The Prairie Collective

[the-prairie-collective]

Leaving this account!

i will be back on instagram sometime

[the-prairie-collective]

From @kipandkandicore

Do endos like this even hear what they post?

Literally this is making us, an endogenic plurality, anti endo.

This is like saying “why can’t I just claim to have a disorder I don’t have? Why can’t I claim to have survived something I didn’t? Why can’t I claim to have undergone a medical process I didn’t?”

Do you people not value truth and information at all?

[curiousitycollective]

@kipandkandicore is a traumagenic system not an endogenic one. We are also a traumagenic system that agrees with them on the issue of who gets to use what language. System origin does not equal discourse stances.

Whether you agree with us or not has nothing to do with our origins and frankly as a traumagenic system we'd argue that the constant "if they disagree they're automatically endogenic" that keeps happening is much more harmful to the community at large then any sharing of terms.

-Scarlet

[kipandkandicore]

thank you so much for this 😭

here is the entire post for anyone who is interested in the context, which adds a lot to what we were trying to say!

https://kipandkandicore.tumblr.com/post/686438179045277696/okay-so-theres-a-few-things-wed-like-to-say-here

okay so there’s a few things we’d like to say here (just chiming in since it was reblogged from us) first of all, neither faye nor moxie sai

[the-prairie-collective]

We never claimed you were an endo

That’s why you should stop speaking for endos like us

Go away ableist

[the-prairie-collective]

From @kipandkandicore

Do endos like this even hear what they post?

Literally this is making us, an endogenic plurality, anti endo.

This is like saying “why can’t I just claim to have a disorder I don’t have? Why can’t I claim to have survived something I didn’t? Why can’t I claim to have undergone a medical process I didn’t?”

Do you people not value truth and information at all?

[the-prairie-collective]

🌻 Terms For Endos🌻

Fellow endos, I support you. But we must remember that, since we (most of us) are not medical, we should not use medical terms. That could cause confusion- say, you tell a doctor you are a system. They misinterpret that as you saying you have DID/OSDD/UDD and set you up with a therapist dedicated to those conditions. This would be not only be now what you need, but also taking away from DID/OSDD/UDD patients. So we've made a list of terms that don't have medical connotations that endos should use more! We also added alternative words for "Tulpa" because that is sometimes considered cultural appropriation. System -> collective, plural, community Alter -> headmate, mindmate, headfriend, member Fronting -> in control, in front Switching -> changing, transferring consciousness Inner World -> headspace Tulpa -> Thoughtform, mindform, mental creation

You aren't 'invalid' if you don't use these terms but we highly recommend doing so!

[alter-natively-us]

Generally we are anti endo, but I respect you trying to help separate

However, the terms: headmate, in front, and headspace, are used in the OSDDID community.

The term we've seen endos use instead of innerworld/headspace is wonderland.

[the-prairie-collective]

Hm, I’ve always thought headmate was a term all plural people could use, since it’s not medical in any way? To me it just sounds like a friendly presence in your head. Do you have a suggestion for better terms for alter/headmate?

[astronomicalkins]

i’ve personally heard of the galactic cluster terms being used, which i like. i think id personally feel a lot more comfortable with non-traumagenics if they didn’t use OSDDID terms and try to invade OSDDID spaces.

[the-prairie-collective]

Oooh those terms are so pretty :0

Still, I don’t think headspace and headmates are just OSDDID terms? Unlike alter and system, because those are medical and they aren’t?

Still, might start using the galaxy terms because those are just so cool.

Thank you for your input!

[theconstellarium]

It's good to try & create separate terms; but ultimately, every new term the non-traumagenic community creates will then be co-opted by anti-endos who will then turn around & say it is a strictly OSDDID term.

People like this will take every single thing you make, every inch of ground you give, until you have nothing left.

System isn't a strictly medical term. Headmate is ABSOLUTELY not a medical term. Many of these aren't medical. Don't buy into their misinformation, because that's exactly what it is. They chase non-traumagenics out of every single space they create because anti-endos would rather non-traumagenic systems didn't exist at all.

This isn't dramatic or an exaggeration; this is truth evidenced by watching the anti-endo community's antics for over a year now, and we are NOT fooled by them.

(Source - many of these terms were coined by NON-TRAUMAGENIC SYSTEMS and are now claimed to be strictly medical by anti-endos. This info is easy to find if you're interested. I have neither the time nor the energy right now to hunt down links.)

[theoliviaset]

It makes me want to cry when I see people trying to claim terms as exclusively medical ones. Hell the only 2 we know of as strictly medical are "alter" and "introject". I find it really disheartening because, as glitterxgraphite stated, anti-endos steal terms then try to tell endogenics that they can't use them.

-Faye

And what really gets Fox and my blood boiling (on an entirely personal level) about it is that we, a trauma formed DID/OSDD-1 system, do not want to use medical terms to describe our plurality. To us, calling any of our headmates "alters" prompts the same reaction as calling us a slur; it's worse than being misgendered.

There are a lot of reasons for this, but the biggest is that it puts this wedge between us and systems out there just like us. "Oh endogenic systems shouldn't use these terms cause they don't experience the same thing." Bitch they sure fucking do have the same experiences. We've heard accounts from non-medical systems that line up perfectly with our experiences of plurality. We got so much help from the tulpa community in understanding our own trauma formed system because they had experienced that lined up with our own.

And further, do these people think these words are magical True Names or some shit? "You cant use 'front' cause its medical." Uh, you do realize the extreme ease with which our language spits out a word to differentiate from "the voice in the back of your head" right? Headmates is another good one in its simplicity "roommate, but like for your head".

-Moxie

[the-prairie-collective]

To @theoliviaset and all the endos fighting against this post, you cannot say that traumagenics and endogenics have the exact same experiences. They do not, or else how would they have different system origins? That’s speaking out over pluralities like us that are trying to let people know that we are not the same thing as traumagenic systems. Besides, what the important part is, is the treatment. Medical systems need different treatment then non-medical pluralities- that is scientific fact.

And I never said OSDDID systems*have* to use only medical terms. You are free to use any terms you want. But endos *should not* use medical terms like alter, system, or introject. I don’t know about the term fronting, but personally, it is very easy for us to just use alternatives.

We are not trying to divide the plural community. But we cannot act like every plurality is the same, and that medical language means nothing.

[harder-on-me]

I love female fags, male dykes, trans mtftms and ftmtfs. I adore genderqueer genderfreaks who fuck gender and hug eachother. A kiss to every bi lesbian, every asexual lesbian, every mspec gay guy married to his beard who he's in love with. A smile and a nod to all the incomprehensible degenerates who are holding hands when they get pelted with rocks on the street for being visible and a menace to society. I pour one out for all the faggot dykes, femme butches, agender aromatic asexuals, high femmes and stone butches. This one goes out to the freaks of nature who queer queerness and are left to martyrdom by those who should love them, you are loved by me.

[againstmogai]

OP I don't think you know what a beard is

[the-prairie-collective]

OP does. OP is saying they think gay men who are also mspec that fall in love with women (presumably ones who are both lesbian and mspec) are really cool.

[againstmogai]

It must be nice to live in an area where using a beard to pretend you're straight isn't a matter of survival.

[the-prairie-collective]

Yeah, it must be really nice. I hope every gay man and lesbian is eventually able to be in a situation where they would be living with someone out of love not survival.

[genderkoolaid]

the thing is you will probably never know the small nuances of people's identities, online or offline. you don't know their history or their emotions that leads them to use certain labels. and they don't have to explain it to you, either. you literally cannot understand why people will ID the ways they do, and if there is no tangible harm, why get so upset over it? who was this community made for, if not the undefinable freaks of gender and sexuality?

[intersexfairy]

reminder that this blog supports all lesbians & sapphics - especially those who face exclusion from the lesbian & sapphic community.

lesbians & sapphics can be trans. they can be nonbinary. they can be intersex. they can be aspec. they can be mspec. they don't have to be women or fem aligned. they can be men or boys. they can also be vincian, straight, diamoric, etc. lesbians and sapphics can be any identity.

the diversity in lesbian and sapphic queer identity is beautiful and deserves support and cherishing. lesbians and sapphics of all kinds enrich this world. please don't let bigotry convince you of anything different.

[harder-on-me]

I love female fags, male dykes, trans mtftms and ftmtfs. I adore genderqueer genderfreaks who fuck gender and hug eachother. A kiss to every bi lesbian, every asexual lesbian, every mspec gay guy married to his beard who he's in love with. A smile and a nod to all the incomprehensible degenerates who are holding hands when they get pelted with rocks on the street for being visible and a menace to society. I pour one out for all the faggot dykes, femme butches, agender aromatic asexuals, high femmes and stone butches. This one goes out to the freaks of nature who queer queerness and are left to martyrdom by those who should love them, you are loved by me.

[againstmogai]

OP I don't think you know what a beard is

[the-prairie-collective]

OP does. OP is saying they think gay men who are also mspec that fall in love with women (presumably ones who are both lesbian and mspec) are really cool.

[the-prairie-collective]

WE AREN’T SHADOWBANNED ANYMORE LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO

[mapofthewrld]

hello would anyone like to be my platonic knight in shining armor. like lancelot style

[the-prairie-collective]

Funny… one of our headmates is named Shining Armor. So maybe he would like to ^_^

[peenalize]

at this point im against any form of non-disorder plurality. does it exist? fuckin hell if i know. but being "plural" and having did/osdd is so intrinsically linked that the two cannot be separated. there are people who will have did/osdd and not realize, thinking its just "oh im just a non-disordered plural :)" and that's fuckin dangerous. people not getting treated for their disorders is dangerous and acting like its "fine" is pushing anti-recovery rhetoric. did/osdd is an ESPECIALLY dangerous disorder to not seek therapy for. with a 70% suicide rate and intense symptoms stemming from trauma it's something that NEEDS to be diagnosed. we NEED to be helped. we NEED therapy. and no this isn't me saying we need to reach final fusion, it's me saying we need to be functional and be able to recover with our disorder.

"oh but this harms non-disordered plurals !!!" how? how does it? give me one reason how it does. and either way i would rather the DISORDERED. the DISABLED. people be safe. yes. i put the safety of disordered people who have a high suicide risk higher than the safety of a 14 year old on the internet with a non-disordered "monsengenic" system or whatever the hell yall wanna call it. so yes. we should medicalize plurality because the safety of the mentally ill people comes first. if you disagree with that, then hate to break it to you but you're ableist/sanist.

[the-prairie-collective]

How about this- we medicalize systemhood, not the entire concept of plurality?

The idea of having more than one personality or soul in one physical being exists in many aspects outside DID/OSDD. Being a system is another word for having DID/OSDD, but plurality is not.

We totally support endogenic pluralities thinking critically about whether they have had trauma, or have been in a situation where their brain could have suppressed trauma. This is not some cult that tries to trap people in it. If every endogenic plurality realized they did actually have trauma and were a system and went on to seek treatment for that, we would be happy for them. But that’s not going to happen, because some pluralities just don’t have trauma.

I wouldn’t say it’s ableist not to support endos as a whole, unless you are specifically going after pluralities who have other disorders such as autism, ocd, bpd. I think being anti-endo makes you disrespectful and inconsiderate, but not necessarily ableist.

[mothtorch]

If you’re straight you’re accepted

If you’re gay you’re accepted

If you’re ace you’re accepted 

If you’re pan you’re accepted 

If you’re lesbian you’re accepted 

If you’re butch you’re accepted 

If you’re femme you’re accepted 

If you’re female you’re accepted 

If you’re male you’re accepted 

If you’re nonbinary you’re accepted 

If you’re genderfluid you’re accepted 

If you’re cis you’re accepted 

If you’re demi you’re accepted 

If you’re mentally ill you’re accepted  

If you’re physically ill you’re accepted  

If you’re healthy you’re accepted  

If you’re Asian you’re accepted 

If you’re Slavic you’re accepted 

If you’re Hispanic you’re accepted

If you’re Caucasian you’re accepted 

If you’re African you’re accepted 

If you’re African-American you’re accepted  

If you’re human you’re accepted

[the-prairie-collective]

If you’re plural you’re accepted

If you’re a system you’re accepted

If you are a singlet you’re accepted

[the-prairie-collective]

HELP WTF

We got shadowbanned??? For no reason???

We can’t see our messages or message anyone, we can’t comment, and no one is interacting with any of our posts anymore???

Help??

@support @staff @tumblrbot @tumblrhelp

[the-prairie-collective]

Systems and pluralities of Tumblr, we have a challenge for you!

Make a map of your headspace/wonderland using emojis, then share and describe it! Singlets can participate too if they have cool mental spaces they would like to share.

We’ll go first:

🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌

🌌🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🌌

🌌🏔🌹⛲️🌺🌸🪨🌲🌲🎄🌲🏔🌌

🌌🏔🪨🪨🪨🪨🌾🌾🌲🌲🌲🏔🌌

🌌🏔🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌲🏔🌌

🌌🏔🌾🍯🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🏔🌌

🌌🏔🌾🌾🌾🌾🛖🌾🛖🌾🌾🏔🌌

🌌🏔🫧🌾🌾🌾🌾🛖🌾🌾🌾🏔🌌

🌌🏔🎋🫧🫧🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🌾🏔🌌

🌌🏔🎋🎋🎋🫧🌾🌾🫧🦦🌾🏔🌌

🌌🏔🎋🧩🎋🎋🫧🫧🌾🌾🌾🏔🌌

🌌🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🏔🌌

🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌🌌

Our wonderland/headspace is a prairie surrounded by a starry void. Around the edges of the prairie to protect people from falling off is a ring of tall snowy mountains. In the middle of the field is a group of houses where our collective’s human members live! Some notable landmarks on the plane are the flower tranquil flower garden protected by a rock wall, the bubbly creek that leads to Otter’s pond, and a beehive for our co-host Bee! On one side is a pine forest where one of the trees is always decorated festively. On the other side is a bamboo forest that holds tricks and traps and puzzles! None are dangerous, of course, just something for our most intelligent member to do when they are not in front. All in all the place is sunny and warm and full of life both from our plurality and not.

We can’t wait to see what other plurality’s look like!

[nmri]

the only reason cops are at pride now is to intimidate gay people into not making it a riot again and i will stand by that fact until the day i die

[vaguelyconcernedtriangle]

If the occasion should arise and I attend a pride festival, I would also like it to not become a riot.

[nmri]

imagine being this guy

arent they there? to stop any attacks from the anti lgbt groups?? yknow the ones that ALWAYS gather there???

[nmri]

contrary to what this newer generation of lgbt people think, cops are a new addition to prides. only within the past 10/20 years have they actually started “protecting” pride. aka standing around and intimidating the general public. historically, lgbt people have protected ourselves and eachother during pride events. from police in a lot of cases actually. ive been to pride events where the anti lgbt protesters were the ones being “protected” from the pride crowd… the cops arent there for us. theyre there to boost the image of the police force and make us think they care. the only people who feel safe around cops are the classes that they are meant to protect and people who are uneducated about police. (theres a heavy overlap as well.)  you may feel safe around cops but many people do not. theyre literally dogs to the upper class. 

2018 Baltimore pride was crashed by terfs who marched with the cops. pigs protected them.

In hamilton ontario the cops let neo nazis attack people and said they didnt help because people didnt want them there

[themintycupcake]

I was at NYC Pride a couple of years ago and a massive section of the main route was completely dedicated to cops. The sight of a prison bus driving by with rainbow flags on it made me sick. That was the year that Toronto Pride asked the police not to bring guns to pride. And so the NYPD invited them to our parade, marching through and proudly brandishing their guns. Back at the Stonewall Inn, people who were protesting the commercialization of Pride were beaten by police. I used to buy some of what the commenters above are saying about protection, but after seeing all of that Pride needs to be anti cop.

[fucktheflagandfuckyou]

they literally just showed up and arrested pride participants like a handful of days ago after being told they weren’t welcome

[hedgewitchcat]

[Image description: The image right before the above link is of the linked article. It’s a Vice News article titled, “Cops Were Banned from NYC Pride. They Showed Up With Riot Gear.” The subtitle says, “Eight people were arrested on Sunday after skirmishes between the New York Police Department and people celebrating Pride in New York City.” The article has a photo of cops harassing civilians. One cop is pulling the arm of a pride attendee while other attendees try to stop him. Another cop has cuffed someone on the ground. End ID.]

[alexseanchai]

what do y'all pro-cops-at-Pride people think the zeroth Pride, the Stonewall Riots, were about?

spoilers: it was police brutality against the queer community

[qunari]

and in any case, do y'all know who does the ACTUAL protecting against hate groups at these events? at my first pride over a decade ago, it was butches. it was trans people and bears and quite a few leather folks. it was volunteers who stood on that line and made themselves barriers between us and those that came to protest and hate us, because nobody else was going to do it, and that year the protesters outnumbered the attendees.

and as of the last pride i attended a few years ago in the same city, do you know who stood in the dead center, away entirely from protesters and violent people, openly brandishing RIFLES? it was the fucking cops.

your local butch will keep you twice as safe as a cop will, if the cops aren’t the very ones making it unsafe in the first place.

[heismybaby]

MEN CAN BE VICTIMS TOO

MEN CAN BE VICTIMS TOO

MEN CAN BE VICTIMS TOO

MEN CAN BE VICTIMS TOO

MEN CAN BE VICTIMS TOO

MEN CAN BE VICTIMS TOO

MEN CAN BE VICTIMS TOO

[yekkes]

Making fun of bi women married to men and het trans people makes you a loser btw and it's not going to get you any pussy or clout, it just makes you look like an asshole. Pride month PSA

[alphedhel]