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“Are you a man or a woman?”
“I’m the Public Universal Friend.”
“What gender are you?”
“Christian.”
“Yeah, but what’s in your pants?”
“The Inner Light.”
also your queerness and your expressions of it are literally sacred. by the way
Happy Pride Month to all my fellow queers! 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
You are wonderfully loved and created by God. <3
Shout out to June for being both Pride month and the month of the most Sacred Heart of Jesus, got to be the best month pairing out there.
Name me a more iconic duo than Jesus’ flaming Heart and us flaming queers. You can’t. There is none.
i think that since it's nearly impossible to talk about the trinity without committing heresy we should all stop worrying about being right about the nature of something that's fundamentally incomprehensible and just talk about God in ways that resonate with us and let us keep the art and mystery of theology intact rather than trying to pin God down like a bug with something that's not even explicitly in the bible. various early church councils can meet me in the pit. okay that being said, while i don't think it's an absolute truth about God, the trinity will always have my attention as a particularly beautiful heuristic in godtalk because it is relational at its core and i think that can lead to a very lovely and true idea of what God is like. it allows us to picture a God who dances, and gives us multiple avenues or angles by which we can relate to divinity. and like a zen koan it is an exercise in holding something in your mind without trying to grasp it, like water if you try to close your fist around it you will lose it. but if you hold out your hands and let them be filled you can drink. i just think they're neat
I never really thought about before how when God is teaching Jonah about mercy and he gives him that plant and then the plant is withered by the sun and Jonah liked that plant, he’s so angry! And God says are you angry Jonah? And Jonah says angry enough to die!
Never thought about how in that parallel God compares the plant to people, which makes Jonah in God’s role. Angry enough at the destruction of humanity—to die
God sent Jonah to Nineveh the enemy of his people to preach repentance and Jonah’s so mad because he wanted God to be angry at Nineveh, unleash his wrath, get rid of the enemy. And God’s response is to set up this little plant that Jonah likes and then when it’s blasted away go what are you feeling Jonah? And Jonah says angry!! And all the sudden the anger you thought God should be feeling you see it’s there but it’s anger that *anyone* should be destroyed. It’s anger *for* people. It’s anger that moves people *away* from destruction because at its heart it’s love.
june is both Pride Month and the month of The Sacred Heart of Jesus Christ.
some people may see this as a contradiction, a sort of clashing of ideals. i cannot disagree more.
for what is the Sacred Heart if not a devotion to God as Love Incarnate? His love that is boundless, passionate, and flows eternally like the ocean waves.
and what is Pride Month if not a celebration of love? love that persists in the face of great adversity and turmoil. love that has, does, and will forever endure even as the whole world seeks to destroy it.
against all of the hate and wrath that much of humanity has for us, always remember that it is never hopeless. for if God is Love, and He is, then He is on our side. and what can these people do against us if God is on our side?
happy Pride Month, and happy Month of the Sacred Heart. God bless you all <3
christ begs for the cup to pass him and the father does not stop. three persons, one god, what does it mean for the relationship that is god to be one of non-consensuality, of violation? what does that say / show us of him?
can you noncon yourself? can the cup, too runny, turn over its verges onto your own thighs? is there feel or content not even god can tummy? i think yes. i think only in god
collecting joans of arc like they are my little pokemon team
omg tomorrow is Joan’s death day feast I almost forgot
Some of my favorite art pieces of Joan and her voices. Saint Joan of Arc, patron of the transgender and the crazy, pray for us!
Catholic? Protestant? Methodist? Orthodox? Baptist? I don’t care, you are ALL my siblings in Christ and I love you.
Shout out to Acts 2:14-15, the funniest two verses in the Bible. "We're not drunk, it's 9am. Catch us at 9pm tho you know what I'm saying?"
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what if God's name is nonconsensual, comes in whatever form takes you, however you need? just call him though.
like a deadname?
hi! I voted "other" on the "what is God's name" poll. since I'm a bit unsure about this, though, I'm not leaving it in tags, rather, this will be in asks
I think God's name is a breath that cannot be literally transcribed. I think His name is a sigh of relief for something or someone you care about. I think His name is a gasp, either of pleasure or pain or both simultaneously or both sequentially. I think His name is in the hushed weeping at night.
I'd love to think it poetic, that we say this holy name in every breath that makes it past our throat and our mouth. He is life, after all. so it makes sense to me, I'd hope, that we say the name of life in every breath that give us life.
or idk I could be wrong it is so late rn here I'm pretty sure half of what I wrote is grammatically incorrevr
there is a theory that 'yhwh' is the noise of an inhale, then an exhale. yh. wh. there is a referent for this too—ruach. the breath of god on your neck. it is through this ruach he creates, in genesis, through your nostrils
Pentecost already????? 😧
Something I wondered yesterday is: why is The Exorcist, a film about heroic Catholic priests fighting a demon, based on a book by a devout Catholic inspired by historic Catholic exorcisms, and with multiple Catholic priests advising on the film, not considered "Christian media"?
I think the reason is that the Christian media landscape of today - CCM, Pure Flix, Angel Studios, Christian romance novels, The Shack, Veggietales, etc. - is the product of American Evangelicalism developing into a subculture in the 1980s, and that subculture's (A) willingness to spend money on things promoting their views and (B) increasing dissonance between their values and mainstream American culture. Consequently, an industry sprang up to ensure that they wouldn't have to interact with secular media.
That historical development has led to two things:
People have a very specific image of "Christian media", rooted in Evangelical theology and culture, particularly its emphasis on positive feelings as a gauge of spirituality and (to quote "Screwtape Proposes a Toast") "petty traditional abstinences from wine or cards or the theatre". Which a dark, violent, sexually explicit and extremely Catholic horror film does not match.
Because of that history, "Christian media" is a similar category to "exploitation film"; most of it is low-quality and makes money by pandering to a specific audience, and hence any example of it that achieves critical respect and mass appeal is assumed to have transcended the genre.
Tagging @wariteres (Catholic who grew up Evangelical) for her opinion.
You’re right on the money, frankly. For a while (about ~25-30 years, I’d say, 1975/80-2005 or so) there was a pretty firm conviction in Evangelical circles that the world was basically unsalvageable and worldly/secular movies and music and TV were at best harmlessly banal with no spiritual value and at worst actively demonic. This initial tension is what led to things like the Christian rock and metal scene (started by young rock fans who wanted to make rock music and prove to skeptics that it wasn’t all evil and could be a tool for good) and reached its major breakout point with the availability of VCRs and VHS tapes in the 80s. The ability, suddenly, for people to provide alternatives to television and movies they didn’t like, especially for children, was a serious cultural shift. This is something evangelicals had in common with Mormons, actually - the Mormon company Feature Films for Families operated on a similar model, creating low-budget films like Split Infinity or The Seventh Brother that weren’t explicitly religious but that did focus on being Wholesome and Nonthreatening on a low budget for the straight to video market.
Interestingly, the conception of Christian media being cheap or glurgy or generally Bad or focused on messaging over quality has basically been there right from the beginning. This led to the rise of young artists who understood the desire for evangelicals to have their own media but who also wanted to prove that it could be just as good or well done as secular stuff. VeggieTales was actually conceived as a kind of critical response to an earlier straight to video series called McGee and Me, because Phil Vischer was a young Christian creative who hated McGee and Me (and so do I, Phil) and thought that he could do better. The early VT episodes are filled with absurdism and pop culture parody (the French Peas are a Monty Python homage) and were designed to be fun for kids and also at least bearable for their parents, who’d have to watch this stuff endlessly. The strategy paid off, particularly because the series launched at the start of the Christian book store boom (these were/are Evangelical-only stores that sold Christian books, movies, music, homeschool materials, and toys, for the purposes of supplying people who wanted to stay in the Evangelical media bubble) and the employees of those stores would put VeggieTales tapes on in their children’s sections (because they always had a TV always playing, to showcase their VHS collection) since the humor was designed to be actually funny and good for all ages. Adventures in Odyssey was initially a similar project, conceived with the explicit goal of being Christian edutainment that was just as high-quality and imaginative and well-acted and well-written as anything secular (it’s gone downhill since about 2005, but for about 20 years it was reliably pretty good if occasionally unhingedly Evangelical). There was a genuine effort to make authentically Evangelical art that was also of a comparable standard to secularly accepted Good Art - Phil Vischer’s creative inspiration was Walt Disney, and the creators of AiO were insprired by Orson Welles’s Mercury Theater on the Air. The success of AiO led to things like the more adult Focus on the Family Radio Theatre, which did things like original mysteries featuring an ex-cop Anglican Priest named Father Gilbert, adaptations of classic literature like Ben-Hur and The Secret Garden, and a complete adaptation of all seven Chronicles of Narnia featuring David Suchet as Aslan and given the official stamp of approval from Lewis’s stepson Douglas Gresham.
What changed, I think, was the brief crossover boom in the mid-2000s brought about by a number of factors like the decline of pop-punk and rock on the radio leading to the success of originally-Christian acts like Evanescence and Three Days Grace and Breaking Benjamin and the Internet popularity of explicitly Christian bands like Skillet, and the publication of books like The Shack, and The Passion of the Christ and the backlash against The Da Vinci Code, and especially the massive success of Disney’s adaptation of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. That film in particular was the tipping point - it featured an entire soundtrack album of music by Christian artists like TobyMac, Reliant K, and Rebecca St. James, and it was also made with Gresham’s approval. While many families (like my own) considered it to be secularized compared to the book, it was still acceptably accurate, and churches and Christian schools would buy out whole theater showings and host viewings. Suddenly, actual popularity and relevance seemed on the table in ways that hadn’t been possible before, and a number of people jumped ship to get Real Hollywood Jobs. Immediately after that, Obama was elected, causing a firestorm of reactionary panic about godless liberals ruining the country, and simultaneously the culture shifted away from the interest in Christian media that it had shown; without a lot of the original creatives and with the growing conviction that it had lost the culture war (as opposed to the 90s, where the general consensus was that We Won against AIDS and the gays and all that other stuff) Evangelical artistic energy became more reactionary and more didactic. On top of that, VeggieTales’s Big Idea Studios had to declare bankruptcy and were bought out by Viacom after the financial losses suffered from the disappointing box office performance of their Jonah movie. Enter Facing the Giants, etc.
(The Left Behind books were an early sign of this tipping point, but unlike later examples I gave they were pretty controversial and not always well regarded or well liked)
There’s also a pervasive anti-Catholicism that must be acknowledged, and an aversion to horror as a medium for telling religious stories because of a desire to be kid-friendly and a lot of internal bickering over the subject of demons and spiritual warfare - many people consider The Exorcist to be straightforwardly demonic rather than about the power of Christ overcoming the power of Satan, simply because it depicts demons. Most Evangelicals won’t claim successful mainstream Catholic art as Their Art unless it dates from prior to the Reformation. But you’ve really hit the nail on the head here.
So both of these are correct as far as they go but they're describing the cultural-theological side of the thing and not the part I find more interesting, which is that "Christian media" — the specific commercial category, the genre signal — is downstream of a piece of physical retail infrastructure that no longer exists.
The Christian Booksellers Association was founded in 1950. 219 stores. By the 1990s there were thousands.
In 2017 Family Christian Stores, the largest Christian retail chain in the country at 240 locations across 36 states, declared bankruptcy and closed everything, laid off three thousand-plus people. In 2019 LifeWay — the Southern Baptist-affiliated chain, 170 stores, in operation since 1891 — closed every brick-and-mortar location and went online-only. Cokesbury (Methodist-affiliated, 38 stores) had already gone in 2013. The whole physical retail layer is, as of right now, basically Mardel (which is owned by Hobby Lobby) and a long tail of dying independents.
This matters more than it sounds.
Because the thing wariteres is describing — the McGee and Me / VeggieTales / Adventures in Odyssey / Focus on the Family Radio Theatre / christian rock and metal moment — was not just a cultural moment. It was a distribution channel.
The Christian bookstore was the infrastructure that made the category possible. The bookstore is what defined what counted as "Christian media" in the first place: it was Christian media if it could be sold at the Christian bookstore, which meant clearing whatever de facto content standards the store buyers (mostly evangelical, mostly suburban, mostly trying to keep parents from complaining) were applying that quarter — no smoking, no drinking, no sex, no excessive violence, no demons-as-protagonists, no Catholic mysticism, nothing that would get them yelled at by the local pastor whose congregation made up half their customer base.
The Exorcist could not be sold at the Christian bookstore. The Exorcist therefore is not Christian media, in the operative sense, regardless of who wrote the source novel. The classification is not about the work. It's about the channel.
(This is exactly the same dynamic as why "exploitation film" doesn't mean what you'd think etymologically — it means a film that played the grindhouse circuit, regardless of its content, which is why you have like Bergman-tier art films that are technically exploitation because of where they distributed and Roger Corman pictures that technically aren't. The category is the venue.)
So the OP's exploitation-film comparison is even sharper than they're making it. Both categories are defined entirely by their distribution infrastructure. Both have a reputation for being mostly low-quality because the channel had specific economic logic — high volume, low budgets, audience that would buy product because they wanted the genre signal itself and not because the work was good. The rare prestige outlier is held to have transcended the genre, which is another way of saying the genre is defined by the channel and not by the content.
VeggieTales is the cleanest case. Phil Vischer was specifically trying to make something that could be sold at the Christian bookstore and be actually good, which created the famous tension that bankrupted Big Idea — the production values got high enough (they tried Jonah in 2002, it underperformed) that the unit economics of CBA-channel distribution couldn't support them anymore. Big Idea collapsed in 2003 and got bought by Classic Media for $19M, then DreamWorks Animation in 2012, then NBCUniversal/Comcast in 2016. Vischer had built the thing for the bookstore. The bookstore couldn't carry the thing he'd built.
Anyway, here's the thing. The bookstore collapse happened during the same five-year window — 2013 to 2019 — as the Christian media industry was also trying to figure out what it was supposed to be in the streaming era. So you get this very specific period of institutional thrashing where the old infrastructure dies faster than the new infrastructure can replace it.
What replaces it is interesting and not what you'd guess.
Two things, mostly. First, the major studios figure out there's enough money in the niche to keep an in-house faith-based shingle. Sony has Affirm Films, set up in 2007, which has put out Heaven Is for Real, Risen, Miracles from Heaven, War Room. Lionsgate has its partnership with Kingdom Story Company (the Erwin brothers' outfit, the I Can Only Imagine / Jesus Revolution people). These are Hollywood divisions that figured out a $5-15M faith-targeted picture with church-group buyouts and a built-in audience is one of the most reliable ROI structures in the post-streaming theatrical economy.
Second thing, and this is the one I find most interesting from the institutional angle. Angel Studios. The Chosen, Sound of Freedom, His Only Son, Cabrini.
Angel Studios is the rebranded VidAngel.
VidAngel was a Utah company (the Harmon brothers, four of them, Mormon) that started in 2013 as a content-filtering service. You bought a DVD through their system, they applied filters you selected (no profanity, no nudity), they streamed you the filtered version for a dollar. The family-friendly market wants Hollywood content but with the Hollywood parts taken out, and there's real consumer demand for this but no legal way to provide it without studio cooperation, which the studios will not give because their directors hate it. CleanFlicks tried this in the early 2000s with physically re-edited DVDs and got sued out of existence by the DGA in 2006. VidAngel was the digital descendant.
In 2016 four major studios (Disney, Warner, Fox, Lucasfilm) sued VidAngel for DMCA violation, VidAngel claimed protection under the Family Movie Act, the courts disagreed, VidAngel went into Chapter 11 in 2017, settled in 2020 for $9.9M (down from a $62M judgment), and emerged having pivoted out of filtering and into production and distribution. Angel Studios is a Christian media company because the original Christian media company they'd been trying to build — a filtering layer over secular content — got destroyed by the secular content owners.
So they had to make their own content. They fund it through equity crowdfunding — the Angel Guild, retail investors who buy in for a few hundred bucks at a time, the same Reg CF / Reg A+ structure used for startup biotechs that can't raise from VCs. The Chosen's first season was the largest crowdfunded film project in history when it raised $10M+ in 2018. Sound of Freedom's P&A budget — $5M in two weeks from seven thousand investors, paid back at 120% within three months because the picture grossed $250M worldwide.
This is structurally a different industry from the CBA-bookstore model. The bookstore was B2C retail with gatekeeping done by store buyers. The Angel model is direct-to-investor crowdfunding with gatekeeping done by Guild members voting on trailers. Same audience. Different infrastructure.
And once the channel changes, the content that fits the channel changes, because the gatekeeping function moves. The old gatekeeping was "will this offend the suburban evangelical mom shopping at Family Christian on a Saturday?" The new gatekeeping is "will the Angel Guild approve a trailer?" These are not the same filter.
Cabrini, Angel's 2024 picture about the Italian Catholic missionary saint Frances Cabrini, would not have cleared Family Christian. It's a Catholic hagiography. The Catholic stuff is on the screen. The Angel Guild approved it on the trailer because the trailer showed nuns running orphanages in tenements, and that reads as "moral content" to the new gatekeepers in a way that didn't matter to the old ones, who would have been hung up on the Catholicism. (Bonhoeffer, 2024, Lutheran. His Only Son, weirdly grim Old Testament theology that would have made evangelical bookstore buyers nervous in like 1995.) The post-bookstore Christian media industry can be substantially more ecumenical than the bookstore-era one could, because the bottleneck is in a different place.
Which loops back around to The Exorcist.
Friedkin's film could not have cleared the CBA channel in 1973 and cannot clear it in 2025 (which is mostly defunct anyway). But it could probably clear an Angel Guild vote, if it were being pitched today as a debut, because a Catholic horror film in which the priests win is exactly the kind of thing a contemporary investor base of religious retail-investors would actually want made, and they would not be screened by a midwestern bookstore buyer anxious about complaints from her pastor.
What's changing isn't the theology of the audience or its willingness to watch difficult content. The audience for The Passion of the Christ in 2004 is basically the same audience that watches Angel Studios pictures in 2024. What's changing is which institutions sit between the audience and the work, and what those institutions are trying to optimize for. The bookstore was trying not to lose customers. The studio shingle is hitting a quarterly box-office target. The crowdfunding platform is maximizing Guild member engagement and reinvestment.
These optimize for different things. They produce different content.
Same as it ever was, sort of. The Protestants pick a vernacular, the vernacular wins, and a generation later you can't tell where the religion ended and the entertainment industry began.
See, I knew all of this already, but I’m glad you brought it up! I think a lot of people don’t know about Christian bookstores and their influence in Evangelical spaces! Particularly how the distribution model shaped the ways Evangelicals interacted with their pop culture and how they were able to bypass the secular culture entirely. It’s so obvious to me that I don’t think to lay it out, but I think it’s a vital part of the story.
I have one more question about this topic: why is it only Evangelicals who put their art in a self-imposed ghetto like this?
You mention Feature Films for Families, but I can think of plenty of Mormon authors whose faith influences their work who write for and are popular among mainstream audiences - Orson Scott Card, Stephanie Meyer, Brandon Sanderson - in a way I can't with Evangelicals. Likewise, there's plenty of Catholic-influenced stuff for mainstream audiences, like the Outlander series you mentioned and The Exorcist (as I said at the start). So why did Evangelicals not go down that path?
This circles back to the cultural question, and the short answer is that Evangelicals took pride in Having Alternatives. In being in the world but not of the world, and taking that to all possible extremes. They didn’t want their children listening to secular music or watching secular kids’ entertainment, so they came up with alternatives that centered Evangelical Christian identity as a badge of honor. It’s a cultural value (or it was; this has lessened slightly as I’ve aged) to be exclusively invested in Christian media - you weren’t worldly, you were sufficiently guarding your heart against garbage-in garbage-out media that would pollute you with secular ideals, and you were defending your family against that contagion. They actively wanted to be in a ghetto - they built it on purpose. This was also enforced by publishing houses like Zondervan and Christian radio stations like KLOVE and their sister channel Air1, where rules about what kinds of songs could be played or what kinds of books could be published meant that everything was first and foremost about signposting Evangelical identity and second about being good quality. They don’t want to be secularized, or appeal to secular audiences if that means they have to compromise on how aggressively Christian they are.
Authors like Diana Gabaldon or JRR Tolkien or Meyer and Card and Sanderson are/were primarily writing fiction for the masses that were informed by their personal values; Evangelical publishing houses and Evangelical audiences like the ones I grew up around would be actively offended by this. It’s not actually Christian unless it’s signposting vocally, and if you’re an Evangelical author writing fiction you Should be writing for the Christian market only. Don’t hide your light under a bushel, let it shine. Don’t make secular music, make Christian music. Don’t write anything that’s not didactic and religiously sound, make religious fiction. I knew a lot of people who thought that Tolkien wasn’t as good of a Christian as C.S. Lewis because he didn’t write allegorical fantasy. People didn’t want to be part of the broader culture, they wanted to be proudly isolated so they could feel securely Apart From The World. They also loudly and frequently self-deluded themselves into believing that the religious nature of the work meant that it was of better quality than secular works, that the art was inherently better and excellently written or acted and the only reason secular people couldn’t see that was anti-Christian biases. It feeds into this idea (that was a core part of my own religious-based ideological abuse) that you could be contaminated out of your faith, or you could think yourself out of your faith, if you were too smart or too exposed to worldly media at an early age.
I have something potentially interesting to add.
I was raised catholic, born in Poland, so the majority of people born here are raised catholic.
I have noticed a shift in religious media and religious approach to media happening in the last years.
When my parents were young being catholic was a kind of rebellion against the goverment, because the soviet regime didn't like the church. So even the rebellious teenagers declared themselves as catholic, more culturally than anything, they weren't very strict about their religious practice. However, after Poland got its independence the church started playing a big role in politics. Some of that was a sort of "f you" to the regime, and some of that was the church claiming they helped overthrow the soviets, a lot of credit was given to John Paul II (and there is definetly some truth in that, don't get me wrong). Over the years the church tied itself very closely to the right wing parties (especially PIS, law and order party). And along with that, the approach to media started looking a bit more "protestant". I have a very religious family and I have noticed that those who are religious and support PIS are definetly more strict with the art they like, to the point were media has to affirm their beliefs or it's bad. The politicians also started to talk about art a lot these last few years, there are a lot of discussions about what books kids should read at school, even propositions of throwing some absolute classics out of the curriculum because they're not religious or patriotic enough. Last year they suddenly got interested in painting and bashed the winner of one of the biggest painting competitions basically for being trans and making art they consider "degenerate" (and yeah, I am aware how ironic it is to say stuff like that in POLAND of all places, knowing history does not make my life easier these days)
Sorry for the long backstory. But my point is, I feel like there is some link between religious organizations getting into politics and this type of puritanical view of art. I don't know too much about this topic, but if anyone is more educated I would love to learn because it's something that has been bothering me for a long time.
I actually think you’re right on the money here. The explosion of the Evangelical bubble in the US went hand in hand with Reagan [Kill Bill sirens] becoming president and especially his second term from 1988-1992, when basically the entire country voted for him. Movies and music and books from his second term for the secular market are already conservative in ways that are of academic significance, but this is also when direct to video Christian short films and feature films became a phenomenon (and when Christian rock and metal started out as a genre, see Stryper and Warriors of the Son). Reagan’s presidency also marked one of the first times that Evangelicals became politically active - prior to that point most (white) churches were gunshy about being political, but the “Moral Majority” movement changed a lot of those things. I’m actually really interested to learn that similar things happened in Poland! I don’t know a lot about the situation there and it’s really neat (and disappointing in a way) that some of the same social movement things happened there under Catholicism. Thank you for bringing it up!