#vietnamese war

[goldenzingy46]

learning about the vietnamese war in history class in britain is fucking hilarious because all the history teachers are far left so they just go “here’s the list of war crimes america committed in a war they lost, here’s the countries they bombed and ruined, they really had no reason to be there in the first place even if they hated communism” and then hand you an exam

[theodorebasmanov]

I’ve watched “Hair” and it’s a very cool hippie musical. The music is very… the sixties. Very rock-n-roll. And that means I enjoyed it a lot. And the plot is a little strange and has a very unexpected and overwhelmingly dramatic ending. I thought that it’s one of those movies which start with nothing and ends with nothing. But it isn’t. It begins with a simple guy from Oklahoma going to New-York because he was conscripted (and it’s Vietnamese War). He has two days in NY and he wanted to go sightseeing but he meets a group of hippies and accidentally joins them (because they offered him to meet a girl he liked). (I suppose, Spoilers!) Some stuff happens, we got one of the best quotes:

Prison Psychiatrist: You have any sexual attraction towards men?

Woof: You mean if I'm a homosexual or something like that?

Prison Psychiatrist: Yeah.

Woof: Well, I wouldn't kick Mick Jagger out of my bed, but uh, I'm not a homosexual, no.

Then he finally goes to the military. So, later the group of hippies joint by a girl the main character liked and one of the hippies’ ex-bride and their son goes to the base to meet Claude (so that I won’t have to call him “the main character” anymore), they steal sergeant’s uniform and his car, so “the main hippy” gets his hair cut and goes on the base to get Claude out, but he can’t go, because he’ll get into troubles so… Berger (“the main hippy”) takes private’s uniform on and while Claude kisses his girl and eats, Berger gets shipped to Vietnam and the movie ends with the rest of the group staying in front of his gravestone and then hippies in front of the White House. Wow. That was so unexpected!

[pattern-53-enfield]

Acquisitions today.

[freinhardt56]

VIETNAM UNIVERSE

So I wore my Steven Universe T-shirt to class today, and Prof Nguyen (a refugee of the Vietnam war) told me it was a communist T-shirt. I promptly replied “what?” But then he googled the Vietnamese flag:

In order to save my grade at the expense of my dignity, I replied: “This is from a children’s cartoon”, and then I showed the class this image:

Long story short, I triggered my prof’s PTSD by wearing an SU shirt. Nice choice of symbols Crewniverse.

(Please don’t reblog with a pro-communist comment - Prof Nguyen got chased out by the North)

[theodorebasmanov]

I’ve watched “Miss Saigon”. Yes, I watch very different musicals not only fairy tales and “gay stuff”, so yes, I’ve watched a very dramatic musical about Vietnamese woman during and after the Vietnamese war. And let’s say I liked the music, but the plot is probably not my cup of tea. I guess I should read something about Vietnamese war, because I know almost nothing about it and haven’t even watched any movies, so I can’t tell anything about history and, I don’t know – accuracy. And I still don’t understand how do Americans themselves feel about this war, so enough about reality, let’s get to the musical. As I said above, it’s very VERY dramatic (I mean, it would be pretty strange if it wasn’t). The music is very beautiful. I’ve heard “Sun and Moon” and “I’d Give My Life for You” before so, I was expecting something like this, but was still pleasantly surprised. What I didn’t understand was why did they put “The American Dream” at the end. I mean – it’s one of a little amount of “humorous” numbers and it ruins the dramatism a little and it’s unnecessary. So, I enjoyed the music and singing but the plot was too real and too… actual. I don’t like recent history (everything after the very beginning of the twentieth century is recent history).

[catboybrigade]

https://www.popsci.com/operation-popeye-government-weather-vietnam-war/

With Operation Popeye, the U.S. government made weather an instrument of war

Operation Popeye was a secret Vietnam War-era effort to conduct covert cloud seeding over Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos, extend the monsoon se

UM?? WHEN WAS SOMEONE ONE GONNA TELL ME ABOUT THIS??

[auskultu]

WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4, 1967

An article in the official North Vietnamese Communist party newspaper yesterday rejected the Johnson Administration’s latest offers of peace talks and vowed to continue the war unabated. American policymakers “must put an unconditional end to all war acts” in North Vietnam, the article said, adding: "They have no right to ask for any conditions from the Democratic Republic of Vietnam.” 

Governor Rockefeller has been quietly letting it be known that he is shifting from wholehearted support of President Johnson’s policy in Vietnam to deep concern about the continued escalation of the war and the lack of evident progress toward peace talks.

The Senate minority leader, Everett McKinley Dirksen, called upon dissenting Republicans to moderate their “demeaning” criticism of the President’s Vietnam policy. His remarks set off a free-wheeling, sometimes bristling debate with Senator J. W. Fulbright, the Democratic chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, who is the Administration’s severest critic. 

Foreign Minister Abba Eban said in a speech at the United Nations General Assembly: “Israel will not return to the political and juridical anarchy or to the strategic vulnerability from which she has emerged.” In the strongest statement yet of Israel’s claim to a broad revision of Middle East relations on the basis of her victory in the six-day war in June, Mr. Eban called for a peace settlement based on a recognition that all past agreements had been shattered and for a renunciation of all future belligerency by the Arabs. 

In the Senate, a coalition of liberal Democrats and Republicans was trying to put together a majority to salvage a compromise emergency ghetto job program. The program would spend $925-million in one year, part of it for training hard-core unemployed. The Senate defeated a Republican attempt to abolish the Job Corps training program. 

[winggoyle]

so. for a fieldtrip we went to the national veteran’s museum, where one of a retired commanding officer retold us his tales of days during the vietnamese war. afterwards i went up to him and asked him if the symptoms of ptsd ever get any better. he told me what one of the younger cadets had told someone who asked what it was like to retell the tales. she said, “when you go through something like that it feels like barbed wire is wrapped around your heart. each time you retell a story, the wire loosens up just a tiniest bit.”