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Liu Qingge: I've only said "I love you" to three people: my mom, my sister, and my dying shixiong*. And one of those I regret.

Yang Yixuan: Which one?

Liu Qingge: My shixiong. He survived, so now I look like an idiot.

*older martial brother

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Cnovel!anon: For 備份, there's an example with 季玨 in Airplane extra #4. He's LQG's shidi, and he calls SQH 尚師兄. So the people who are the Qing generation's martial siblings still keep their 備份 when the Qing generation became peak lords. I think someone like 季玨 would still be shishu or shibo to any lower gen disciple (on BZ peak ref by relation to LQG), and would be shizun to any personal disciple (or he might just be a teacher on the peak, and be called xiansheng like LQR is called).

cont'd: The candidate selection chapter (74) only showed how LBH was selected by SQQ, but I headcanon that a peak lord's martial sibling could select personal disciples as well, though with the peak lord's agreement (and for BZ, the disciple has to seek out the peak first). So for the peak disciples, if they are inner disciples selected by a shidi or shixiong of LQG as a personal disciple, they would call LQG shibo/shishu. Outer disciples without a specific shizun would call him Peak Lord.

cont'd 3/3: no real basis for this in SVSS, mainly extrapolating from other wuxia and from MDZS.

Cnovel!anon: oh and I think the really young disciples who want to be polite in referring to a lower peak but older disciple can always use 前輩。Even if the allowed term is shidi. I expect since they stop aging once they have cultivated enough, it's less obvious who is older or younger. I expect the higher generation dress differently than the lower generation, so they know if the person is a shidi or shishu. The generation above peak lords that are still around are likely 長老 or 師祖。

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WORKSHOPPING THIS WITH ME it's foolish but this is what i'm getting tripped up on again and again with this fic i'm writing lmfao This is the chart I've got so far. Black is people, Green is relational designation.

(pardon my SHIT handwriting)

This is all within Baizhan. All Baizhan disciples are either immediate/inner disciples or non-immediate/outer disciples of either LQG or one of his martial siblings. YYX is the only one who calls LQG Shizun. All other immediate/inner disciples call LQG either Shishu or Shibo depending on their Shizuns' relationship to LQG. All the non-immediate/outer disciples call LQG Peak Lord.

My question is, what do the non-immediate/outer disciples call LQG's martial siblings? 先生 is gender neutral and makes sense for active teachers, but what about non-teachers? 長老 would work (峰主/長老, but in that case, what about for those one generation above? I didn't draw a question mark on my diagram but I'm sorta questioning now, are outer disciples allowed to call them 師祖? Or would it be something like 太上長老?? It feels like only immediate/inner-disciples (of any cultivator within the Cang Qiong lineage) can refer to seniors with 師/Shi, right? Or am I trippin'

So:

YYX calls LQG Shizun and would call LQG's Shizun Grandmaster—Taishizun or Shizu

He would call any of LQG's martial siblings Shibo or Shishu

The immediate/inner disciples of LQG's martial siblings would call LQG Shibo or Shishu (I know you said this bit is your headcanon but 1000% agreed lmfao)

All immediate/inner disciples of Peaks higher ranked than Baizhan would call all Baizhan cultivators from LQG's generation (including LQG) Shishu

All non-immediate/outer disciples in Cang Qiong call LQG Peak Lord and LQG's martial siblings Elder/Zhanglao in general, Xiansheng if they're teachers (what did MDZS translate Xiansheng to?)

All current-gen Baizhan disciples call YYX shixiong or shidi based on their order of entry, regardless of inner/outer disciple status.

All current-gen non-Baizhan disciples from Peaks higher ranked than Baizhan can call YYX shidi, even if they're younger or came in later. However, it's probably actually more socially appropriate for those younger or newer to Cang Qiong to call him Senior/Qianbei. This is also regardless of inner/outer disciple status.

I'm just guessing the last two would be regardless of inner/outer status just because...都是後輩那麼講究幹啥呢？But there would still be something of a selection process. No non-immediate/outer disciples become Elders because if they weren't good enough by a certain point to get taken in as an immediate/inner disciple, they should have to leave the mountain. At most they become a 執事 (deacon??), but their purpose on Cang Qiong is no longer cultivation. This means that everyone still on Cang Qiong from the Qing Generation of Peak Lords (everyone who gets referred to as an Elder) is an immediate/inner disciple of a cultivator from the generation above. This would preserve the sanctity of the Elder designation, kind of—for instance, outer disciples who studied at Cang Qiong can't claim to be Cang Qiong Elders. Anybody who claims to be a Cang Qiong Elder is claiming martial relation to somebody's Shizun/Shibo/Shishu, etc.

And you totally resolved a whole designation moment for me LMFAO 前輩 as a term used among same-gen disciples makes a lot of sense!!! Thank you for that. And I totally agree that there would be different dress codes for the generations, or at least emblems, jades, markers, etc. as visual cues, since visible age doesn't actually tell you much past a certain point.

linking vaguely related articles mostly for my own reference:

修真、玄幻、仙俠小説當中的宗門組織架構與職能

仙俠小說裡門派中職位的稱呼

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