#waldermath lilith

[brielledoesastrology]

H13 and h12 is the best lilith to use in your astrology natal chart

[blacksunscorpio]

Hi! I was wondering what do you think of (true) Lilith in Scorpio/Scorpio in the 11th.... Are they intense?

1. Black Moon Lilith [H13]

 and most commonly use/known.  She encompasses true Osculating Lilith [h13]  & Mean Lilith. She is not a solid object, but rather a point of alignment. The point that is farthest from the earth [ the moon’s apogee].

KEY WORDS. Priestess V prostitute, magic v sorcery, forbidden fruit, angels v demons, animal magnetism, tantric sex, seduction, the supernatural, intuition, psychic ability, psychic healing, hypnotism, charisma, altered states, glamour, shamanism, psychedelic drugs, addiction, obsession.

Think of her as NEPTUNE. This part of the Lilith myth corresponds to the forbidden fruit episode, She is the serpent offering the fruit. Serpents represent occult knowledge, while the apple represents sex. Neptune is very much like a psychic sponge. A similar effect to using drugs to break down the barriers to the unconscious parts of us. Like illusory and deceptive Neptune when drugged, this zone can let in the dark messages from beyond the veil and our subconscious. Our addictions and obsessions

2. Asteroid Lilith [1181]

KEY WORDS. Rebellion, Earthy, feminist, prostitution, exile, freedom fighter, confrontational, equality, impulsive, innovative, unconventional, asexual, instinctual, sensual.

She is the only physical manifestation of Lilith found in the asteroid belt between Jupiter and Mars.

Like her being based in the physical realm as opposed to a hypothetical point in our charts, Asteroid Lilith is hands-on with her energy. You can see this reflected in her “hand-like” glyph. She is Earthy and practical, she reflects the part of the creation myth in Hebrew lore where she protests to God about having the “lie beneath and submit” to Adam. She needed to have equal status.. Asteroid Lilith is like URANUS. Unpredictable. Unconventional. As Uranus being castrated makes him asexual, he is paired and associated with alternative lifestyles. Lilith here is the same. The eternal free spirit. Peter-pan-esque. She represents the lack of “traditional” sexuality and a “traditional” lifestyle. She is stark in her opinions but overall, free.

3. Dark Moon Lilith [H58]

KEY WORDS. Vengeance, Sadomasochism, Demons, The Shadow, Abuse, Rage, Anti-mother, Fairytales, dark sexuality, Seduction, Nightmares, Choas, Nymphomania, Addictions, Psychotic states, Toxins, Depth psychology, Stalkers, emotional pain, Catharsis, Madness.

The Dark Moon is the hurt, ruthless side of Lilith. The part of us that reacts abuse and cruelty, where and how we experience it, or where we can dish it out. Very akin to Algol the notorious Fixed star. She is also called Waldemath Lilith. She is the part of the Lilith myth where while in exile she practiced infanticide and turned OG nymphomaniac out of revenge to god. “Dark Moon relates to highly individualized soul desires that are denied personal satisfaction for higher expression on social/spiritual levels. Dark Moon Lilith is like PLUTO on steroids. The shadow, the secrets, the hidden demons-- all very much part of Pluto’s underworld. The dark lies and myths people attribute to him I.e having “raped and abducted” Persephone, even though we all know Persephone eloped with him willingly. Here she has a duality which we have to face when she is activated. dither face our Demons, make peace, and bury them or allow them to fester until they become engorged and enraged. The latter runs the risk of them breaking out and psychically overtaking and violating us, just as Lilith did in antiquity.

These three faces of Lilith can be associated with the three heads of the Triple Goddess. When combined or aspecting points in your chart, there you will see her energy manifest. She is all about intensity. Her vibe itself is 8th house/Scorpionic in nature. On your ascendant, it will play out like this. In the houses, which are the stages your planets [sun, moon, Venus] play out their role [Sign= Taurus, Scorpio [where she feels at home], Pisces, Sag] you can see her play out like this.

Regardless of her dark and complicated nature, her energy can be channeled beneficially if used without ego to release negativity through creativity, healthy sexual activity, or therapeutically.  

[plutoswrath]

The merlin ask here! There's not much on the asteroids so its completely fine! I just found you so soft but you're 💛💚💜virgo rising! I am too (not 100% sure)

No wonder you seemed so lovely! Our synastry is probs crazy XD Thank you for sharing about yourself! I love cancer mercuries!they're so sweet 🥺🥺

The people around me struggle so much with their scorpio moons, it's sad to say but it's a lifelong struggle...and I am no help with my scorpio mars🤧

Btw what does waldermath lilith say about you if it's in scorpio? And making a conjunction with mars and sqaure with mercury and neptune ,sextile moon and opposite Jupiter? So many questions 😅😅 sorry haha!

To your ask regarding Lilith: Dark Moon (Waldermath) Lilith basically deals with us purging, it tells us where we need to retreat, confront our inner demons and break the cycle of pain to come out stronger and wiser. It’s the place of exile we search for ourselves in order to really heal. This can be about deeply rooted traumatas, also with the mother figure or where we weren’t mothered enough/ in a wrong way. DML in Scorpio can highlight or need to retreat and to reinvent the self, especially strong in detecting our inner demons, digging really deep and facing nasty truth because nothing else but the truth will satisfy them. They know it’s painful, so they could hesitate here, but ultimately they know or could feel when it’s time to purge the soul. In regard to your aspects this brings emotional peace and comfort, as well as can come naturally to you, since it conjuncts your mars, you could naturally gravitade towards powerful feelings and experiences, healing is empowerment  and vice versa (especially when it contact with Neptune). Changing your mindest and accepting bitter truths is hard, but you could inspire others with it and form a believe system around it that helps you deal with unhealthy emotional patterns and difficult experiences better and digest them easier over time. 

asdfghj thank you, you’re too sweet! xx  but don’t let yourself get tricked by my virgo rising, I’m still a scorpio moon, so remember i’m crusty from within <’33 btw, because you’re mentioned you’re not really sure if you’re a virgo rising as well, does it mean you don’t have access to your birth time?  ahh no need to thank me, really! I’m happy you enjoyed me rambling for a bit, thanks for asking 💞  but I do love cancer mercuries as well, I think that’s truly a placement that really softens a person up and makes them very warm hearted, no matter the rest of the chart 🌼 If you don’t mind you can share your placements with me as well! I agree with your synastry predictions though, I think scorpio placements can work well together but if they clash they clash in the most intense and painful ways. Their own extremety can be too extreme for the other, what an irony haha Agreed, scorpio placements are all wild, the most easygoing placement is probably sun in my opinion (i think they learn to deal with their plutonian nature the fastest, usually). And scorpio moon, as well as mars, are really transformative planets! in moon it just feels the most uncomfortable (unfortunately <’3). But personally I believe that scorpio moon people can really ‘crack the code’ if they just stop rejecting themselves and start accepting their emotional nature for the better and treating it more than a friend, a benefit, something normal especially (!) rather than an obstacle that secludes them from the rest, or makes them feel ‘abnormal’. The moon doesn’t fall there for a reason but wherever Plutonian energy touches everything happens for a reason and is meant to make a person become powerful and grow over their own limitations!   (sorry for the small rant asdfg)