kick and twitch the difference
I’m telling you straight, buckle up for this lengthy comment. Many Kick streamers defend the platform simply because they’re receiving handouts. They’ll lie outright to protect their perks. I’m here to tell it like it is. I’m the only genuine streamer on Kick who multi-streams and keeps it real. I’ve stayed authentic since the early days in 2022, and I’m the only one who hasn’t sold out to the platform. I’ll praise them when I see something positive, but if I don’t, I hold them accountable-unlike the meat riders on Kick. Because Kick pays you and gives you attention, you’re suddenly singing their praises. But as OGs of Kick, we have a different story. It’s astonishing how much Kick exploits people, manipulates them, and sucks up to anyone willing to follow their narrative. Those of us who’ve been on Kick longer have been treated differently, and we have our own stories to tell.
Kick is shady. They lie. You’re selling your soul, whether you realize it or not. If you knew what they do behind the scenes and how much they suppress streamers, you’d think twice. You even admitted they gave your partner front-page exposure—that’s proof they’re trying to buy your loyalty. You think they’re better just because they shower you with perks. Kick’s front page is botted—it always has been. Between August 1 and 4, I had a ton of active chatterboxes, but Kick nerfed mine for no reason. I’m the only streamer on Kick who doesn’t bot and has spoken out against viewbotting. Now, staff are targeting me because they don’t want more people telling the truth. Even your own streams on Kick are heavily botted—the chat is just spammed emotes, and it moves much slower than your Twitch chat.
I think Twitch is better, and here’s why. I took a break from Twitch in 2022 to grind on Kick. Twitch never touched my achievements. I could take years off from Twitch, and my stats would still be there. But Kick? They mess with your stats and lie about it. When I asked a prominent Kick streamer, they showed me screenshots proving their stats weren’t touched or reset after 30 days. But when I reached out to support, the staff gave me a generic copy-paste response, claiming it resets after 30 days. Yet, I was in a new month with 68 chatterboxes, and on August 4, they nerfed it to 22. That’s definitely Kick staff’s doing since they control the coding-I can’t influence that. To this day, they haven’t fixed it. I’ve asked every streamer I know on Kick if their stats were ever reset, and they all said no-everything intact. So why only mine? Because they hand-pick people they don’t like, especially those outspoken about their viewbotting problem.
Kick viewbots their front page, and I’ve noticed that when Eddie himself raids, those bots don’t transfer. A front-page streamer I know raided, and none of their front-page viewbots came through because the bots are bought specifically for that channel. A legitimate platform wouldn’t suppress people who speak up about it. On Twitch, I’ve called out streamers for viewbotting, and Twitch never blacklisted or suppressed me-they actually appreciated my reports. On Kick, however, a streamer even showed her viewbotting software live on stream, which trended for both Twitch and Kick. Twitch banned her, but Kick rewarded her with a Stake deal, and to this day, she’s never been banned.
This shows Kick’s lack of integrity. This streamer’s video (copy-paste this link) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv2RfRCIZQM and her Kick channel still stands: https://kick.com/queengloria.
To this day, she’s still not banned and continues viewbotting on Kick. When Twitch saw that video, there was no question-instant ban for tampering with viewership. But Kick? They reward people like her with partner and verified status.
This has been ongoing since 2022, and now, in 2025, they keep hiding behind the “beta” excuse. Viewbotting violates their own Terms of Service, and that should be non-negotiable. Kick’s TOS changes constantly because they copied it from Twitch, typos and all. I even saw them fix those errors later. They don’t enforce their own rules-it’s all for show. Words mean nothing; actions do. Most Kick moderators are biased. Nothing you report gets addressed-you just get the same copy-paste response every time. Eddie himself is biased. Anyone who challenges him faces defensiveness and suppression. I’ve seen plenty of OG streamers silenced by him personally for calling out Kick’s shady practices. Then Kick goes into damage control, making excuses while inviting only those who align with their narrative. I’ve never seen them bring in anyone unbiased, critical, or independent-only those who play along and keep up the act.
You’ve done zero research on Kick. If you dig deep on X, you’ll find plenty of leaks. Better yet, talk to the Kick OGs who witnessed everything and tried to help the platform. I have screenshots of Kick staff messaging OnlyFans streamers in their chats, telling them to mention the staffer’s name in their partner application emails to get approved faster. That’s favoritism and creates an unfair disadvantage. There are plenty of receipts showing how Kick staff operate, and they do damage control by inviting Twitch streamers to distract from these issues. I remember they had a vouching system for verified channels on Discord, but they purged it to control the narrative and deny it ever existed. I have screenshots of a first-class streamer admitting she used that system to get her friends verified and partnered. Nobody gains anything organically on Kick-it’s either viewbotting, vouching, staff favoritism, or friends already partnered vouching for others. The internet is forever, but people are gullible and don’t do their own research. They suck up to get money, sell their souls, and don’t ask tough questions or hold Kick accountable.
Kick brags about viewbotting, calling it “cope.” They’re unprofessional about it because they know it’s happening. They always bring up Twitch, but we’re not talking about Twitch right now-we’re talking about Kick. They started botting their own platform to boost its visibility, and they’re still doing it, especially on the front page. They even reward people who do it. I know many streamers personally who viewbot to get into KCIP, and I’ve called them out. You have to be someone prominent to get botted, but when you’re a small streamer, their excuse that “someone’s botting you” is absurd. Sites like botted.wtf use Kick’s own public API data to show how many streamers are botting-many of whom are partners. That’s how Kick found some of them in the first place. They know it’s happening; they just don’t care. The creator of botted.wtf even emailed them, offering to fly to their HQ to help fight the problem. Kick declined because they’re complicit. I’ve suggested adding a public viewer list since day one, and I still have all those emails with Kick staff, but they get defensive-because they’re hiding something. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t mind adding a viewer list. People like me, who aren’t gullible, don’t need a viewer list to spot viewbotting. But for those too entrenched to see it, a viewer list would make it obvious. Notice how partnered viewbotting streamers always have an issue with it—they know it would expose them. They also dislike Whiz because he’s exposed them on his list, which uses Kick’s own API data-you can’t fake that. People aren’t blind; they see the chatters are just spamming emotes. Some botters have even admitted to Whiz in private Discord DMs that they’ve botted their Kick chat-he showed me those messages.
Streamers always use the same excuse: “They’re just lurking.” Some have been using that line since 2022, others since 2023. It’s a tired defense—“lurkers,” even when the math doesn’t add up. Ten people typing with 1,000 viewers? Come on. That’s like saying your dog ate your homework. When you reach out to support, you get dismissive copy-paste responses like, “We’ve forwarded this to staff.” I have over a thousand of those emails, and I’m happy to leak them to show how poor Kick’s support is. Most of their staff don’t speak proper English, so they rely on canned replies. These are people hired from failed platforms like DLive and Trovo, who already did a poor job there, which is why those platforms died under their management. Early on, Kick hired streamers as staff with zero experience. The problem lies with Kick’s management. They’re friends with streamers, so they don’t punish them for viewbotting or cheating their way into KCIP or verified status because they don’t do their research. Even platforms like https://streamscharts.com/ count the bots.
Kick’s biggest issue is moderation. They don’t hold anyone accountable, even with proof. The coder who created botted.wtf tried to help Kick because he knows the data better than their staff, who were recruited from failed platforms and barely speak English. Check WhizKick on X for context-he’s posted about it. One Kick staff member even insulted him because he didn’t like WhizKick exposing the truth. Kick staff are clueless-they don’t even realize viewbot numbers are counted on sites like StreamCharts. The platform is run by amateurs. They intentionally suppress and nerf my account but not others, which speaks volumes about their character, especially since I’m the only one not botting. I’ve even been harassed for calling out viewbotters I know are botting. They hand out front-page spots like candy, and those pages are always heavily botted. You can tell by the chat: nothing but repetitive emote spam from the same accounts. Every Kick streamer you click on has botted chats with spammed emotes. Many are live at the same time, using chatbot software to spam emotes for them while they’re mid-game. I’ve personally witnessed one streamer do this to another.
Even big streamers like Nickmercs had the same issue on Kick. But now that he’s back on Twitch, you can see real conversations in his chat. It’s laughable how gullible some Twitch streamers are. The moment they get a front-page spot or an invite to talk with the CEO and Santamaria, they’re instantly manipulated—because they’re new and unaware of Kick’s history or ongoing issues. I was all in at the start, but I’ve seen too much, and I’m still seeing it now. They don’t want me to grow or get verified because I’ve been outspoken against viewbotting. Meanwhile, streamers who get vouched for, simp for staff, or kiss up get fast-tracked. They don’t like me because I see through them. They claim people “don’t respect the platform,” but it’s because of their shady practices. This is why major sponsors and big companies avoid them. Instead, they use smaller streamers as bait to lure in big names. They’ve never been for us-all they care about is buying loyalty and showering people with perks.
All the OGs got screwed over by Kick. Now, the so-called “first class” and “second class” streamers are starting to complain about the same treatment. I’ve been trying to tell them: Kick has never been on your side. They just use people to get to the ones they really want. When they landed Adin Ross, Asmongold, and xQc, they made it clear how little they care about small streamers. The truth is, Kick would be nothing without us. It’s ironic to see streamers who never got front-page or verified status organically now complaining that Kick purged the Discord because they lost easy access to staff. This proves my point about how these streamers get things handed to them.
I’d rather keep Twitch as my main platform, like always, and multi-stream from there—at least Twitch is transparent about splitting. They don’t viewbot their own platform like Kick does. If someone gets caught viewbotting on Twitch, they face consequences. Yes, some of Twitch’s rules are flawed, but I’d still take that over Kick’s shady operations. Every time you bring up viewbotting on Kick, they deflect and mention Twitch. We’re not talking about Twitch—we’re talking about Kick. Why backpedal? Yes, Twitch has botters too, but they ban them when reported and caught. Take QueenGloria’s case: a 4K clip showed her botting live on stream. On Twitch, that’s an instant ban, no debate. On Kick? Nothing. No problem at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kick suggested that botting site to her in emails. They’re capable of it-they bot their own platform to inflate numbers. I know verified Kick accounts belonging to people who have never streamed a day in their lives. Why would those accounts be verified unless Kick is verifying bot accounts to brag about their “huge number of verified users”? I’ve reported those accounts with zero stats, but Kick hasn’t banned them or fixed the issue. Meanwhile, accounts on X are selling “Kick verification” to anyone. There’s a lot of shady stuff going on that people refuse to believe-mostly because they’re too busy enjoying free perks and attention.
Kick loves silencing people. They suppress anyone who speaks up and protect those who align with them. Those getting perks are quick to shut down anyone with a different story because I don’t kiss up to get handouts. They defend their perks, but when things don’t go their way, they cry about purged Discord channels or not getting front-page spots. They’re ungrateful, even after getting everything handed to them. I keep it real. I don’t drag other creators down or die for a platform like they do. They love to blame Kick’s victims-those who get treated poorly for no reason, just for following the rules and not botting like other streamers or the platform itself. When things go wrong, Kick doesn’t care. Just like Twitch didn’t care when Doc, Nickmercs, or other big creators left. No platform needs any creator—they’d be fine without us. But when creators attack others for sharing their stories about how Kick treats them, they’re the first to defend because they’re getting paid and told by staff to go to war for them. There was even a Discord channel where admins held meetings and told people to harass me. An ex-Kick staff member came forward and revealed how staff openly said racist things behind the scenes, but Eddie did damage control. Now, more people are noticing as KCIP members on X complain about not getting their way with Kick anymore. When we OGs from 2022 tried to warn them about how Kick exploits and uses them, they didn’t listen. Now I can say, “I told you so.” They deserve what’s coming for all the harm they’ve done to me. Karma’s real, isn’t it?
The real problem is people selling their integrity for a platform that doesn’t care about them once they get the streamers they want. They’ll attack creators grinding hard just to protect their Kick perks. These streamers are narcissistic-willing to lie for the platform to keep their front-page spots or Stake deals. I miss when creators supported each other and didn’t turn on one another for platforms that drop them as soon as they get who they want or when things go south. Kick has never been for small streamers. They always planned to use us to get to bigger fish. They bring in Twitch streamers who don’t care about the platform-just looking to get paid. When things slow down and their chats are botted, they bounce back because sponsorships aren’t coming in. No big company wants to touch Kick because of the degeneracy, lack of accountability, and rampant botting. Kick streamers clout-chase hard, cozying up to people like Kai Cenat to boost their image or seem legit. Small companies or energy drink brands don’t mean much. Major players like Samsung, Elgato, and others look to Twitch, YouTube, and some to X. Orgs simp hard because some female streamers blatantly viewbot-you can tell by the emote spam and dead, slow chats, way too slow for their claimed viewer counts. These orgs and smaller energy drink companies don’t do their research either. I’ve seen so much clout-chasing from Kick streamers because they’re not getting real opportunities-because Kick never addresses allegations and refuses to change. They’re a brand risk. If I were Samsung, Elgato, or Monster Energy, I wouldn’t touch them either. That’s just business.
After three years, Kick still hasn’t improved or built a reputation that companies can trust for deals. Early on, streamers complained about Kick cons and begged for events instead of building a solid reputation to earn drops organically. Getting drops on Kick isn’t easy—companies don’t hand out games for free. Many streamers don’t understand how business works. For Twitch, it took years to get drops because they have policies and don’t tolerate degeneracy or constant viewbotting. Companies watch closely, and Kick rewards bots instead of stopping them. Kick streamers clout-chase because they’re struggling to get things organically, and Kick’s reputation is poor. That’s on them-they refuse to improve or elevate the platform.
I’ve been suggesting features while others begged for handouts. I still have all the emails between me and Kick. I suggested channel points, name tags in titles, and a better dashboard. Early on, an admin visited my chat, and I showed them in detail how we should be able to move tabs. Even Santamaria screenshot my suggestion to edit channel points. Every time Santamaria goes live, I see Kick partners sucking up to him. I haven’t seen them make suggestions-all I see is a “me, me, me” attitude. I have emails proving how much I’ve contributed to feature feedback. While others in those purged Discords asked for favors and features, I’ve never been featured or asked for handouts. Everyone’s selling their souls on Kick. I’d rather have zero or one viewer than bots watching me like them. You can tell by their faces-entire Kick streamers rely on gifted subs from Eddie because of how much they suck up to him. They live off gifted subs since there are no ads, and not everyone is keen to subscribe. Their regulars gift chats, and many KCIP members post on X that not everyone makes much money either. You have to be glued to your chair with no life to make significant money, and that’s unhealthy.
No streamer has ever blown up from Kick. Bringing in established Twitch streamers isn’t impressive. Pokimane called out Kick for importing Twitch stars instead of building their own community, and I agree with her. Sure, some big Twitch names bring followers wherever they go, but no Kick streamer has gone from small to big on the platform—no one has reached Kai Cenat or Adin Ross’s level. That hasn’t happened, and it’s 100% Kick’s fault. They’re so focused on pulling Twitch streamers that they don’t grow their own creators. With all the bots lurking, it’s nearly impossible to break out organically on Kick. Most Kick streamers get deals through other social media because Kick isn’t listed on partnership or sponsorship applications. When I applied for Epic or Ubisoft, Kick wasn’t an option. I got my partnerships through Twitch. I’ve spoken to Epic and Ubisoft- they focus on Twitch, YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram. Kick’s not on their radar. Kick streamers lie about getting deals through Kick- I know they use other platforms to land those. Legit company applications ask for your Twitch, Instagram, or TikTok handle never Kick. That’s just facts.
It’s all Kick’s fault. They refuse to change despite knowing about the massive botting problem and rewarding it. When Myron discussed it publicly on his podcast and solo stream, exposing Kick’s fake views, it didn’t help their case. People watch these big creators and see why companies won’t touch Kick. They won’t revoke KCIP or verified status from those who gained it through botting or vouching, so companies don’t trust them. That’s how business works. Companies don’t want to be scammed or give free products to creators who cheat to get ahead. Only small, lesser-known energy drink companies will deal with them because they’re desperate. Big companies like Twitch, YouTube, and TikTok enforce bans for breaking Terms of Service. Viewbotting is illegal, and the FTC is on Twitch’s case-that’s why they added “tampering with viewership” as a report category. Kick does nothing about it because it’s covered by Stake. As a non-American company, Kick may avoid dealing with the shady stuff. Plus, Kick’s tied to Stake, a gambling-heavy site heavily pushed on the platform. Every Kick deal comes with gambling attached. Nickmercs, for example, wasn’t a gambling streamer on Twitch but had to start because it’s in his Kick contract. The same applies to any Twitch streamer who returned—they had to gamble because it’s heavily enforced. Anyone with a Kick or Stake deal, even if they’re not into gambling, gets pulled in. I’ve seen kids gambling live on Kick, and they did nothing about it. Yet they wonder why people criticize them.
Twitch degenerates flocked to Kick because they couldn’t get away with viewbotting there. Twitch denied their partnership applications. I know a first-class Kick partner who complained because she was botting on Twitch too, and they rejected her. Those not caught haven’t been reported yet. But Twitch now posts on X that they’ll combat viewbotters. Twitch will act if you press them, but Kick refuses they backpedal and bring up Twitch when we’re discussing Kick’s failure to enforce against viewbotters. Some lost their Twitch partnership right after getting partnered on Kick. If you haven’t lost yours, you’re lucky-Twitch just hasn’t noticed your Kick deal yet. But once someone reports you with proof of your Kick partnership, you’ll lose it. Twitch allows multi-streaming, but you can’t openly promote Kick while under contract with both. Good luck when they come for you or pray they don’t notice. Many “first-class” Kick members lost their Twitch badges upon getting Kick partnered. Some no longer have their checkmarks, and others are just waiting to get caught.
Kick should be a backup, a multi-stream platform. Twitch and YouTube should be the main stage for legit deals and sponsorships or to be taken seriously. I’m ready for the Kick defenders and simps to flood my comments. If this even gets approved knowing how many get perks from Kick but suppress real talk while they preach freedom of speech on their streams but silence the truth. As long as they’re riding Kick’s coattails, they know they’ll get their perks and front-page spots. This is what happens when streamers sell their integrity for a front-page spot and a few bucks per hour streamed. I’m pretty sure this comment won’t even go through, especially since you’re getting paid by Kick.
You need do deep research X has all the leaks of how kick staff been giving hands out also if watch Santamaria u can quickly notice all kcip meat riding. lots of emote spam chatbots.
