me when i loose my 50 50 on the weapon banner and i now have about 45 pity left but the banner ends in under 2 days... gulp. this game despises me.....
me when i saw that ominous spear that I already have instead of my bbg's beautiful claymore...
So, the new update for genshin is out! yay... now let me tell you my story of the update..
I log on almost seconds after its available, originally I has started saving for raiden's next re-run but then, I saw Xinqiu was on this banner. I did not have any good Hydro units at all, so I wanted to get him, so I tried my luck with the wishes I had. First wish, diona :(, next 7 wishes, nothing, and I'm skipping throughs these fast. It gets worse when on my next pull, another diona >:(. So I pull again...and I see a little bit of gold and a very large blackness..and thats when I go. "oh shit." I personally did not want neuvi, may I remind you I was at 21 pity, non guaranteed, because I had just become a lyney Main, he was almost done being built. THEN THIS MOFO OF A CHEIF JUSTICE COMES IN. I don't know what to do, I jus stare at my screen for a while, thinking "goddamnit man. why. why now?" so once I accept my fate I just decided to use all my wishes..I got the rust :|. I have really no idea what to at this point and jus start exploring, I eventually get another wish and pull on Hu tao and NO I DIDN'T GET HER (thank god) I...got xinqiu:) and now I can say I got Neuvi in his first minute of release 😭👍
also after all this I called my friends, one wanted neuvi and he showed me his pulls, he was at two pity, and on his first ten I said "this one" he got neuvi at 4 pity ;). Then he got a early weapon, sadly it was staff of homa, still good though! Then I have another friend who was a Hu Tao main and wanted her weapon, so I watched her pull, and lo and behold, she was doing singles and I said "skip the next one its gonna be it" she got staff of homa, her first 5* weapon too!
so after all this I still don't know what to do with Neuvi but..I guess i'm just gonna have to try and figure it out! Good luck this patch, whether it be Neuvi, Hu tao, Wriothesley, or Venti, good luck! and remember to enjoy the game, even a qiqi :)
How To Save Primos Like The Frat Star You Are: Pulling On Weapon Banner Without Spending Like A Total Geed
(Crossposted to Twitter)
For F2Ps / low-spenders, we have previously advised against pulling on the Weapon Banner due to high investment cost and the fact that newly-obtained characters provide more overall value than any single weapon ever could. (Yes, this includes Staff of Homa.)
However, "just don't do it" is not advice.
This guide was written to help Travelers make informed choices, and to share the smartest possible way of pulling on the Weapon Banner, even though we still do not advise it.
Note: This is not a Weapon Banner tutorial. For a comprehensive overview of Weapon Banner mechanics, read here.
At 0 pity count, and in worst case scenario, it takes three rounds of pulls, or ~210 pulls / ~33,600 primos, to guarantee one copy of a specific limited rate-up 5✰ weapon. Hard pity is at 80, soft pity is at 65, and we use a conservative estimate of 70 pulls per round. (70 pulls x 3 rounds = 210)
We have condensed pulling on Weapon Banner down to two rules:
1. Only pull on the Weapon Banner if you can use either of the rate-up promotional weapons.
2. After acquiring 1 Fate Point, stop pulling on the Weapon Banner unless you can afford to reach pity two additional times (~140 pulls). No exceptions.
Now, let's talk about why.
As the Character Banner starts as a 50/50 between a limited character and a character from the standard pool, the Weapon Banner starts as a 75/25.
There is a 25% chance your 5✰ will be an off-banner standard 5✰ weapon, and a 75% chance your 5✰ will be a rate-up promotional 5✰ weapon (meaning there is a 37.5% chance for either weapon on the banner).
Rule 1 exists because the gamble is more worth the primo investment if even the non-desired promotional weapon could be of some use to your account. There's already a 25% chance you may receive an undesired weapon--why increase that to 62.5% by adding a 37.5% chance for a weapon that's completely useless to you?
Rule 2 exists for a couple of reasons, the most important of which is that Fate Points do not roll over. Pulling past 1 Fate Point risks losing round two, and maximizing 2/2 Fate Points without being able to afford your then-guaranteed third round is a complete and utter misuse of primos. (We have found this scenario common in making Travelers feel coerced to spend money to finish their Path, lest their current level of investment go to waste.)
But if Fate Points don't roll over, you might ask, why do we advise to pull until you get one?
First--there's a 75% chance you'll pull one of the promotional weapons. The odds are pretty good, especially if you follow Rule 1.
Secondly, what many Travelers do not realize:
If you lose the 75/25 to an off-banner standard 5✰ weapon, your next 5✰ weapon is guaranteed to be one of the two rate-up promotional weapons.
Fate Points do not roll over, but this 50/50 does.
So, pulling a standard 5✰ and immediately stopping turns a future Weapon Banner first round from a 75/25 shared with standard pool to a 50/50 between both promotional rate-ups--which is great for you, because you don't pull unless you could use both weapons anyway, remember?
On the whole, we still do not recommend pulling on Weapon Banner--but should you choose to, we hope this helps you plan/pull more efficiently.
UPDATE: Rule 2 can be broken if--and only if--1) you lose the 75/25 in the first round to a standard weapon, 2) both rate-up promotional weapons are equally desired, and 3) you have the self-control to not be disappointed or spend beyond your means if you max our your Fate Points and are unable to complete the final guaranteed round before the banner is over.