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How would propose marriage to a another also how would wedding propose worked out
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In Chapter 40 of Heta World Stars, Veneziano and Germany visit Verona and the Casa de Giulietta. When Veneziano suggests that they touch the statue to make sure they’ll get happily married, Germany says they “can’t get married anyway.” This, and how marriage is portrayed in the series through Austria-Hungary and others, lead me to believe nations normally don’t just get married on a whim. Nation marriage is primarily a political affair that’s joining two countries in a union, but sometimes romantic feelings develop later, as in the case of AusHun.
Now how does this affect Romerica? Outside of a very AU fic, they might not actually be able to get married as nations. And because of who they are as people, a political union would be the opposite of romantic to them. Romano would reasonably be worried about getting controlled in a scenario where he politically married a country that’s much more powerful than him, and America led a Revolution to be an independent country, so I can’t see him wanting to form a political union because he’s in love. But the thing is, I think they might want to get married, the way humans do. America, because he’s more idealistic, is the one more likely to propose marriage in nation verse. I think he does it as a spur of the moment thing, because he’s so in love with Romano, as I wrote in one of my fics. Or maybe he proposed shortly after the Obergefell ruling, which made same-sex marriage legal in all 50 states. He was riding high on the happiness of his people, and maybe he met an elderly couple who’ve known each other for decades like he’s known Romano, and that inspired him to propose. In nation verse, America is scared of frightening Romano off with a marriage proposal he misinterprets, so he makes it very clear he’s proposing as Alfred, not the United States of America. Romano happily accepts what America is offering, if they can get married that way. If they can’t get officially married in nation verse, they could hold some private ceremony with friends and family members, wear rings, and still act like a married couple for all intents and purposes.
In human AUs, it’s obviously a lot simpler. Either one might propose, but they would go about it differently. America is more likely to propose spontaneously and in a goofy way (in one fic, he was wearing a bedsheet and holding out a Ring Pop, which made sense in context). Romano would plan out a proposal, and he would do it in a more traditionally romantic way, with a romantic date or something that’s very special to them as a couple. Romano would have a prepared speech he’d nervously deliver, and he would make America listen to the entire speech without interrupting (although America would be interrupting to say yes, of course). America just kind of wings the speech, but it ends up being very sweet and heartfelt, if a bit more bumbling. Romano is opposed to huge public proposals on principle, because he thinks it puts pressure on the person being proposed to and doesn’t let them give an honest answer. He would be embarrassed if he was proposed to in front of an audience, especially a huge one. In one of my fics, he proposed to America at a family gathering, but took him aside and did it in another room where they could speak in private. America likes the spectacle of big public proposals, but he knows how Romano feels and doesn’t want to risk him saying no because of the way he proposed. So, if he were doing something more planned out, he’d try to make it “grand” without embarrassing Romano. And, if he had the resources, he would shoot off fireworks after Romano said yes.
If this question too weird you don't want have to answer it but how about how about Romano and America first time.
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Your question isn’t too weird, anon. I answered a question about America and Romano’s first time here.
America: I have decided that I am, in fact, a snack. People are just not hungry.
Romano, under his breath: I’m fucking starving to death.
America, whips around to look at him: What was that, Vinny?
Romano, panicking: Uh, I said maybe it’s because you have hamburger breath. Asshole!
America: Nah, I don’t think that’s it. My breath should smell like Tic-tacs most of the time. I carry them with me everywhere I go.
Romano, dying inside: ....
Belgium, about Spain: He’s got emerald green eyes and the ass of an angel.
Romano: Feli, I think you spend too much time with Germany. I don’t trust that fucking potato muncher.
Veneziano: You don’t have all the facts.
Romano: Which are?
Veneziano: I love him.
[Romano wakes up in the middle of the night because his cell phone is ringing. He groans as he opens his eyes to see who it is and answers the call.]
Romano: Why the fuck are you bothering me, burger bastard? It’s way too late to be calling people, even where you are.
America, drunk and giggly: Cause, dude, I’ve got something important to tell ya!
Romano, sighing: Fine. What is it?
America, sincerely: I like you, Little Italy. I like you so, so, so much.
Romano, smiling slightly: Really?
America: Yeah. I like you so much that every time I see you or talk to you, I get a boner.
Romano, blushing hot enough to fry an egg on his face: WHAT?!?!?!
America: Not like a penis boner, but a boner in my heart. A heart-on. An affection erection. You get what I’m saying?
Romano, flustered: NO, AND FRANKLY, I DON’T THINK I WANT TO!!!! VAFFANCULO, YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT!!!!
[Romano hangs up the phone, turns his face into his pillow, and screams.]
Canada (texted to a group chat with Cuba and the Netherlands): What the fuck were we smoking when we had a conversation about how my brother would be so proud if I fucked an orange alien?!?
North Italy: I have a black belt.
Japan (surprised and impressed): In martial arts?
North Italy: No, from Gucci.
Mexico (texted to America): When you wake up, don’t be alarmed by the passed out mariachi band, they’re cool. Muchos gracias.
America (in a human au): I told them I was gay and asked them to pass the pie. I ruined pumpkin pie for grandpa.
Romano (to some idiot who questioned his relationship with America): My bank account got hacked, so America showed up with a bottle of wine wearing a Superman cape to cheer me up. And you have the fucking nerve to question why I love him?!
(Inspired by @urmomsstuntdouble’s Jewish Lithuania headcanon. I headcanon Romano as Catholic and America as ??? on the whole religion thing, but probably vaguely Protestant. Everybody in America’s house does whatever they want during the holiday season with zero pressure to participate in rituals outside their faith, but America has taken to calling the entire month of December Chrismukkah to help both his roommates, especially Lithuania, feel included. He’s big on “family togetherness” during the holidays, regardless of what the actual holidays are, so he’s very invested in the idea of Chrismukkah.)
Lithuania (sadly): Well, guys, Chrismukkah is ruined.
America: Stop it right now! Don’t give up on the miracle that is Chrismukkah! What is happening to you?
[Lithuania and Romano are staring at America with wide eyes]
America: You’ll see. You’ll see too. You’ll all see. You’ll all see.
Romano: You’re really starting to scare the fuck out of me.
America: I’m okay with that.
[America is hosting the FACE family Christmas, and several disastrous events take place. Canada, France, and England try to leave, and America blocks them from going out the front door.]
America: Where do you think you're going? Nobody’s leaving. Nobody’s walking out on this fun, old-fashioned family Christmas! No, no. We’re all in this together! This is a full-blown, four-alarm holiday emergency here. We're gonna press on, and we're gonna have the hap, hap, happiest Christmas since Bing Crosby tap-danced with Danny Fucking Kaye. And when Finland squeezes his way down that chimney tonight, he's gonna find the jolliest bunch of assholes this side of the nuthouse.
England: You’re barmy.
America: Don’t piss me off, Art.
Canada: America? It’s over.
America: Not according to Santa’s watch it isn’t.
France: Now, come on, son—
America: Stay out of this, Papa.
Canada: Alfred, I think it’s best if everyone just goes home. Before things get worse.
America: Worse?! How could they get any worse? Take a look around you, Mattie, we’re at the threshold of hell!
Idk how other people hc America’s view on religion so this could just be me and my tendency to project on to the character but I personally view America as an agnostic and/or atheist. I know historically America’s British colonies where he was raised had a large religious following to the fact that Massachusetts was basically just a Puritan (? Might have wrong one idk I’m a heathen lmao) colony. Though I personally believe that with lack of England’s parenting skills and the fact that america was left alone for the majority of time (Salutary Neglect *cough*) as well as most likely being accused of witchcraft during the Witch Trials America might not have grown up with such a religious background made him quite indifferent (or uncomfortable) towards the subject.
But than it could also be argued that he in fact would fall into the religious category not only due to British establishment but also both Enlightenment Ages and influence of other cultures and religions would also influence America’s views.
Though this really depends on how much you view the “people influence the nation and their ideals aspect”. Personally I kind of view them as regular people who got cursed with immortality who have their own lives and views separate from the government and by extent some of their people (of course they will be influenced by culture and what not).
America personally feels like the type of person to think “there are so many options as views that it’s impossible for me to say that one is correct over the other so I’ll just sit back and be respectful of your beliefs” but might have the tendency to say a quick prayer or what not, or in times of paranoia or fear (such as the red scare) be pushed more into a believers mind set.
All in all I think Americans views on religion as a whole are kinda “meh so what you want as long as it doesn’t seek to harm others” but his views on G*d specifically are fluid and always fluctuating.
A few additional thoughts I had:
1. Colonial America was very religiously diverse. Link with more info here. I think all of this religious diversity, especially the system of colonies with different official churches, would have given America a confused sense of his religious identity. In canon, when England was drunk, he got confused over whether he was Catholic or Protestant due to the way the Church of England broke away from the Catholic Church. Imagine how confused young America, with multiple official churches, would have been! As a colony, America might view himself as broadly Christian, but not be sure which particular denomination of Christianity he wants to affiliate himself with.
2. In addition to being potentially accused of being a witch himself during the Salem Witchcraft Trials, America would have been very afraid for England, even if he was absent at that time. England practices magic in canon, so he would be at even higher risk than America for being executed by humans for witchcraft. Female America would be at higher risk of being accused, since most of those accused of witchcraft were women or girls.
3. Deist thought and the rationalism of the Enlightenment influenced the Revolution and America’s founding. This could have influenced America himself.
4. I agree that nations do have room to be individuals, especially in regards to things as personal as religious belief, but they are certainly influenced by their people.
5. America makes a big deal out of celebrating Christmas in canon, so it wouldn’t make much sense for him to be an adherent of a non-Christian religion. But his Christmas celebrations seem pretty secular, which isn’t inconsistent with him being an agnostic/atheist with a Christian cultural background.
6. America has archaeology as a canon hobby. It’s very reasonable to assume, based on his character and American contributions to space flight, that he’d be into space exploration. He couldn’t adhere to any religious beliefs that deny current scientific knowledge of things like evolution and the age of the universe. Even if he’s religious, America is not a Biblical literalist or a Creationist of any kind.
France, distressed: Men are so handsome.
France, even more distressed: Women are so beautiful.
France, melodramatically holding his head in his hands: WHY IS EVERYONE SO HOT???
Germany, not glancing up from his paperwork: Global warming.
Concept: Romerica deciding to matchmake SpUK, spending lots of time working together as a result, mutually pining for each other even as they’re trying to set up their former guardians...
I think this idea has strong comedic potential. America would probably come up with hare-brained, over-the-top schemes that would work in a romantic comedy but not real life. Romano would probably have better ideas, but there’s a decent chance Spain and/or England could still figure out what Romano and America are up to while they’re scheming or while they’re spying on SpUK when they’re out on a date. As their plans began to succeed, America and Romano might both get sad they won’t have a reason to hang out as much anymore, which could lead to a feelings realization. It would be extra funny if SpUK were actually together the entire time but had been keeping their relationship secret for whatever reason, so all of Romano and America’s efforts were actually pointless.
I’m not sure how, but at the end of the story, perhaps SpUK could turn the tables on Romerica. America and Romano both get led to a clearly romantic set up (like a candlelight dinner), and there is a notecard saying something like “You’re Welcome. Love, Spain and England.” Then Romerica talk, get together, and the story ends.
I need to have a better grasp of the SpUK dynamic and Spain and England’s characters before I could begin to attempt writing this, but the idea is circling in my brain. Romerica and SpUK, match making, and mutual pining idiocy. Thank you for your time.