes to the celestial view of gender/believes that who you are in other people’s eyes is just as important as who you are in your own! doesn’t really identify w gender in any way since angels don’t technically have a binary to deviate from, but in human terms he is (nonbinary, mainly he/him but she/her ok too)
LUKE: also transitioned in the celestial realm! the brothers tease him, but if anybody misgenders the chihuahua, they should be prepared to eat shit (trans boy, he/him)
SOLOMON: started out as a sorcerer while trying to alchemize testosterone. he’s been living as a man so long that sometimes he forgets he’s trans in the first place (trans man, mainly he/him and occasionally they/them)
I'm aroace and I'd like a platonic partner matchup with a male genshin impact character please (only if you're okay with that, I know some people don't know how to wrote it and that's fine)
I am ftm and I love singing and fine wine! I like ouji lolita style clothes but when I'm casual a pair of jeans and a dark button down will do. I have light brown hair that's auburn in the sunlight (currently a split dye pink and green). My eyes are a steely blue and I have two beauty marks one above and one below my left eye. Though I have a strip of light freckles across the bridge of my nose and cheekbones lol. I'm chubby because I can't exercise much, I'm disabled and use a cane, but I do my physical therapy like a champ
I like cuddling and light kissing (minimal is best on that front though) I can should must and will play with my partners hair (the longer the better!!! I will learn how to care for all textures/curl patterns so I can play with my partners hair more!! :D)
I have adhd, dyscalculia (like dyslexia but with numbers and directions), and ocd so I tend to see things differently than other people
I love drawing, writing, singing, and dancing (badly lol) and I am always up to learn something new (esp languages)
I love hearing people (especially my partners) ramblings about anything and everything they like or are passionate about
I interact with this fandom from a sideblog so I'll be on anon for now lol
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Hello love! Nice too meet you and welcome ^#^.
I match you with...
Kaeya!!!
Hes cold as ice, that is untill he meets you
He meets you at Dilucs Tavern having some fine wine, and Kaeya being Kaeya he makes his way over to where you are and asks if he can join you. “I have not had that one, mind if i try some? What do you think of it?”
For once hes not teasing Diluc in his own tavern. Hes completely focused on you.
He loves your style, i mean the man has fake fur on his shoulder. Something he really enjoys is going clothes shopping with you or for you. He has to match with you so he gets a necklace or matching gloves .
Kaeya is all about supporting you through everything you do. Hes right there coaching you through a situation if needed and always has a light joke ready so he can see that smile on your face.
Kaeya is the number one person to ramble on and on. About his brother, the knights or a certain traveler or a strange nun . He holds your hand while you too sit on a bench people watching, he rambles about his surroundings and your always happy to listen
Kaeya will ask you daily to play with his hair. It feels nice, and its a nice calm situation where he can just let go and relax for once in his life
“Kaeya? Where are we going? Its almost nightfall arent you worried about the hilichurls?”
He turns to you, helping you steady yourself and gives you a sweet smile. “Just the other side of the bridge, not far i promise. And me? Scared? Never.” He tells you, confidently.
Keaya had set up a little blanket spot next to the water , he helped you sit down and joined you on your side pulling you too him. “Ready Markus?”
“For what?” You ask , leaning into him.
He points to the now night sky and a mix of fire, electro, cryo, and hydro are flying through the sky in unison. It lights up the sky as they fly over you too. Kaeya kisses your head and smiles at how excited you are. “It took some convincing , those archers, but i wanted to do something special for you”
“Kaeya.. thank you”
He holds you close in his arms. “Welcome, Markus.”
Hi videogamereference is my sideblog so I can't exactly send asks from it but would you share any trans Levi headcanons you have 🥺
HI THERE you've activated my infodump card by asking me this question um. i have a whole draft of trans levi hcs that i never really finished formatting so they're going to go here hehe
overall, i'd say my gender headcanons for levi fluctuate WILDLY. i don't think i'll ever really settle on anything, but for the purposes of this post, i consider him genderfluid and pronoun indifferent (using she/he/they/neopronouns).
hasn’t ever shied away from wearing stereotypically feminine things
used to do ‘fashion shows’ with lilith in the celestial realm and that manifested later in his enjoyment of fem cosplay
everyone else figures out she’s trans before she does
(lucifer, as loudly as possible: having brothers is cool but i sure wish i had more than one sister)
(levi, not yet cracked: yea, that would be so cool! anyway, check out this skirt asmodeus lent me that he said would look really good on me!)
he’s one of those people that just sort of assumed everyone had a complex relationship with gender? and doesn’t really realize for a while that his experience is different
probably had The Revelation from a combination of anime bodyswap b plots and conversations with mc about gender in the human world*
doesn’t feel the need to change their name or presentation too much
similarly, gendered terms don’t upset her or anything. satan asked how they should refer to her and she doesn’t mind brother/sister/sibling
if he dates mc, they can call him anything: partner, boyfriend, girlfriend—he’s just happy they’re together!
It was so good i loved every second of it! And it all made sense too!!! The whole "were the celestial relm, and your identity doesn't matter because we love you but it's not in an uncaring way it's more in a 'why would I need that to love you' way" and how the devildom practically worships identity and personal expression partly because "fuck you old man upstairs" and partly because "i need to be seen for who I am. Nobody will look at me for me anyways so I might as well love me."
Also the phrase "he's not a man. He's a butler!" Made me laugh so hard
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AHHH im so glad you enjoyed!!!! i was so excited someone wanted to hear my thoughts on trans levi and gender in obey me :D historically im known for creating incredibly Niche Content like that, so i'm just happy other people are interested
and yes!!!! yes!!! this explains it so perfectly!!!! the angels have a view of like. looking at the self through the lens of others, wanting to be helpful and moral as well as impartial based on appearance. meanwhile the demons kind of flip that on it's head, seeing others with their own experiences to back it up, thinking about the self first and valuing who you know yourself to be other than what others think of you. god. gender <3
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