The Peregrina

Renee. 30. I majored in a few dead languages in college (Koine Greek/Ancient Hebrew). I like gymnastics & that's mostly what I blog.

[aliyamustafinaupdates]

[viktoriakomova]

I am once again begging literally everyone involved in gymnastics media to understand that the rules apply to everyone who is not simone and will be in the sport long after she’s gone

[viktoriakomova]

“Why is spotting allowed on bars but not vault” well for starters the most dumpy low-amplitude pathetic looking same-bar release is still like 10 feet off the ground [mat], and pretty much only Simone’s sky-high YDP fits that description on WAG vault!

[viktoriakomova]

If simone had to run a cost-benefit analysis of her having a coach to spot her or not, that tells you that there’s cause for the cost!

if anybody could chuck the hardest vault they’re physically capable of, regardless of how it looks, without taking a spotter deduction into account in terms of scoring potential, then yeah everyone would do that !!!

simone is a once-in-several-generations talent, she can do crazy difficulty executed well. the code is not written just for the gymnasts of the top 6 teams in the world. if it is established officially that there’s no difference between having a spotter on a vault that might end with you landing on your neck otherwise, and doing that vault with the full risk of that happening, then yeah people are going to try the produnova 2 electric boogaloo approach! people WILL chuck difficulty they can’t safely do on their own! because if they put it to their feet before falling they get the D score and can eat the spotter deduction, and if they need their coach to save them from quadriplegia then their risk for it all is seriously undercut.

[mo-salto]

Alice D'Amato won the 2023 Italian National Championships with an AA score of 57.2

[mo-salto]

I love Kieryn Finnell's limbo/Frankenstein save

[jennasaykwah]

Oh great. Melanie decides to hit for once at the *checks notes* US classic in which her scores do not even count

[mustafinaandhergirls]

Vladislava Urazova's floor at the Belarus Open | November 2022.

[the-peregrina]

I am almost certain that I am going to forget to watch worlds this year.

[freifraufischer]

A friend of mine once told me that in heaven the Americans are on vault, the Chinese are on bars, the Romanians are on beam, and the Russians are on floor.  And in hell the Chinese are on vault, the Romanians are on bars, the Russians are on beam and the Americans are on floor. 

I like that this maintains the proper rotation order so heaven and hell are the same competition.

[viktoriakomova]

i know ive whined about this before but since people are talking about vault start values for GB and brazil and italy and how important they are for the team score now that TF is wide open, its on my mind again:

its fucking ridiculous that vault is scored the way it is, both in terms of d score and the e score

D score issues:

the original open-ended code in 2006 had 10 skills counting for the other 3 events' difficulty scores, and when they brought it down to 8 for 2009-12 the vault SV were never adjusted

they were reduced by 0.4-0.5 after they god rid of the dismount CR on the other events after 2016

but the original ratings relative to expected/average difficulty of entire routines on the other 3 events was never addressed

its an INJUSTICE ! knock them all down by 2 or 3 tenths AGAIN.

E score issues:

it is plainly ridiculous that the same general execution faults on the other 3 events apply at the same value to vault

why is falling on a beam dismount, after an entire 80-90 second routine of 7+ skills, the same deduction as falling on your ass on a vault? or even a low chest or big step on landing, for that matter?

vault is more than just landings, yes i agree, but the landing is literally half of it at least lmao. im too lazy to do the exact breakdown of maximum possible pre-flight and block deductions vs max possible post flight and landing deductions, but i can guarantee that the latter carries much much more weight. especially getting into how pre-flight deductions are very rarely taken at the level they deserve to be for people doing very difficult vaults. (thats not even necessarily the fault of the code i think its mostly just human psychology tbh and the fact that judges arent allowed slo-mo replay video in real time while theyre judging. because if you see a shitty paseka starfish entry in real time and then the post flight is even worse then ur brain is going to hone in on all the faults of the latter and not hammer the former) (especially bad considering that the pre-flight being egregiously bad and the post-flight being super clean, or vice versa, is crazy unlikely)

and my last point, related to the one above, i have to consult the CoP for this [i wont bc this is just a tumblr post im making off the cuff lol] but isnt there a maximum E score deduction you can take on vaults with no major pre-flight deductions (such as a 1 hand block à la skinner) ? if there is then that needs to go away because for all the reasons above that is mathematically fucking stupid

i rest my off-the-cuff case but my bottom line is:

WHYYYY, in a TF that is shaping up to be SO closely contested (in a battle of mediocrity), is this a battle of vault start values? this isnt NCAA where a FTY is a 9.950 and its a question of quarter tenths. and this isnt the former 10.0 elite code where every event was capped at 10 for some semblance of parity.

why, at the end of the day, is vault difficulty STILLLL the difference maker? why has it been literally 16 years since we switched to the open ended system, and 13 years since it went from 10 skills to 8, and we haven't fixed this yet?

and we dont even have stupidly high bars scores to match it like there were in 2007 and 2008 lmao

[bastardbvby]

what movie do y’all know front to back like it doesn’t even have to necessarily be Good,, it’s just something you’ve seen so many times that the dialogue is printed into the very core of your being

[gymfanconfessions]

“YOU GUYS I FOUND THE PLAYGROUND THAT TIM IS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT”

[gymfanconfessions]

“I wonder if this what Deanna meant when she said “if only you knew what’s going on” then all the gymternet jumped down her throat attacking. Perfect example of the gymternet over reacting before knowing all the details.”

[the-peregrina]

We still don’t know what’s going on.

[the-peregrina]

Remembering Dianne Durham, the first Black all-around U.S. national champion

Dianne Durham was born in 1968 in Gary, Indiana. She started gymnastics at the age of 4 and had a natural talent for the sport. In 1981, she won the junior all-around title, afterwards moving to Texas to train with Bela and Marta Karolyi as their first U.S. elite. She won the junior all-around title again in 1982. She turned senior in 1983 and tied Kathy Johnson for the all-around title at her first international competition. That year she became the first Black U.S. national champion, winning the vault, uneven bars, and floor titles as well. She was not able to compete in the 1983 world championships due to injury, but she kept training to try to make the 1984 Olympic team. Though she was in position to succeed, she unfortunately injured her ankle on vault during the trials and withdrew from the competition. USA Gymnastics did not allow her to petition onto the Olympic team because she had not competed at the previous world championships, a rule she was unaware of when she withdrew. She retired soon after and started a coaching career, owning her own gym in Chicago for 17 years and judging competitions at the national level. She passed away February 4th, 2021 at the age of 52, but her legacy lives on.

[kylarossisaboss]

you know nastia is taking notes on these florida leos

[the-peregrina]

So I’m going to be in LA when UCLA has one of their home meets. Would it be crazy to buy tickets right now? What are the chances the meet is not actually going to happen? What would you all do?

[the-peregrina]

Home — Brown Girls Do Gymnastics

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I was thinking about how great it would be for Black gymnasts to have the option of competing at an HCBU - and found this organization which is working to do just that! Learn about their mission and donate here.

[the-peregrina]

Oops, it won’t let me edit it, but obviously I meant **HBCU

[the-peregrina]

Home — Brown Girls Do Gymnastics

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I was thinking about how great it would be for Black gymnasts to have the option of competing at an HCBU - and found this organization which is working to do just that! Learn about their mission and donate here.