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the nohr siblings are incesty because of a lot of shared trauma and angst that has resulted in them bonding codependently with each other because this is the only love they’ve ever known, the only people they’ve ever felt safe with.
the hoshido siblings are incesty because their siblings are hot
the way Xander and Leo's signature weapons are named for mythological couple Siegfried and Brynhildr JUST like Ephraim and Eirika's are named for mythological (incestuous) couple Siegmund and Sieglinde. and like, you just know Leo has studied his mythology (especially since it's so chock full of sibcest...). you KNOW he knows those are the names of a couple. and you know he has very complex feelings about it considering his feelings re: his big brother
Fun fact, Siegfried/Sigurd is Siegmund and Sieglinde’s son. I believe Siegfried and brunhild weren’t exactly a couple, but Siegfried disguised himself as another man to woo Brunhild on that man’s behalf. I believe in most versions he does consummate the marriage pretending to be that man (pretty much always non-consensually). She always has a role in killing him, though—usually out of honour.
Oh! Interesting: in trying to fact check that, apparently she IS his lover in the Wagner opera. I missed that when I read through a summary of it before and only remembered her attempting to save his parents and failing.
Hmmmm I think Leo would struggle to draw parallels to it at first because his weapon has the name of a woman, and he wouldn’t really be willing to cast himself in a woman’s role. Depending on which version of the myth he’s read though, I could see him having quite a bit of angst about the fact that Brunhild usually kills Siegfried—since that is probably something his mother wanted for him. And, maybe late at night while he’s pondering this, and Xander and he are playing the roles of their weapon’s mythical namesakes in his head, his mind sometimes wanders to the reason she kills him, and he blushes bright red. It doesn’t matter that the scenario wouldn’t make sense in context, and that Siegfried is in disguise there, it’s already playing out in his mind and he can’t shove the thoughts of being with his brother away.
I wish there were more fun parallels to draw here 😔 believe me, I’ve tried. Sieglinde and Siegmund are easier to parallel to Ephrika. But the various versions of Sigurd’s myth don’t really seem to have much to do with Xander and Leo.
I do actually wonder what Intsys was thinking when they picked these weapon names 🤔 how much did they intend for the myth to reflect in game? Or did they just want to pick funky names? Because sometimes in FE games the answer seems to be “just funky names” but Deirdre for example is ABSOLUTELY based on her namesake in Irish myth. So….. did they want to imply ephrika? Were they actually trying to imply something for Xander and Leo too, and I’ve just missed the parallel??
another camilleo + corriander thought (feat xanleo this time)
i love the idea of leo and xander just…. existing. with so much shame (leo) and guilt (xander) and repression and frustration, vaguely aware of each other’s struggles.
until at some point something snaps in the tension and suddenly they’re in a hidden corridor of the castle, making out and grinding on each other. and when they’re done, they don’t say a word to each other about it. but it happens, again. and again.
both of them are too ashamed to admit their feelings to anyone, even to each other out loud, but the tacit understanding of their shared situations means that they can trust each other. and this is the only way of working through their frustration
now this could either be a pre-camilleo, pre-corriander situation. OR alternatively, gradually these frantic, shameful trysts slow down a little. become a bit more delicate, a bit more passionate. until they’re able to open up, and verbalise their anxieties—and perhaps most importantly, affirm how important they are to each other. and while they know they’ll never be able to make this love of theirs known, they’re both happy. and not so scared anymore. for the first time in a long time.
thinkin about post br. le.o courting someone officially - but is also still deeply in love with cam.illa. hell, cami comforting him when he confides he has the same confusing feelings for xa.nder... that all he wanted was to be loved by both of them. wanted their attention all to his own... she holds le.o close, comforting touches where siblings don't usually touch. cam.illa's his close advisor... until le.o's partner he courts learns that they're in love too.....
and then they learn about how le.o's got a mommy fetish that cam.illa happily indulges in.
Leo and Xander for the meme!
them!!! i initially loved them a lot more but my love for them has been eclipsed by other combos of the nohrsibs. they’re still VERY good, though.
i think the thing is for me that leo has a LOT of shame about his sibcon tendencies, and also a lot of shame about his lack of masculinity/his attraction to men. and that’s combined would make it very hard for anything to happen between him and xander. but on the flip side… it could also provide a lot more flavour.
also, when i had my old sims save with the nohr sibs before i actually played fates, xander and leo were the two who snapped and fucked first 😩
writing adventures again
todays result: @cleo4u2 promised to show me her ‘gives no fucks’ cross stitch tomorrow.
I am very excited.
Xander/Leo A
Xander: Leo! May I have a moment of your time? I want you to know I’m grateful you finally told me how you feel. I have something to tell you as well.
Leo: ...
Xander: When we were both young, only beginning to find our feet on the battlefield... I was relieved the day you chose to walk the path of magic instead of the blade.
Leo: I don’t understand. Why would you be relieved?
Xander: Before then, I always felt you at my heels, pushing me. Pressuring me.
Leo: Pressuring you? Me?
Xander: You’re so precocious, Leo. It was only a matter of time before you caught up to me. You say you were envious of me, but the truth is, I felt the same way about you.
Leo: ...That’s nice of you to say, Xander, but I don’t need your empty flattery.
Xander: Sullen Leo... You still don’t get it.
Leo: Get what?
Xander: You were so concerned about being inferior to me in any way... But of course you were. You were younger and much less experienced. You said that when we were young, I excelled at everything.
Leo: You did. You were unstoppable.
Xander: That’s only because I had already been training for years! It’s only natural. Yet even with my advantage, you were closing the gap between us so quickly... If you had bested me, the eldest prince... I would have failed as your brother. That’s part of why I tried so hard. As your brother, it’s my job to stay one step ahead.
Leo: I...I don’t know what to believe.
Xander: I have only spoken the truth, Leo. In your heart, you must know that. I value you more than you know. So there’s no reason to be shy around me, is there? I implore you to speak your mind boldly in our war meetings, for the benefit of us all.
Leo: ...
As you wish, Xander. From now on, no more holding back my opinions. In fact, you better watch yourself, or I may be nipping at your heels again soon.
Xander: Ha! I dearly hope so. I’m proud of you, Leo.
Leo: Thanks, Xander. But enough brotherly bonding... Let’s talk strategy!