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@that70sburkhyde
“that’s me backing off.”
SWAG
That’s definitely one way to get people’s attention 🤣
Season 2, Episode 16: The First Time
SEASON FIVE SUPREMACY
*swoon*
more background zennie
My favourite brand of post-S8 fanfics I’ve read are ones where Jackie comes to the realization that these people are not her friends so she leaves town and all of them behind to be a successful career woman whatever she chooses. She has her own apartment and if she finds love, it’s with somebody who isn’t afraid to tell her or commit to her.
It’s only in her absence and with the return of Eric that the gang recognizes what horrible people they’ve been the past six months. If they want to have a relationship with Jackie again, they have to WORK for it.
Eric also has an exasperated field day, as the leader of the gang. Like, "I've been gone for six months, and this is what happens without me at the helm? This is more than just shenanigans. It's a disaster, and now I have to pick it all up!"
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I did anticipate your, "Ew!" on the last question. 🤭
New question!
Would you rather go to Canada with the guys in their beer run (and share their experience), or would you rather go to Kelso's uncle's Ice Shack with everyone (but Hyde since he wasn't invited)?
A good question that really made me think. In the end I gotta go with Ice Shack, never been ice fishing but also never been to Canada lol BUT I don’t think I would’ve been much help to the guys when they got in trouble with the Mounties. Wouldn’t be much help to Kelso either in Ice Shack situation but that’s okay lol
Thanks for the question!!
Nobody asked me, but Canada, because my main man was there (and one of my absolute fave eps)
Early S1 Hyde-characterization that remained consistent for seven seasons 😂
my favourite familial relationship in the show
1998. Family Ties.
James walks into the living room, from the kitchen. Hyde is on the couch, watching South Park.
James: Dad, what's the difference between white collar crime and blue collar crime? Mom didn't give me a good answer...
Flashback, at the kitchen table. Jackie is doing her nails, and is reading Vogue.
Jackie: Jamie, white collar crime is rich people crimes. Like, my dad was in prison for rich people crimes. Embezzlement, bribery, whatever. And blue collar crime is poor people crimes. Like once, your Dad got arrested for possession.
James: Of what?
Jackie: Of my heart.
Back to the living room.
James: But isn't Pops rich?
Hyde: That was before I found my rich dad. Blue collar's at my core. Blue collars fight against the white collars. The people fight against the system, against the man.
James: But Pops is rich, and he doesn't like the man.
Hyde: He's the exception to the rule.
James sits down on the couch, next to Hyde.
James: I'm still kinda confused.
Hyde: That's the world we live in, son.
James ponders, still confused.
How do you think Hyde would react if Donna tried to set Jackie up with another guy during one of the breakups in season five or season? Also, because season eight was totally out of character, if Hyde/Jackie had another bad breakup, whose side do you think she’d pick (or would she even pick a side)?
I don't think Donna would set Jackie up with another guy during Jackie and Hyde's "time out" at the end of season 5 to the beginning of season 6. Jackie states she loves herself the most and picks herself. She needs time not being in a relationship, a major evolution for her character, one Donna encouraged in season 3.
In season 7, Donna also wouldn't because she's totally team Hyde and Jackie. She wants them to reconcile because she knows that Hyde and Jackie are good for each other and make each other happy.
Jackie also wouldn't have a rebound fling in S7 because she's in love with Hyde and wants him to commit to her fully, to have a life with him (which S5 and S6 make clear he wants, too, but S7 was originally the last season -- so retconning and rehashing and OOC-ness happened to create tension leading to the happy release of the original series finale).
In-character Donna would be supportive of Jackie during the events of S8. My fanfic Made Bare takes the OOC text of S8 and gives it in-character subtext and development.
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Jackie always has to get up earlier to leave for work and let’s Hyde sleep in. She figures he never got enough good sleep in his upbringing and she loves to spoil him. But she makes sure to kiss his cheek and leave a lipstick mark there before she leaves. Hyde always sees it in the bathroom mirror when he shaves and gives one of his rare genuine smiles. He doesn’t even pretend to be annoyed by it because no one else will ever see it. It’s proof that somebody loves him. If he ever looks at the mirror and sees his cheek is bare/no kiss mark, he knows Jackie is really pissed at him.
Have you done an explanation as to why you think Hyde/Jackie work better and make more sense than Hyde/Donna and Jackie/Kelso?
Hi!
I think it's self-explanatory by watching the show, but I'll give a short answer.
Donna has no romantic feelings for Hyde; even if she did, the defense mechanisms they developed to deal with their childhood wounding aren't compatible in a romantic relationship. They don't lend themselves to proper communication but explosiveness and withdrawal.
Jackie and Kelso bring out the worst in each other. Their relationship is toxic.
Jackie and Hyde challenge and inspire each other to grow and change. Their defense mechanics are part of that positive challenging and lead to communication and healing. They bring out the best in each other.
—Season 5, Episode 8 Thank You EVERY THAT ‘70S SHOW CIRCLE 75/130
When Jackie’s mom came back what conversation do you think Jackie had with her? Or do you think Pam kinda pretended nothing ever happened? Do you think Jackie ever vented to Hyde about it or kept it to her self? I mean that’s gotta be pretty hard your mom disappearing then never even acknowledge she left. Plus everyone around Jackie kinda acting like nothing happened and Pam was just on a long trip was weird.
Pam's return wasn't handled very well in my opinion. The fact that the main focus was on how her presence basically drove every male character to act like a horny idiot for laughs, instead of her relationship with Jackie made the whole thing seem very shallow in terms of writing.
When Pam shows up in episode 6x15, she claims she came back to Point Place because she "missed" Jackie. She spends the entire scene nonchalantly dismissing Jackie's completely valid anger, preening over the attention she's getting, and making jokes about her "vacation" in Mexico.
When Jackie storms off, Pam makes no effort to follow her, and has a very "oh she'll get over it" sort of vibe. The show demonstrates the two of them trying to talk several times, but Pam's attitude comes across multiple times as "well, you have to forgive me, because I'm your mother and I love you". So I don't think it's necessarily her pretending nothing happened, but more so her just expecting Jackie to get over it.
Pam is likely a narcissist, and while this doesn't necessarily prevent her from loving her daughter (in her own self-absorbed way), she only seems to care about her own feelings in terms of their relationship. I don't remember if, in any of their scenes, Pam actually asked Jackie about what she went through or how she feels about having been abandoned. To do that would be to admit wrongdoing, take accountability, and show remorse. Pam is incapable of doing any of those things in my opinion.
I don't think whatever conversation(s) happened off-screen between them were much different from what we got on screen. I think Pam deflected a lot of the blame (likely towards Jack, since he's not around to defend himself and is the perfect scapegoat), and continued to insist that Jackie owes her forgiveness for the simple fact that Pam is her mother.
When Jackie runs off in 6x15, Hyde follows her and remarks about how he'll "see [his friends] tomorrow". I'm not a big fan of his tone and how the line is delivered since it can be interpreted in different ways. It could be that he's frustrated that his girlfriend is upset, but it also leaves an impression that going to comfort her is a chore he has to do. I don't think the latter sentiment is IC, just like I don't think Hyde joining the pack of idiots drooling over Pam is IC (side note: also ooc for Red).
That said, an IC Hyde would absolutely want to be supportive and comfort Jackie about her mom. I can see Jackie venting her anger to both Hyde and Donna, though I think she'd reserve her more vulnerable feelings for Hyde. So no, I don't think she'd keep it to herself. I think she confided quite a bit in Hyde, who she trusts and can understand her situation more than most people.
She acts tough and angry about it in public, but completely losing any semblance of stability at Jackie's age (and frankly inexperience with the world considering how sheltered she was) can be devastating. It's not an understatement to say that if she didn't have Hyde and Donna in her corner to bolster the support from the adults, Jackie's life could've taken a very bad turn after her father was arrested and her mother left.
I don't necessarily think everyone else was trying to act like nothing happened. It's important to remember that this particular plot arc is set decades and decades ago in the '70s. Certain family drama was often considered "impolite" to draw attention to, and people avoiding stating "Pam abandoned her daughter" outright is to be expected. It's also not dissimilar to how the Formans' sometimes verbally tiptoed around Edna abandoning Hyde, and I'm sure was more so done out of a desire to protect Jackie's feelings.
Nowadays, we would probably just call it like it is and state that Pam was a narcissistic mother living with a substance use disorder, that neglected and abandoned her child.
Thanks for the ask! 💖